Election 2024- Page 26

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 2:12pm

https://x.com/JaneotN/status/1566175755687858176?t=-CfLi0CmdrwhF2Pk6WwuWg&s=19

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1845835200107798976?t=vt750PHlXIppQcVOHRmKCA&s=19

 

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 2:27pm

Those images are truly disgusting.  None of those images are OK with Trump, as far as I am aware.  Unlike what gets reported and what too many people believe, Trump has denounced white supremacy.  You may choose to believe he is lying, but you can't deny he has indeed denounced it.  If much of the public and media were not so quick to overdo it with exaggerations and even lies about what Trump has stated (in context), I would be more open to the idea that Trump is more evil than I currently believe he is.  The overdoing it causes "you all" to lose credibility, and that works against what you're trying to convey of Trump.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 2:54pm

Eleven days until the convicted felon, wanna-be dictator, homophobe, racist, sexual abuser (and on and on) will be defeated by a Woman of Color !!   Take that, MAGA thugs.

The Blue Wave Is Here !!

We Are Not Going Back !!

Kamala Harris/Tim Walz to the White House !!

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:08pm

So the Charlottesville attack where he called them "very nice people" is condemning it? There's Nazi flags at every rally. Those merchandise trailers that are near his rallies have Nazi merchandise available. You really are having a hard time grasping the connection that people are making between him and Hitler. 

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:25pm

You're not helping yourself, ACL.  Trump's comments about what occurred in Charlottesville has been debunked - or rather the evil context "you all" prescribe has been debunked.  Even by Snopes.  Trump has been asked, directly, if he denounces white supremacy, and he has specifically said he does.  So your question is absurd.

I don't believe you regarding the extent of the nazi flags and merchandise being available in direct connection to Trump rallies.  You're trying to make a connection that may exist to some extent, but it doesn't exist to any extent that paints Trump himself as someone who shares such horrific views.

There is no relatable connection between Trump and Hitler.  "You all" keep overdoing it, and it's not helping your cause.

 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:32pm

Says the cowardly draft-dodging coward who has called our brave military losers:   "I need the kind of Generals that Hitler had."

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:57pm

Very few not suffering from TDS believe Trump said what is claimed.  He may have said something related and it was then taken out of context.  It's not like THAT never happens!

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 4:38pm

Why do you ignore warnings from people who actually worked with him, such as Mark Kelly? Doesn’t that concern you in the slightest?

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 4:44pm

I don't ignore it.  And I am concerned by it, because if there is actual merit behind what is being warned concerned is warranted to say the least.  However, without credible evidence - GIVEN THE LONG HISTORY OF TAKING TRUMP OUT OF CONTEXT, I think there is every chance the story is bunk.  And I'm fully justified in that thinking.  If everything is racist, then nothing is.  Same concept.

[binau]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 5:00pm

Wow, it's looking like Trump will almost certainly win now. I hope the Democratic Party and Democratic Party leadership can learn from this - the fact that Trump can win so easily does not make Trump look bad it makes them look bad. Enough is enough, they need better leadership and they need leadership that will listen to what the people want. Enough of this ridiculous hyper-partisan echo-chamber politics that refuses to listen and dismiss any critical ideas as misinformation or propaganda. It simply does not work anymore. The Democratic Party should be ashamed of themselves they have let their members and their supporters down. It is not good enough. 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 5:43pm

If Trump wins, it will be the fault of our broken society. A little unfair to narrow down blame to just the DNC. They presented a competent candidate, more than able for the job. What more can they do? Only select white men from now on?

[kdogg36]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 6:34pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Kdogg, as an aside, what is your position on immigration? “Illegal” immigrants are the ultimate libertarians, right?"

I don't want to start a discussion about this, but your suspicions are correct. All honest people are welcome to be my neighbors, regardless of whatever river or imaginary line in the middle of the desert they had to cross to get here.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 7:39pm

"If Trump wins, it will be the fault of our broken society. A little unfair to narrow down blame to just the DNC. They presented a competent candidate, more than able for the job. What more can they do? Only select white men from now on?"

