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#1325Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/9/16 at 5:06pm

He's disqualifying himself, damn, just when you think he'd calm down a bit.  Incredible, can't imagine the backlash this is going to have.  The worst yet, or best, too crazy.  Skeered!


Stephanatic

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#1326Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/9/16 at 7:50pm

Just when you thought he couldn't say something even more stupid...

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#1327Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/9/16 at 8:29pm

Elizabeth Warren

2 hrs · Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Donald Trump makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.

Your reckless comments sound like a two-bit dictator, Donald. Not a man who wants to lead the greatest democracy on the planet.


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Rumpelstiltskin
#1328Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/9/16 at 9:34pm

madbrian said: "Polls schmolls, here's the best news of the day: Trump has no plans to change his temperament or strategy.  . . . "

I replied to this message earlier in the day but my post seems to have been lost in cyberspace.  I wrote that there appeared to have been some impact from the weekend intervention, and that the intervention appeared to have included a lobotomy.  Trump read his speech on the economy from a teleprompter, slowly and deliberately as if sounding out each syllable.   He was unphased by hecklers and graciously thanked the audience for drowning out the jeers with cheers.  He rarely, if ever, went off script.  

I was afraid undecideds would be swayed by the act, especially since the speech spoke to all the typical Republican talking points regarding tax rates, the tax code, etc.   

Well that was a short-term pivot.  It was only about an hour after my post was lost that I read his suggestion that 2nd amendment zealots will (should?) assassinate his opponent, or at least her choices for the bench.  Anything his advisors hoped to achieve with the lobotomy was lost in a nanosecond.   

 

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#1329Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/9/16 at 9:37pm

This will provide another opportunity for other GOP candidates, particularly senators up for reelection, to bail on Trump. 


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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#1330Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/9/16 at 10:56pm

I'm genuinely shocked by those comments.  And, at this point in the campaign, after everything he's done and said that's really saying something.  This is way beyond carelessness and dirty politics.  The Secret Service should be investigating him.  Revolting.  

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#1331Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 7:09am

 

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated....

 

So begins Thomas Friedman's column today.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/trumps-ambiguous-wink-wink-to-second-amendment-people.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

 

 


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#1332Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 7:26am

Former GOP congressman Chris Shays just endorsed Clinton on Morning Joe.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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#1334Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 8:50am

Months from now when President and President Clinton are back in their old home at 1600 Pennsylvania, I'm going to look back fondly on this race.  I prefer Trumps brand of overt racism and misogamy to the more subtle forms we got from Republicans in the past.  At least Trump's dribble can't be disguised as patriotism or religious freedom or constitutional fundamentalism or some other label that was used in the past to defend social conservative policies that I found to be reprehensible.   There's no defense for Donald Trump.  

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#1335Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 9:23am

As reprehensible as social conservatism is, let's not be naive and suggest that Trump actually represents it. He's pro-trans and pro healthcare reform. He was, until last year, also pro-choice. He doesn't really "represent" any particular ideology as he is consistently contradictory on his viewpoints. He represents anger and hate and rage. Nothing more. 

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#1336Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 9:39am

But social conservatives have bought into whatever he is selling.  So, irrespective of their reason(s), they now own him and all he stands for.  This country needs to make Trump an albatross and hang him around the necks of anyone who supports him.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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#1337Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 9:41am

kdogg36:  "And Johnson's core supporters (including me)"

 

Ew.


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PalJoey
#1338Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 9:46am

 

It's silly to say Donald Trump is "pro-trans." His pro-trans statements were just blurted out and he has made just as many NON-pro-trans statements, partilculary when he is in front of anti-trans audience. He just says whatever he feels like whenever he feels like saying it, so you can't call him "pro-trans":

 

O'Reilly asked Trump if he provided gender-neutral facilities in his properties. “No, we don’t have that," replied Trump. "I hope not. Because frankly, it would be unbelievably expensive nationwide. It would be hundreds of billions of dollars."

 

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/5/24/donald-trump-claims-accommodating-transgender-people-too-expensive

 

Billions? And then there's this:

 

latest response about the Obama administration’s guidance on respecting transgender students andpatients suggests an incoherent desire to toe the Republican Party line while also staying true to his own seemingly more inclusive beliefs?—?to the extent those beliefs are even discernible.

In an interview with the Washington Post Monday, Trump said that if elected president, he would rescind these directives protecting transgender people. With Republicans leaders across the country overwhelmingly opposing the trans student protections in particular, this is no doubt what the Party wants to hear from their candidate.

 

Oh, and this:

 

“I would end Obamacare and replace it with something terrific, for far less money for the country and for the people.”

 

https://thinkprogress.org/donald-trumps-incoherent-position-on-transgender-protections-d4d1edf969b0#.5fty3iz2z

 

 

 

 

 

 


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#1339Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 10:43am

 

One in 5 Republicans want Trump to drop out. And growing.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN10L0YS

 


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#1340Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 11:12am

Politico is reporting that these are the names in the mix for debate moderators:  ABC’s Martha Raddatz, Fox News’ Megyn Kelly or Chris Wallace, PBS’s Gwen Ifill, CBS’ John Dickerson, NBC’s Chuck Todd or Lester Holt and CNN’s Jake Tapper and Anderson Cooper.  


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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adamgreer
#1341Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 12:02pm

Please not Chuck "I let everyone off the hook and don't ask follow up questions" Todd.  Love the idea of Lester Holt, Gwen Ifill, and Anderson Cooper. 

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madbrian
#1342Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 12:31pm

Not a fan of Lester Holt, I'd replace him with Martha Raddatz.  Actually, I'd go with whoever will scare Trump the most.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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#1343Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 1:49pm

Well, if Trump even bothers to show up, he'll only claim the moderator was biased and the debate was rigged.  It's going to be an evening of Trump lies and avoidance.  There is really no scenario I can imagine where Trump's participation in the debate will do anything thing but cause him more damage, but knowing his pattern of behavior, he'll insist on doing it.  I think it's going to be his most painful train wreck thus far.  The sort that I probably could not handle watching more than maybe 15 minutes.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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#1344Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 2:02pm

 

But if he drops out of the race Labor Day weekend, someone else will be debating her.

 


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#1345Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 3:01pm

I am one who would LOVE Jon Stewart to be one of the moderators. Just imagine....

 


Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

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#1346Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 3:29pm

I wake up every morning to turn on the news to make sure he hasn't dropped out, before I pee or brush.

 


Stephanatic

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#1348Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/10/16 at 10:33pm

Hannity is really trying to bring that 1975 court case Clinton was appointed to to the forefront filled with mountains of misinformation...

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#1349Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 8/11/16 at 8:16am

Here's a sentence I never thought I'd write: Thank you, Mark Foley.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/mark-foley-donald-trump-226896


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson


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