#76
Posted: 7/14/11 at 4:02pm
Myself has a Clarice "Precious" Jones
Updated On: 7/14/11 at 04:02 PM
NETFLIX Raises Fees - Gives Birth to QWIKSTER - REVERSES DECISION! — Page 4
#77
Posted: 7/14/11 at 4:18pm
You keep that white bitch away from my Precious, Phyllis.
And go make me some pigs feet.
And go make me some pigs feet.
#78
Posted: 7/14/11 at 6:04pm
And I think that's part of what's making some people angry: The feeling that he's making that decision for them, without (as yet) bettering the service or selection.
Honestly, that's my biggest issue. This push to streaming isn't new at all. But not everyone is "up" on the latest technology. There are no blu-ray players or internet TVs in my house and watching on the computer isn't always comfortable. And I know I can't be the only person in that boat.
And then there's the issue that has been mentioned more than once - some movies are only available on DVD and some are only available for streaming. The only way to get the whole library is to have both.
Honestly, that's my biggest issue. This push to streaming isn't new at all. But not everyone is "up" on the latest technology. There are no blu-ray players or internet TVs in my house and watching on the computer isn't always comfortable. And I know I can't be the only person in that boat.
And then there's the issue that has been mentioned more than once - some movies are only available on DVD and some are only available for streaming. The only way to get the whole library is to have both.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#79
Posted: 7/14/11 at 6:35pm
Times are tight. I shoplifted a 10 piece this morning before school.
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#81
Posted: 7/14/11 at 6:50pm
No worries Jordan. I ended up honking it up into a waste basket since I was running from the po-po when I was eating the bucket.
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"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#82
Posted: 7/14/11 at 7:04pm
Mmmmm hmmmmm. Yeah girl, I know how that is.
#83
Posted: 7/14/11 at 7:31pm
Too bad some people wont see Mariah Carey with a mustache. REDBOX doesn't carry Precious.
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"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#84
Posted: 7/14/11 at 10:55pm
They did. You're just too slow.
And my library carries it now. Three copies. I can rent it any time for free.
And my library carries it now. Three copies. I can rent it any time for free.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#85
Posted: 7/14/11 at 11:21pm
Well uou have fun spending money on gas driving to the libary and renting it and back again to return it. I'm going to sit here and stream it. :-p
#86
Posted: 7/14/11 at 11:24pm
I dont like going to the liberry. Too many miscreants. My friend got HPV from a liberry book.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#87
Posted: 7/15/11 at 6:12am
"Well uou have fun spending money on gas driving to the libary ..."
I can walk it. It's four blocks away. Good exercise, too.
"I dont like going to the liberry. Too many miscreants. My friend got HPV from a liberry book."
Tell your friends not to lick the cover. That's never a good idea, no matter how much they like the book.
I can walk it. It's four blocks away. Good exercise, too.
"I dont like going to the liberry. Too many miscreants. My friend got HPV from a liberry book."
Tell your friends not to lick the cover. That's never a good idea, no matter how much they like the book.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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Updated On: 7/15/11 at 06:12 AM
#88
Posted: 7/15/11 at 8:14am
Just cancelled my account altogether, including streaming service. I can live without it.
Outrage Continues
Outrage Continues
#89
Posted: 7/15/11 at 8:40am
This continues to be hilarious to me. There wasn't this much outrage over the Casey Anthony verdict. LOL
And the whole IT'S SIXTY PERCENT!!!! thing is really laughable to me since they're talking about ten dollars. If they were raising your $400 car payment 60% well, I can see an outrage over that but this really does seem silly to me. And I'm unemployed and back taking classes again so I know how tight money is right now!
And the whole IT'S SIXTY PERCENT!!!! thing is really laughable to me since they're talking about ten dollars. If they were raising your $400 car payment 60% well, I can see an outrage over that but this really does seem silly to me. And I'm unemployed and back taking classes again so I know how tight money is right now!
#90
Posted: 7/15/11 at 8:53am
I'm completely at peace on the topic. It caused me to examine my usage and realize that I really didn't use the streaming--I literally never finished watching a streaming vid--and when we got 2 disks, they sat around for a week. So I ditched the streaming and went to 1 disk. If they increase the streaming content--and I'm sure they will--I might well re-up and pay whatever they want.