Cmon Jay. Please inform us all of the achievements of Kamala Harris in her political career. The current VP was selected by Joe Biden because she was a woman and not white. Biden was not going to even consider maybe an Asian or Latino male for example. In 2020, Harris ran for POTUS and polled so badly that she withdrew from the race before the first primary. In other words, people did not think very highly of her. Biden selected her to be the "border czar", has that been a great success, Jay?

If Trump wins it will be because every poll you see people say the country is headed in the wrong direction. Quite a few people don't think defunding the police is a good idea like Democratic party and Harris. People don't want open borders with millions coming into the country illegally. Believe it or not Jay, lots of people believe in enforcing federal immigration law and don't like "sanctuary cities/states". Polling shows that people favor Trump over Harris on the economy. People in "flyover" country are tired of the elite on both coasts disdain of them after all they are "deplorable" -lol. These people would love to once again say "f*** you" to the media and "Hollywood". The only issue Harris wins on is abortion, majority of her votes will be due to Trump hatred.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 8:44pm

Biden needed to step down a lot earlier in order for the DNC to go through the primary process and select someone other than Harris. Harris selected Walz because he's a well liked, white Christian governor. Which is why Josh Shapiro didn't get selected, or Pete Buttigieg, or a black man or another woman.

 

Then there's the GOP completely ignoring why #45 had to select a new VP. So Pence nearly getting killed gets forgotten or is one of their "it never happened" issues? And why is Mike Pence so silent now? Or mostly anyone that got fired under Dumpster's first term?

[binau]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 2:23am

Jay Lerner-Z said: "IfTrump wins, it will be the fault of our broken society. A little unfair to narrow down blame to just the DNC. They presented a competent candidate, more than able for the job. What more can they do? Only select white men from now on?"

This is exactly the kind of attitude I’m afraid they will have and therefore not learn anything. I don’t agree that it simply reflects a broken society or that Kamala is a competent candidate. The issue is not about Kamala’s race or gender. The issue is her as an individual as well as the effectiveness of the wider party - she did well in her debate against Trump but now after many more appearances I just don’t think she is intellectually strong enough and more importantly she is obviously a far left candidate in a centrist costume now that people can see through. 

I believe that someone like Tulsi Gabbard could become the first female president of the USA - it’s looking now like she will hold a significant position on Trump’s team and the kind of succession I can imagine in the future would be people like her or JD Vance. This will also create further problems for the Democrats because these are real threats - the other problem is that the democrats are so quick to roll their eyes and not actually take seriously their competition. You can easily dismiss JD Vance as ‘weird’ for example - but it is obvious listening to him that he is incredibly intelligent and should not be underestimated. The Democrats would be wise to back leadership who are on greater intellectual playing fields than the competition who can actually take these threats seriously and compete. 

I don’t believe that the Democrats actually understand the threat faced to them - one of the reflections I had watching the 2016 primaries was that Trump was actually more moderate of a candidate and some of the competitors were both more intelligent and theocratically scary than Trump. I don’t believe that a post-Trump world will be any easier or less scary. Rather the opposite.

The only way to win is to open eyes, see reality for what is is and not for what you want it to be, take the competition seriously, really listen and understand what the public are looking for and not what some dogmatic far left people think the public should be looking for. This is a democracy.

The longer democrats continue to dismiss the competition, not listen to criticism or believe that any and all criticism makes someone a right wing puppet, a slave to misinformation, or a traitor, or continue to perpetuate far left ideas that the public simply aren’t buying, they are going to lose over and over again.

 

 

 

 

Updated On: 10/25/24 at 02:23 AM

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 1:21pm

binau said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "IfTrump wins, it will be the fault of our broken society. A little unfair to narrow down blame to just the DNC. They presented a competent candidate, more than able for the job. What more can they do? Only select white men from now on?"

