Stupidy 101
Stupidy 101
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#0Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 10:08pm
An idiot reviewer in Entertainment Weekly called Jerry Hermans score for La Cage unmelodic & said all his scores sound alike
The sheer idiocy of some of these cretins continues to amaze me
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broadwaystar2b
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/28/04
Mythus
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/16/04
#2re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 10:19pmI can't remember the review, but I guess it was EW - they said that the Cagelle's dances were unmemorable or something similar. It totally blows my mind.
millie_dillmount
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#3re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 10:21pmEh, who cares what this person says. In the long run, it won't matter.
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VeuveClicquot
Broadway Star Joined: 11/2/04
#4re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 11:27pm
I'm 50/50 on that comment. Jerry Herman's scores are certainly melodic. He's the king of a snappy melody.
That said, his scores do kind of sound the same. I think you could probably substitute the title song from HELLO, DOLLY! with the title song from MAME, and nobody would notice the difference.
bronxboundexpress
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/15/04
#6re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 11:44pmi've heard both things, but i've never actually heard or seen La Cage
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VeuveClicquot
Broadway Star Joined: 11/2/04
#7re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 11:46pm
Bronx, I think you're wrong.
You could classify the LA CAGE score as "pedantic," and I would see your point. "Trite" I would accept. "Dull" would even be an opinion that I could acquiesce to (although not necessarily agree with). "Repetitive?" Why not?
But "Unmelodic?" Nope. Can't go there.
Updated On: 12/17/04 at 11:46 PM
#8re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/17/04 at 11:57pmI agree that his score for LA CAGE is unmelodic - I think it's terrible - but his scores hardly all sound the same. I really thought this revival was crappy, but the Cagelles were anything but forgettable.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
VeuveClicquot
Broadway Star Joined: 11/2/04
#9re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 12:08am
Apparently, those of you who are calling Jerry Herman's score for LA CAGE "unmelodic" have never seen a show composed by John Adams, Phillip Glass or Marc Blitztein.
Don't like LA CAGE? That's totally cool. But please try to find an appropriate word that effectively illustrates the reasons for your dislike. "Unmelodic" isn't it.
#10re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 12:14amJust as it's my opinion that the score is unmelodic, it's your opinion that my choice of wording is not valid. I don't see why unmelodic is inappropriate, or why I should change my choice of words to please you. You want something that illustrates my reasons for disliking it. I dislike the score because I find it UNMELODIC. You're not really one to say that "unmelodic isn't it." I'm stating my opinion - not my opinion as outlined by you. So, despite what I've just said, would you settle for BORING, LAME, TRITE, or FORGETTABLE?
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
BWayBoy88
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/23/04
#11re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 11:22amI think La Cage is very melodic, but I do have to agree with most of Herman's music sounds the same.
#12re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 11:29amDamnit, I was hoping this would turn into a bitchfest!
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#13re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 11:49am
Regarding composers sounding the same
1. Wildhorn writes Pop music ( or so they say )
2. Styne wrote big brassy #'s
3. Sondheim, for the most part , writes in the same style
Many on this board can listen to an overture or song & know who wrote it just by the style & the type of instruments highlighted by the composer.
As far as sounding the same, as long as the music is good & listenable, who cares?
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CanWeTalkBroadway?
Stand-by Joined: 12/17/04
#14re: Stupidy 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 11:55am{whispers} Psssst. Not for nothing, but when criticizing cretins, a person has more credibility when he spells the headline of his thread correctly.
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#15re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 11:59am
To Can We Talk
It must be nice to be perfect. I tried to correct the spelling & it comes out the same
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Updated On: 12/18/04 at 11:59 AM
CanWeTalkBroadway?
Stand-by Joined: 12/17/04
#16re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 12:23pmI wasn't sayin, I'm just sayin. I don't have perfect spelling at all, I was raised in the South! I just thought it looked bad and took away from your very important message that who do these people think they are with there opinions?! We should all be supportive in this business because until you have personally tried to write a score and songs you should not put down, you should support.
#17re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 12:34pmIt's obvious that writing good music isn't easy. It's also obvious that making it in the theatre business isn't easy. But by people saying they don't like a certain score, or one composer's scores sounding alike doesn't mean we're not supportive of their work and don't respect their talent.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
CanWeTalkBroadway?
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#18re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 12:37pmEspecially when they throw such awesome cast parties that we can see and be seen at!
#19re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 12:47pmwhat are you trying to say...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
CanWeTalkBroadway?
Stand-by Joined: 12/17/04
#20re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 1:01pmI am not trying to say anything. I am saying that my lover and I were at the La Cage party and it was very glamorous. Now what are you trying to say?
#21re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 1:03pmAre you saying you met me there?
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
CanWeTalkBroadway?
Stand-by Joined: 12/17/04
#22re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 1:35pmHelllllllllllllo? WHAT? Put down the mirror, and step away from the computer. I can tell from three posts that if we did meet you, we would have walked away. Quickly.
MaTakeALookAtMe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#23re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 6:13pmahhh...is the unmelodic , I met/ didn't meet you at the cast party, bitch fest starting????
#24re: Stupidity 101
Posted: 12/18/04 at 6:42pmCanWeTalkBroadway?, to answer the question from your Icon, he would shoot a porn film.
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