Election 2024- Page 25

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 9/17/24 at 1:39pm

In one of the cowardly Convicted Felon's recent posts, he claims that the Presidential Debate was rigged.  And calls the next President of the United States "Comrade Kamala Harris".  The cowardly Sexual Abuser is running scared from a strong woman of color.

We Are Not Going Back !!  Forward !!

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/17/24 at 1:49pm

Everybody, please have your passports at hand. HG is conducting an inspection.

[Pauly3]

Posted: 9/19/24 at 4:22pm

From the Teamsters Release Presidential Endorsement Polling Data"

"Following the Republican National Convention and Biden’s campaign exit, the Teamsters commissioned a national electronic poll of its 1.3 million members, overseen by an independent third party. During a voting window from July 24-Sept. 15, rank-and-file Teamsters voted 59.6 percent for the union to endorse Trump, compared to 34 percent for Harris. "

The Teamsters leadership have decided they are not backing Harris.  Interesting.  Some Democrats are disappointed in the Teamsters leadership because they did not override the majority of their members and back Harris anyway.  Some have gone so far as to imply the Teamsters "owed" Democrats the endorsement.  Wow, I'm a bit caught off guard with such transparency.

Actually, the leadership DID override their members by not backing Trump.  Is the disappointment of the Teamsters leadership not a peculiar sentiment given "representing the people" is a foundation of Democracy?  Is believing the Democrats are owed the endorsement not also in conflict with (honest) Democracy?  What Democrats are unhappy with is a majority of rank-and-file members, but they don't have the courage or decency to be THAT transparent and call them out.  So they put the onus on the leadership instead.

Would those who have been vocal here say that some ~60% of rank-and-file union members are stupid or scum, if not deserving to be shot in the skull?

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/19/24 at 5:38pm

I would say that they have fallen for the age-old con that the Democrats are the “elite”, and that the GOP are “blue collar”.

The exact opposite is true. They are voting AGAINST their own interests by supporting Trump!

Sad.

[South Florida]

Posted: 10/21/24 at 9:24pm

Over a month since a post in here, maybe a lot of us are spent by now. Being a historian I look forward to the next few months. I still think that I died 1n 2015 and I'm being made to watch a bad movie.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 10/22/24 at 7:45pm

I think most people at this point are just going to vote and be thrilled when it is over. Hopefully, Trump acts like a grownup if he loses, not counting on it. My wish is that it is a decisive victory for one candidate or the other. Praying that it does not take days to declare a winner. Personally tired of the political adds in the mail, the TV commercials and texts to my phone.

[South Florida]

Posted: 10/22/24 at 8:02pm

A Small good sign for my side is that today is the second day of voting and I drove by a voting station and the line was long. I live in a blue district.

 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/23/24 at 8:52am

Two weeks from today we will find out if we elect of first ever female President or if we elect a dictator. I don't take polls seriously, but how is it this close? The early voting lines are a good sign that we will see a record turnout.

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/23/24 at 2:30pm

The reason the race is close is Harris is as terrible a candidate as Trump is.  There is also a not insignificant push back against the constant nonsense that Trump is worse than he actually is, such as referring to Trump as a dictator, a racist or any number of other things perceived of him.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/23/24 at 7:05pm

The media isn't covering the trainwreck that is #45 currently. He's an absolute disaster at all of his rallies. And Harris is killing it on the media circuit while Dumpster is avoiding as much media and interviews as possible.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 8:30am

"The media isn't covering the trainwreck that is #45 currently. He's an absolute disaster at all of his rallies. And Harris is killing it on the media circuit while Dumpster is avoiding as much media and interviews as possible."

You must be joking -lol. The media hates every bone in Trump's body and wish his next breath would be his last. If he was that much of a trainwreck as you say, they would be covering it 24X7.  Harris killing the media circuit is just laughable. Most of her interviews are with friendly networks/shows. She did go on FOX once and not only did she arrive late for the interview, but her staff also cut it short from the pre- determined amount of time. She goes on CBS for interview and they edit her response to question and CBS will not release the entire transcript. Harris does a "town hall" and host Maria Shriver says they already have determined questions for her and audience did not get to ask any. I get you hate Trump but saying he avoids media and interviews is just plain wrong. 