This is exactly the kind of attitude I’m afraid they will have and therefore not learn anything. I don’t agree that it simply reflects a broken society orthat Kamala is a competent candidate. The issue is not about Kamala’s race or gender. The issue is her as an individual as well as the effectiveness of the wider party - she did well in her debate against Trump but now after many more appearancesI just don’t think she is intellectually strong enough and more importantly she is obviously a far left candidate in a centrist costume now that people can see through.

I believe that someone like Tulsi Gabbard could become the first female president of the USA - it’s looking now like she will hold a significant position on Trump’s team and the kind of succession I can imagine in the future would be people like her or JD Vance. This will also create further problems for the Democrats because these are real threats - the other problem is that the democrats are so quick to roll their eyes and not actually take seriously their competition. You can easily dismiss JD Vance as ‘weird’ for example - but it is obvious listening to him that he is incredibly intelligent and should not be underestimated.The Democrats would be wise to back leadership who are on greater intellectual playing fields than the competition who can actually take these threats seriously and compete.

I don’t believe that the Democrats actually understand the threat faced to them - one of the reflections I had watching the 2016 primaries was that Trump was actually more moderate of a candidate and some of the competitors were both more intelligent and theocratically scary than Trump. I don’t believe that a post-Trump world will be any easier or less scary. Rather the opposite.

The only way to win is to open eyes, see reality for what is is and not for what you want it to be, take the competition seriously, really listen and understand what the public are looking for and not what some dogmatic far left people think the public should be looking for. This is a democracy.

The longer democrats continue to dismiss the competition, not listen to criticism or believe that any and all criticism makes someone a right wing puppet, a slave to misinformation, or a traitor, or continue to perpetuate far left ideas that the public simply aren’t buying, they are going to lose over and over again."

More balderdash from this tedious MAGA troll who doesn't have the balls to own up to his true citizenship.

 

[binau]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 1:27pm

Sorry but responses like that are a waste of time because they don’t even engage with the discussion. And let me pre-empt yet another silly reply where you try to have another emotional name calling and tell you that’s also pointless. If you don’t feel equipped to actually have a discussion that’s fine just leave it. People that want to succeed should welcome and embrace criticism to do better not shout it down and ignore it. 
 

Of course you perceive any criticism of the democrats as ‘maga’ and that’s why you’ve lost the election, congratulations for being part of the self destructive culture that is causing the very outcome you’re trying to avoid. 

Updated On: 10/25/24 at 01:27 PM

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 1:45pm

binau said: "Sorry but responses like that are a waste of time because they don’t even engage with the discussion. And let me pre-empt yet another silly reply where you try to have another emotional name calling and tell you that’s also pointless. If you don’t feel equipped to actually have a discussion that’s fine just leave it. People that want to succeed should welcome and embrace criticism to do better not shout it down and ignore it.


Of course you perceive any criticism of the democrats as ‘maga’ and that’s why you’ve lost the election, congratulations for being part of the self destructive culture that is causing the very outcome you’re trying to avoid."

More MAGA CLAPTRAP.  You're a lying troll who is afraid to admit that you're not a U.S. citizen.  Every single bit of MAGA filth you post here should be challenged.

[binau]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 1:47pm

Then challenge me you imbecile all you’ve done so far is incorrectly associated sincere criticism about why the Democrat party is going to lose as ‘MAGA’. That’s not challenge. Challenge is respond to the points. 

[Pauly3]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 2:08pm

binau said: "congratulations for being part of the self destructive culture that is causing the very outcome you’re trying to avoid."

Ding, ding, ding!  TRUTH!

And if "you all" think binau is remotely close to MAGA, you're reading different comments than the rest of us.

 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 2:31pm

And a reminder for our patriotic American Democrats (and our like-minded American friends) who are proud of their U.S. citizenship.....

