Mel Gibson's Racist Rant Caught On Tape (now with Audio)- Page 7

[tazber]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 9:00am

I really want to see it.

Also, I heard on the radio this morning that his ex wrote an email or tweet or something to him totally forgiving him and saying that he did nothing wrong. (her lawyers are probably kicking themselves right about now)

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 10:35am

Jodie the Closet Case defends Mel the Bigot. Glad she's such buddies with him. Has he told her he hopes she gets raped by a pack of wild n*ggers?

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 10:40am

^ See, that's the thing. Even if it turns out that he never laid a hand on whatshername, as long as that's actually him saying any of those things, he's still a racist piece of sh!t.

And even if it was proven that it's NOT him saying those things, he's still a homophobic piece of sh!t because I SAW him say anti-gay stuff on my friggin' TV.

The fact that a self-loathing closet case thinks he's swell doesn't change a thing.


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[tazber]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 10:44am

Not defending either Jodie or Mel here but I don't think that Jodie is self-loathing.

Mel is batsh*t crazy we all know that, but I'm not holding anything against Jodie for sticking by him. She didn't defend his actions, just said that she wouldn't abandon a friend in dark times.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 10:47am

I suppose it could be argued that being in the closet doesn't necessarily equate with self-loathing.

But I'll never forget her response, at the time of "Silence of the Lambs," when she was asked on TV "Do you have anything to say to the claims that this film could provoke violence against gay people?" And she smirked (sorry, that's the only word for it) and said "Nope. Next question."

I've hated her ever since.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 10:57am

OT: I thought the trans community took real umbrage, and rightly so, with the Buffalo Bill character in Silence of The Lambs (even if it was basically a very exaggerated, dramatized takeoff on Ed Gein).

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 10:58am

I don't care what he did or didn't do to her...I heard enough racist/homophobic comments spew from his ugly mouth over the years that I know I wouldn't ever be able to suffer through another one of his movies.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:03am

I thought the whole SILENCE OF THE LAMBS violence against gays thing was blown outlandishly out of proportion, but that's just me, like whole BASIC INSTINCT mess. Silly.

Now BRAVEHEART and JFK, yeah, there are two seriously homophobic movies.

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[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:13am

I actually agree, Roscoe. I just was infuriated by her smirking, cavalier attitude.

Maybe I overreacted, but it was my honest response at the time.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:19am

Well, she's always stayed the hell away from anything even remotely having to do with homosexuality, right? Her eagerness to dodge the question probably had as much to do with where it might have led (So Jodie, how bout you? Munch any carpet lately?) as contempt for the position that the movie was might lead to violence against gays.

Whatever. Ms. Foster's pretty well history by now anyway. Let her churn out her little indie movies that maybe 5 people who aren't on her staff will actually put down money to see. She's not hurting anyone. Of course, she's not helping, either...

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:21am

Well, again I agree.

So I should have said "cowardly" in my original post, instead of "self-loathing."

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:26am

And, unlike other celebrities, I always kind of give Jodie Foster a pass. I mean...having a President shot by someone just to prove his love for you will kind of f*ck with your head. So, rightly or wrongly, I don't hold too much against Foster for trying to control to some extent what information is known about her.

I'm in agreement re: Silence of the Lambs. I can see how some might be offended, but it never registered that way for me.

I refuse to see Braveheart, though.

As for JFK...I know...I should hate it. But I kinda love that movie. The middle sequence featuring Donald Sutherland is just so spectacularly mesmerizing. And I thought Tommy Lee Jones should have one the Oscar that year.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:29am

^ You're right, of course, and even as much as I dislike her (and I do), I've never forgotten that fact.

Still doesn't change my response to her response. But I have certainly thought about that when considering her reluctance to open up about her private life at all.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:40am

Hmmm. I'm not doubting anyone for a minute, but I don't remember anything homophobic about BRAVEHEART. I haven't seen it since it came out though, and it is WAY long, so maybe I missed the homophobia while I was making popcorn. In any case, don't intend to see any of his films again.

Is it so that his girlfriend has forgiven him? Pity, if so.

Jodie I just kinda have to shake my head at.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:47am

Ghost, the homophobic content in BRAVEHEART comes from the depiction of Edward Longshank's ghastly effeminate son Edward II, who is presented as a mincing whining cartoon of total ineffectuality, a symbol of British decadence, as opposed to the virile manly manliness of Sir William Wallace's Scottish rebels who just can't wait to put on skirts and makeup and run onto the battlefield so they can stick REALLY BIG SWORDS into other men.