Updated On: 10/24/24 at 08:30 AM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 9:58am

Donald Trump is “perceived” as racist because of his words and actions. Discrimination against black tenants, Central Park 5, birther conspiracy, demonization of immigrants, constant dogwhistling, etc etc etc.

He is “perceived” as a dictator because of his demands of blind loyalty, cult of personality, and refusal to accept election results.

What exactly is unreasonable about this, Pauly?

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 10:42am

The perception Trump is a racist has some amount of merit, but it is weak.  The discrimination lawsuit was settled with no admission of wrongdoing, and that was decades ago.

Nearly no one understands the evidence in the Central Park Five case, because unlike the media in 1989, the media much later was overly generous to the CP5.  Sarah and Ken Burns produced a fluff piece in their documentary, and Ava DuVernay produced a work of fiction with her Netfilx story.  Neither addressed serious evidence and testimony that incriminated the CP5.  And they and the CP5 now will not address it.  If you'd like to learn this incriminating evidence, you could go down a deep well of information and discover for yourself, as I have, or you can remain ignorant of much of it (like most people).  I'd be happy to address the evidence in a comment topic here, but I suspect that wouldn't be very popular....you know, because a lot of people here don't like it when actual evidence is presented that contradicts "popular" (false) narratives.

Related to the CP5, Trump never called for their execution.  That he did with his 1989 newspaper ads is factually incorrect.  One only read the ad to determine for oneself he did not call for their execution.  Kamala Harris lied (or was mistaken, because she allowed herself to become a "useful idiot" when she repeated this nonsense).

Regarding the birther conspiracy, nothing about it indicates the conspirators are racist.  This is a pervasive problem with too many people.  They think because someone of color is insulted or that saying something about a person of color that turns out to be wrong, that the motivation is racism.  No, like anyone, people of color don't have a special privilege that makes them impervious to criticism or victims of conspiracy theories.

Trump demonizes illegal immigration.  It is a false narrative that he demonizes immigrants generically.  This too is not rooted in any actual racism, or at least there is no credible evidence to back up such sentiment.

As for being a dictator, he was not one in his first term.  None of his personality deficiencies nor his past actions demonstrate himself to be an actual dictator.  So I agree with you, the "perception" is there, but it's just that.  Not actual.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 10:49am

Beyonce will appear at a Houston rally tomorrow with soon-to-be President Kamala Harris.  Now we're talkin' !!

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:02am

Trump arguably did behave like a dictator in his first (and hopefully only) term when he tried to manipulate the 2020 Georgia vote. To give one example. 

Where is Mike Pence now? Explain please why he is not on the current ticket. Trump just will not tolerate any dissenting opinion whatsoever.

He will be even worse as #47.
 

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:05am

Beyonce supports the evil oligarchs of Dubai, she has some nerve showing up at a Kamala rally.

Still, if it helps gets votes, I guess she is welcome.

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:15am

Pointing out Trump's transgressions is valid.  Equating them with "dictator" is going too far.  Which is what nearly everyone who opposes Trump does.  With nearly everything, constantly.  Hey Kamala, THIS is what is exhausting.

Being you didn't address the argument of Trump being a racist, is that because you can see my point?  I'm not asking to side with me, I'm just wondering if you see my point as being on the side of reasonable.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:30am

Personally, I’m not sure if he is actually racist. In that he despises non-white people. He really only gives a sh!t about one person only, himself. He would throw anyone and anything under the bus to further his own cause. For electoral purposes, he is  stoking racism and capitalizing on certain conservative Confederate sentiments. He is using racists to get back into the Oval Office… so while I am unsure about his own levels of racism, there is no doubt in my mind that his election would be harmful to people of color. The rest is semantics.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:57am

Pauly3 said: "Related to the CP5, Trump never called for their execution. That he did with his 1989 newspaper ads is factually incorrect."

The ad blares "BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY" before discussing the purveyors of violence in places like Central Park. I think you're basing your argument on the fact that the ad doesn't explicitly name the Central Park Five, but it was very, very obvious to readers at the time that the ad was about them.

