".have you seen even 5 seconds of a Trump rally? "
Once again, proof why millions of Americans in "flyover" country dislike you and others like you. Your condescending remark an attitude that you are better than them is insulting. Yes, I have seen a few rallies on TV, look like any other political rally with people cheering for their candidate.
Zeppie2022 said: ""Genuinely shocked by how many Americans are apparently evil and stupid."
And you wonder why people vote for somebody like Trump. People in the heartland know people like yourself despise them with ever fiber in your being. You openly mock them and call them names like "deplorables" or "garbage". You insult them by saying they are racist, sexist, homophobicetc. because they don't politically agree with you and the "elites". They are celebrating today telling the media, big tech, Hollywood etc. to f*** off. They are probably enjoying every bit of your whining and pain today."
Interesting you say "elites". Am watching the post wrap up and as I turned the TV on, they were talking about just that and the Democrats now not being looked at as a party for the "little people" but the elite.
There is a shift and the Democrats have not learned how to shift with it.
I also do agree with Jay, men do still have a problem voting for women here for President. I had friends that knocked on doors in black communities and found that the men were not going to vote for her. Some said they were voting for Trump and some were "undecided". (Which meant they probably were not planning to vote). Even black women were not totally behind her. Something that was not even on my radar was black women voting for Trump because of the stimulus check. And that shows just how much attention they don't pay to things.
For those who are not happy today I heard someone say this morning that we just can't let him get in our heads. Continue to fight for the country and our rights, if need be.
What an inspiring concession speech. I gave my screen a standing ovation. Yes, I will stop wallowing, pull up my sleeves and get back to fighting the good fight as soon as I can.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
Zeppie, just a reminder that you called Trump voters stupid on the very first page of this thread.
HG, it’s not the title I find harmful. Although “lady” is certainly an outdated term. It’s the legacy that the job of First Lady has left. It has impacted on public perception - men are “presidential", women are there to look pretty and hold their husband’s hand. A glorified housewife.
I acknowledge that the role has changed somewhat, starting with Hillary, but still, enough.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
First Lady is an old term. used when the monarch is unmarried and has no pne to act as hostess. The eldest unmarried female in the family (usually a sister) took on that role and became the First Lady of the land
"Zeppie, just a reminder that you called Trump voters stupid on the very first page of this thread."
That is correct but you failed to mention the context I used the term. I said they were "stupid" to vote for Trump again in primary because of all of the drama that comes with him. I believed at that time they had a wonderful chance for a generational change in leadership instead of somebody close to 80. Desantis or Haley are much younger and would have been stark contrast to Biden who we believed would be the nominee for the Democrats. At that time, I thought Trump hatred would destroy him again in 2024 like it did in 2020. I will admit I was wrong just like so many pollsters. I never said these Trump voters were not smart intellectually nor did I classify them as racist, sexist or homophobic. I also did not refer to them as "deplorables" or "garbage". Big difference Jay but thanks for trying -lol.
Having finished w my pedantry. Ley me just sau 5 yrs ago I wrote here that thr Dems needed the find young fresh clean candidates w new ideas, not the same old same old. Even in midterms I said the same thing
But same old is what was offered so no surprise really.
Given the full extent of the win I think you have to accept this is who America wants to be now.
(PS I say this knowing in my country's next election, Dustin is gone and Pierre Polieve. will be our version of Trump)
Zeppie2022 said: "".have you seen even 5 seconds of a Trump rally? "
Once again, proof why millions of Americans in "flyover" country dislike you and others like you. Your condescending remark an attitude that you are better than them is insulting. Yes, Ihave seen a few rallies on TV, look like any other political rally with people cheering for their candidate."
Thank you for implying all of that based on one question I asked. My point was all this pearl clutching about some of the language Dems have used is silly when the Trump rallies were nothing but insults, derogatory nicknames and a total lack of respect for anyone outside of their political alignment. It cuts both ways and to pretend it doesn’t is just ridiculous.
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Forecasters at Pantheon Macroeconomics project that a 10% tariff would increase inflation by about 0.8 percentage points next year and impose an additional drag on U.S. manufacturers.