It gets really offensive after a while, most awfully during the scene where Edward Longshanks tosses his son's boyfriend out a window to his death.

Basically, BRAVEHEART was the most cluelessly homophobic major release until Zack Snyder's revolting 300 came along.

[StageManager2]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:50am

There was another man, Edward Richardson, who stalked the Yale campus planning to shoot her but changed his mind 'cause she was "too pretty" to die. And more recently, there was Michael Smegal, who mailed a bomb threat to several LA airports in defense of Foster. Apparently, he was upset about disparaging remarks that were made about her by the Screen Actors Guild and he believed these airports held SAG offices.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:23pm

"as opposed to the virile manly manliness of Sir William Wallace's Scottish rebels who just can't wait to put on skirts and makeup and run onto the battlefield so they can stick REALLY BIG SWORDS into other men. "

After presenting their bare bums to them. Yep, it's all coming back to me now, Roscoe.

I had rented BRAVEHEART as soon as it came out, Roscoe, and watched it only once, multitasking as I watched, but OMG, how on earth could I forget that? I do remember all that now, and how horrified I was by the defenestration scene in particular. I was so glad to see a depiction of the era of Scottish history I guess my memory went selective. Thanks for the reminder, Roscoe.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:37pm

re: Braveheart, let's also not forget Edward's miserable wife in a loveless marriage with a fey Prince that even the chambermaid can see is making her miserable. But alas, she finds love with the alpha male, and recently single, William Wallace.

On JFK, I think it spoke more about Garrison regarding going after a lot of gay men in his 'investigation'. I thought Tommy Lee Jones should have won an Oscar too.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:40pm

BRAVEHEART is one deeply screwed up movie. It makes BLUE VELVET look like an episode of BARNEY.

As for JFK, Garrison went after the gay guys, and Oliver Stone had them all play it up to the point where it became this weird gay plot to overthrow our Shining Hetero Hero. I'll admit to enjoying Tommy Lee Jones, though. That bit where he stares down Kevin Costner, asking, "Can I go now?"

And then Stone did it again in NIXON, with a really out there version of J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson. All these homo-villains.

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[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:54pm

I can't watch Oliver Stone's movies anymore. They're so over-the-top and heavy-handed that they make me laugh. I got filthy looks from other theater-goers during JFK because I burst into hysterical giggles during the gay party scene where everyone was painted gold. So absurd and manufactured.

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 1:03pm

I have always kind of respected Jodie because even thought she has never been out-out, she's never been in either. She didn't do the Hollywood norm of marrying a beard and having children. She's always been involved with a woman and just refused to talk about it. I hate that she dumped her lady for a younger model as seems to be the Hollywood way. lol

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 1:14pm

As I said, my problem with was not her being closeted (or not); it was her glib dismissal of gay concerns even as it was being reported that audiences at "Silence of the Lambs" were screaming "Kill the faggot!"

Even if she wanted to deny any anti-gay message on the part of the film, she could have been more respectful of the issue, IMO.
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[tazber]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 2:19pm

Re: JFK, I do like the movie and I never got that Stone was being homophobic. I mean the whole movie is one vast conspiracy theory in which pretty much everyone is reduced to a streotype.

I agree that Sutherland was mesmerizing. As was Jones.

Braveheart was a mess. Tonally uneven and unforgivably manipulative. All that bluster meant to stir emotion came off as ersatz and campy to me. Granted I saw it on dvd so perhaps the big screen enhanced the experience.
And the portrayal of the gay character was cheap and lazy.

As far as Jodie goes, I don't have the same visceral dislike that you have Reg, but that's probably b/c I just don't care about her. She's always struck me as a decent person who preferred to keep her private life private. I took her dismissal of gay issues as a move that her publiscist devised to avoid her being embroiled in issues that would inevitably lead to closer scrutiny.

I don't think she was being dismissive of the potential for gay violence or that such violence is awful, rather she was being dismissive of the fact that people were making Silence out to be a homophobic movie.

I have wondered however how she reconciles Mel's virulent homophobia with her friendship.

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[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 2:22pm

I would presume that, similarly, she doesn't see it as having anything to do with her.

[tazber]

Posted: 9/22/10 at 2:26pm

That could be true. And a very "Hollywood" mindset at that.