"Regarding the birther conspiracy, nothing about it indicates the conspirators are racist."

Oh yes, it sure does. The fact that nothing like this ever came up until a Black person was running for president. The fact that neither Trump nor his followers seemed to care when he was running against a non-Black candidate who actually was born in another country. It was a rumor created out of thin air to appeal to those who didn't want a Black man to be president.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 12:13pm

Kdogg, as an aside, what is your position on immigration? “Illegal” immigrants are the ultimate libertarians, right?

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 12:17pm

Trump is indeed a narcissist, and he may indeed care only about himself.  Like saying he is a racist is going too for, so is saying he despises non-white people.

Trump is not the one stoking racism.  The "too far gone" reactions to Trump are perpetuating a racial divide, not unlike the reaction to the George Zimmerman & Trayvon Martin shooting (as well as the Central Park Five story).  False narratives, too often, not only absent credible evidence but in direct contradiction to credible evidence, are perpetuating racial division more so than actual racism in the 21st century.

You seem to ignore his first term where his administrative helped all races and classes, economically - and included helping imprisoned people (where there is a massive disparity in the racial makeup) get out early and provide assistance upon re-entering society.  The Abraham Accords he succeed in accomplishing was significant too.  You also seem to ignore Trump has increased the percentage of the vote among black people, especially black men since he previously increased it over the prior years.  Your "no doubt" Trump will be harmful to people of color is perception, not based in a lot of actual evidence.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 12:34pm

I don’t think he despises non-white people, is what I was trying to say. Just that he really could not care less one way or the other. He will happily sacrifice anybody to help clear his path to Washington.

Immigrants, for example. “Poisoning the blood of our country”… does he really believe this? No. He’s just pushing the buttons of white supremacists. Equally shameful.

 

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 12:39pm

kdogg36 said: "The ad blares "BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY" before discussing the purveyors of violence in places like Central Park. I think you're basing your argument on the fact that the ad doesn't explicitly name the Central Park Five, but it was very, very obvious to readers at the time that the ad was about them."

No, the FALSE perception to readers was that the ad was about the Central Park Five.  More specifically, the controversy is whether Trump called for the execution of the Central Park Five or not.  You are ignoring (or ignorant of) the part where Trump said, "when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes".  No killing occurred in the Central Park crime spree the Central Park Five were charged with participating in.  One need only read the ad, you know, educate oneself, to see that Trump was talking about crime overall - and that the ad was not solely about the Central Park Five.  Certainly, Trump included the Central Park Five by implication if not specifically stating their inclusion, but in no way, shape or form, did Trump call for the execution of the Central Park Five.

"Oh yes, it [the birther conspiracy] sure does [indicate racism]. The fact that nothing like this ever came up until a Black person was running for president. The fact that neither Trump nor his followers seemed to care when he was running against a non-Black candidate who actually was born in another country. It was a rumor created out of thin air to appeal to those who didn't want a Black man to be president."

The birther conspiracy came about, at least in part, due to a short article published in the early 1990's that was specifically bringing positive attention to book publishers about Obama, where the author of the article specifically said Obama was born in Kenya.  Sure, that was a mistake.  But, at least some, did not understand at the time it was a mistake when they repeated it.  The fact Obama's early childhood existed in Indonesia, where he went by the name Barry Soetoro lead (some) people to reasonably believe there was something to the conspiracy.  So no, the story was not a simple rumor born out of thin air.

 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 12:50pm

The MAGA crazies get hurt when we compare #45 to Hitler. But look at the rallies and notice the Nazi flags flying aside the MAGA flags. White supremacists openly walk with a MAGA flag. There's someone's house near where I work that has a MAGA flag and a swastika flag side-by-side. That's why Dems compare the two equally. Especially since he wants to use the military to stand near the border and openly shoot anyone trying to cross.

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 1:11pm

Those of us who condemn the comparisons to Hitler, MAGA or not or MAGA-crazy or not, do so because the comparisons are preposterous.  I am unaware of any instances where Nazi flags were flown by Trump supporters.  If you care to provide such evidence, I'm happy to review it and will join you in your disgust.