Congratulations to Spidey...our BroadwayWorld Idol winner!- Page 56

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:37pm

That's why Liam dropped out before the prelims, papa.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:43pm

jrb, if you had phrased things like that yesterday, we wouldn't have come to blows. (I'm not saying you wouldn't have quit; I respect that - I'm just saying things wouldn't have gotten out of hand.) I don't want you to think I'm disagreeing with your points - I just disagreed with how you put them, because it made me have to go on the defensive about my intentions and my sincerity.

Now that you're not in the competition, it's a moot point, but since we're here:

"However, the problem I have been having is that I get told week after week that I am virtually flawless, but that that's not good enough. I need to step it up more. And, even when I did--they still wanted MORE. Well, in this format, that wasn't gonna happen."

Yes, we did want more. Again, I've been your biggest proponent, and that's what killed me. You've set this high bar for yourself and for other contestants; When you see the Canucks reach the playoffs, you're not happy with them just getting through round 1 - when you see the potential there, you want to see them get even better and go to round 4 and win the mother! And that's what it was. Which isn't to say we ranked you lower because you weren't at your personal best; like I said *repeatedly*, I ranked you equal or higher in most weeks. But when I did rave about you and then tell you what to improve on, it wasn't disingenious [sic]. It was being honest. And when you were occasionally ranked lower than other people, it's because the judges (and the voters) simply liked other clips more.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:44pm

"AND I WILL SAY WHAT WE ARE ALL THINKING: It's a shame bwaysinger was unable to compete!"

Oy. I'll sing for you anytime. And I think I'll do a damn fine job. But I'm just not very competitive in most respects and, fortunately, the EXTREMELY BAD timing that started this thread helped me stay out.
I'll see you all on karaoke or open mic night, though.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:44pm

The "feeling" works fine. It is the pesky "groping" that starts issues.


Of course I am the one who suggested Kitz add a certain kind of "acrobatics" to her club act, she is the one who though I said "aural."

[Musical_nerd]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:50pm

I kind of wish I hadn't tried out for BWW Idol, but now I know stuff to improve on and it actually has helped a lot.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:53pm

Mary, I have been wondering this, what were your expectations and motivations in the begining? (If you care to share. I know your experience was not very positive.)

Updated On: 3/13/06 at 03:53 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:54pm

bway, I'm holding you to that! (And holding your fuzzy shirt.)

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:55pm

Oh, these damn chains, Tiff!

They is hurtin' my wrists, they is!

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:56pm

Well, Tiff, that is exactly why I am apologizing today.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:57pm

come to the city Friday night. I'll be spending St. Paddy's day entertaining a visiting friend (from Arkansas, no less) with my rousing renditions of Heart songs.

[Musical_nerd]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:58pm

I thought I'd make it past the first round. I did it because I wanted to be known on BWW or respected or whatever you want to call it. I wanted to be told that I was good or something along those lines to boost my own self esteem, like every other teen girl in the universe trying to get through the crap that is middle school.

Foolish, but I still feel that way sometimes. I also take things way too personally, and that's a bad quality for someone who wants to go into musical theater. After this, I really just let go and don't make everything depend on stuff. Hell, the other day at the Bushnell I got up on one of the lobby stages and started singing. I NEVER would have done that before. (I do feel sorry for the people that went deaf though, what a shame).

There are many things I think I could've done that would've changed the outcome. Maybe if I had chosen a different song. Maybe if I had sang something lower or higher in pitch, or a different style. Really though, it wouldn't have changed much. It still came down to my actual voice. With all of this competition and a young sounding tone (which isnt a popular sound), I wouldn't have made it very far.

Updated On: 3/13/06 at 03:58 PM

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 3:59pm

I feel partly responsible for those now-deaf people, Mary.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:03pm

round 13 - strawberry shortcake tosses mrs. beasley's salad under the table
Posted On: 3/13/06 at 03:56 PM


Well, Tiff, that is exactly why I am apologizing today.



Oh. Well, thanks. I don't mind disagreements, as long as they stay respectful. And like Stephen, I'm sorry if you thought we didn't respect you as a performer because that was never the case; on the contrary, we really did want you to be excellent, and we were always cheering you on.

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:08pm

Wow. I'm just a prick.

Oh, well. C'est la vie, maman.

[shameless]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:11pm

Are you drama queens still going on about this? :P

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:16pm

I appreciate you being honest, Nerd. (Both the good and the bad.) At the very least, you made a few friends (and not entirely through masochism ) and I'm glad that you sang in the Bushnell, even though some of the patrons there may not be.

[Musical_nerd]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:20pm

I only wish I had a better voice. It's hard to want to do something so bad, but not being able to.

Actually, one lady clapped. Yay for an ego boost!

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:21pm

More than one lady. If someone hadn't gotten the thread deleted, I'd call you on it.

[Musical_nerd]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:22pm

Aw. You're too kind.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:29pm

Well, we sort of took your and TuBerculosis's thread in between the last one and this, so I have to appear gracious. Hope you liked the cookies.

[Musical_nerd]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:31pm

They were pretty good.

That's the most action we've seen on that board in ages.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:33pm

Thank you for remembering that I mentioned my qualms back in January YWIW (and people, it's March, it's MARCH, why are you all still doing this?). This entire thing could have been done in three rounds. Or two. There's some point at which "just fun" seems to have become a ridiculously lengthy and arduous task.

The big takeaway message I've gotten as answers to my question has been that this has been really really really hard on the organizers and the judges.

And frankly, I see no reason why JRB feels he has to apologize. I know the big discussion among the judges is that they are "consumers" first and foremost and therefore somehow representative of potential audience members. But to be honest Tiff, and you know I love you, when I read this: "Yes, we did want more...." my initial gut response was "Well, who the f**k are YOU anyway?" I'm not saying that's my rational response, but I certainly understand why JRB went off, even if I have absolutely zero understanding why he took part in the whole thing in the first place (and said that way back when).

No need to defend, Tiff. I'm just responding as a "consumer" of this whole concept who has been put off from the beginning and who believes that my worst instincts about it have come true.

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:36pm

If it isn't fun for you - don't get involved.

That applies to everyone.

It's the whole "If you don't like the topic, don't go to the thread" debate.

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:42pm

So is there ANY chance that Rath will come back and take Jerby's place? How about Akiva?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 3/13/06 at 4:52pm

"If it isn't fun for you - don't get involved..."

Ah, but that leaves out the very Real Life reality that sometimes people get involved with things that are at first fun for them that end up not being. Instead they become painful, or excruciating. And I think that the Defense Posture that has come through in response to the legitimate questions that people have been asking indicates that deep down, people can't face that in the guise of "fun" but with "no rewards, LEAST of all for the judges and organizers" that they know that's true.