Step away from the nonsensical lies being spewed here by the resident BWW MAGA trolls.  Watch today's Houston rally with soon-to-be President Kamala Harris.  She is scheduled to be joined by American icons Beyonce and Willie Nelson. 

We Are Not Going Back  !!

Harris/Walz To The White House  !!

VOTE DEMOCRATIC PARTY  !!!  

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 5:40pm

I think it’s too early for a post-mortem, binau. The election is not over yet! I think your prediction is premature, you might be surprised.

By “competent candidate” I really mean ability to do the job when elected. I wish there was more substance in this campaign. Not blue-collar McDonalds schtick, of which Trump is a master of.

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 10/26/24 at 12:09pm

binau said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "IfTrump wins, it will be the fault of our broken society. A little unfair to narrow down blame to just the DNC. They presented a competent candidate, more than able for the job. What more can they do? Only select white men from now on?"

This is exactly the kind of attitude I’m afraid they will have and therefore not learn anything. I don’t agree that it simply reflects a broken society orthat Kamala is a competent candidate. The issue is not about Kamala’s race or gender. The issue is her as an individual as well as the effectiveness of the wider party - she did well in her debate against Trump but now after many more appearancesI just don’t think she is intellectually strong enough and more importantly she is obviously a far left candidate in a centrist costume now that people can see through.

Kamala isn't far left. You don't make it as far as she has in the Democratic party and be far left. Look at how much criticism "the squad" receives from mainstream Democrats. I agree that she is playing to the Center in the lead up to the election, however.

I believe that someone like Tulsi Gabbard could become the first female president of the USA - it’s looking now like she will hold a significant position on Trump’s team and the kind of succession I can imagine in the future would be people like her or JD Vance. This will also create further problems for the Democrats because these are real threats - the other problem is that the democrats are so quick to roll their eyes and not actually take seriously their competition. You can easily dismiss JD Vance as ‘weird’ for example - but it is obvious listening to him that he is incredibly intelligent and should not be underestimated.The Democrats would be wise to back leadership who are on greater intellectual playing fields than the competition who can actually take these threats seriously and compete.

I just don't understand why people think someone with Harris' resume is unintelligent. BTW, I do think Vance is highly intelligent and scarier than Trump. 
 

 

I don’t believe that the Democrats actually understand the threat faced to them - one of the reflections I had watching the 2016 primaries was that Trump was actually more moderate of a candidate and some of the competitors were both more intelligent and theocratically scary than Trump. I don’t believe that a post-Trump world will be any easier or less scary. Rather the opposite.

The only way to win is to open eyes, see reality for what is is and not for what you want it to be, take the competition seriously, really listen and understand what the public are looking for and not what some dogmatic far left people think the public should be looking for. This is a democracy.
 

Democrats run kicking and screaming from the far Left. Just look at their disgust when the car Left was talking about defunding the police.


The longer democrats continue to dismiss the competition, not listen to criticism or believe that any and all criticism makes someone a right wing puppet, a slave to misinformation, or a traitor, or continue to perpetuate far left ideas that the public simply aren’t buying, they are going to lose over and over again.

What are the far left ideas that the public aren't buying? 
 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 10/26/24 at 3:08pm

The truly scary thing about IF Dumpster gets reelected and he can't finish out the term is that Vance will go full Project 2025. That's when things will get very scary in this country.

[South Florida]

Posted: 10/27/24 at 8:31pm

There are three or four people in this discussion that are Dumpers. I have to ask again, in spite of everything else, how did you feel about the time between the 2020 voting day and January 6th? Do you think the election was rigged, did Dump really win?  Did you think all the court cases , every one, he lost, 80+, were they fixed?  Did the three quarters of a billion dollar award to the voting machine company, paid by Fox, was that a scam? Did anything, or nothing, in those two months bother you? We're you happy about January 6th, or were you repulsed.  Answer me Binau, Pauly, Zeppie, et al, how did you feel about that day and those two months?