The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that Trump's fiscal policies would add an extra $7.75 trillion in government debt over the next decade.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
Zeppie2022 said: ""Genuinely shocked by how many Americans are apparently evil and stupid."
And you wonder why people vote for somebody like Trump. People in the heartland know people like yourself despise them with ever fiber in your being. You openly mock them and call them names like "deplorables" or "garbage". You insult them by saying they are racist, sexist, homophobicetc. because they don't politically agree with you and the "elites". They are celebrating today telling the media, big tech, Hollywood etc. to f*** off. They are probably enjoying every bit of your whining and pain today."
They ARE deplorable garbage actually, and they're not only in the American heartland. They're everywhere and they're hateful and evil and they know it.
And the democrats are spineless and stupid and absolutely useless. They handed the American Nazis this country on a silver platter with the way in which they just downright refused to actually help the working class of this nation. Joe Biden was an absolutely useless idiot. Couldn't even be bothered to make sure that federal student loans were eradicated. The blame should just as much be placed on them.
Oh and the Nazis are tired of "big tech?" Big tech like Elon Musk? Lol. And all of Hollywood voted for Trump regardless of who they endorsed because Trump's evil tax plan helps the super rich elites.
Switzerland, arguably the most civilized and peaceful country on earth, have no President. They have no Prime Minister. Not one person leads government, instead a council of seven serve as head of state.
Fun fact.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
Highland Guy said: "kdogg36 said: "Let's not be stupid, okay"
And let's not be rude, okay?
"
LOL This is so hypocritical I don't even know where to start. How RUDE were you and others to me (especially YOU) when I was warning you that Trump would win and instead of actually listening you called me all sorts of names.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
binau said: "Highland Guy said: "kdogg36 said: "Let's not be stupid, okay"
And let's not be rude, okay?
"
LOL This is so hypocritical I don't even know where to start. How RUDE were you and others to me (especially YOU) when I was warning you that Trump would win and instead of actually listening you called me all sorts of names."
Are you posting this nonsense from your home country of AUSTRALIA (or is it GREAT BRITAIN)? Your home country certainly isn't the Good Old USA, although you try to make believe that you are an expert on everything American. You are not, ane never will be. Be gone, foreign troll.
Well, you can keep it up but ultimately I was right and you were wrong. For everyone else in this thread except you, I have sympathy and I am SORRY that that Kamala didn't win. For you, I take great pleasure in proving you wrong and hope you learn something from this experience. Somehow I knew more than you despite being a 'foreigner' or whatever prejudice you hold. That's a bit humiliating I think. Lol.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
binau said: "Well, you can keep it up but ultimately I was right and you were wrong. For everyone else in this thread except you, I have sympathy and I am SORRY that that Kamala didn't win. For you, I take great pleasure in providing you wrong and hope you learn something from this experience."
You are so (what's the word?)/........creepy. Yeah, a CREEPY TROLL.
And you are "providing me wrong"? What does that even mean? NO NEED TO RESPOND, foreign guy.
It means that when someone in GOOD FAITH articulates why they think the incompetence of the Democrats has put their 2024 presidency at risk instead of being so nasty you might be reasonable and realise that you can learn a thing or two. You should feel a little bit of shame and embarrassment not continue this ridiculous tirade.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
binau said: "Somehow I knew more than you despite being a 'foreigner' or whatever prejudice you hold. That's a bit humiliating I think. Lol. "
Just highlighting your uipdate where still you did not admit that you are not a citizen of the United States. I can only assume that you are ashamed of your home country. The term "foreigner" is a fact, not an insult. No prejudice on my part (read through some of my threads and posts where I discuss Great Britain). Were you honest about where in the hell you hang your hat, I might have engaged with you and some of your LONG-winded posts. Occasionally you were spot on. But you can NEVER hope to have an understanding of our political system
But you are not being truthful with us. And that's the mark of a troll.
binau said: "It means that when someone in GOOD FAITH articulates why they think the incompetence of the Democrats hasput their 2024 presidency at riskinstead of being so nasty you might be reasonable and realise that you can learn a thing or two. You should feel a little bit of shame and embarrassment not continue this ridiculous tirade."
One clue that you are not an American is your spelling of the word "realise". We don't spell it that way in the U.S.