All that being said, I find the anger at other people's annoyance really, really odd. If you're not bothered, why do you care so much that other people are?
Why compare the hike to a car payment? It's really more like if movie tix went from $10 to $16. It's not on the scale of a car payment, but a lot of people would examine their movie-going habits.
All that being said, I find the anger at other people's annoyance really, really odd. If you're not bothered, why do you care so much that other people are?
Why compare the hike to a car payment? It's really more like if movie tix went from $10 to $16. It's not on the scale of a car payment, but a lot of people would examine their movie-going habits.
#91
Posted: 7/15/11 at 9:04am
I'm not in the least bothered by this. As I said earlier, it ends up working out positively for me. But I do get the 60% argument. To me it's not so much about the 60% of $10 issue. It's more about the idea that Netflix has potentially increased their company profits by 60% in one fell swoop. And in these hard times, when I'm already suspect of large corporations sucking up the wealth from the lower & middle classes with the help of our Republican friends in Congress, I wonder if this company, which is apparently doing well as it is (if figures stated in this thread are correct) really needs to increase their profits by 60%. Sure, it's America and they can try if they want to. But I do understand the light in which some folks will see such a move.
Art has a double face, of expression and illusion.
Updated On: 7/15/11 at 09:04 AM
#92
Posted: 7/15/11 at 9:19am
To me the annoyance is more that I find the majority of it to be false outrage by people who want something to be outraged about. I'm sure there are PUH-LENTY of people legitimately pissed at the company but looking at that facebook page and the comments, it's really just funny to me.
"I'm gonna cancel my netflix subscription and get a subscription to Amazon and start renting at Redbox!"
So by that logic, you'll be spending the money you would be spending on Netflix and getting and giving it to Amazon and the additional money Netflix now charges you'll be giving to Redbox? And let's be honest here, Redbox is $1 a night but just like normal video store rentals the majority do not keep them for just one night.
Or even those who say they'll just use redbox. Redbox has maybe 100 movies in it at any given time. If you want to cancel your subscription where you have access to pretty much every single movie on dvd and bluray so you can use a kiosk where your chances of getting anything more than 6 months old is slim to none, I say more power to you. Because the reality of the situation is that a whole lot of these people will rejoin sooner rather than later. Because you can get all your movies from one place or you can search the library, redbox, blockbuster express, a video store 20 miles away from you or just log on to the big bad netflix and get it right away.
Again, it's convenience.
I'm clearly in the (vocal) minority on this subject but I'll reiterate, I'm not angry at people being annoyed. I'm amused by it. And I'm sure a lot of that has to do with, as I said before, my having dealt with this for so long already.
"I'm gonna cancel my netflix subscription and get a subscription to Amazon and start renting at Redbox!"
So by that logic, you'll be spending the money you would be spending on Netflix and getting and giving it to Amazon and the additional money Netflix now charges you'll be giving to Redbox? And let's be honest here, Redbox is $1 a night but just like normal video store rentals the majority do not keep them for just one night.
Or even those who say they'll just use redbox. Redbox has maybe 100 movies in it at any given time. If you want to cancel your subscription where you have access to pretty much every single movie on dvd and bluray so you can use a kiosk where your chances of getting anything more than 6 months old is slim to none, I say more power to you. Because the reality of the situation is that a whole lot of these people will rejoin sooner rather than later. Because you can get all your movies from one place or you can search the library, redbox, blockbuster express, a video store 20 miles away from you or just log on to the big bad netflix and get it right away.
Again, it's convenience.
I'm clearly in the (vocal) minority on this subject but I'll reiterate, I'm not angry at people being annoyed. I'm amused by it. And I'm sure a lot of that has to do with, as I said before, my having dealt with this for so long already.
#93
Posted: 7/15/11 at 9:27am
They sound fine with the fact that they are going to lose some business over this decision. They expect that.
What that says to me is they are focusing on streaming and charging more for it. Right now, they have a limited selection of titles, with so-so technology for streaming (really compressed) HD content. And it's a lot of bandwidth and servers to manage.
Charging more and cutting back on subscribers, while they work on all the technical issues (which should take about 10 years to fully iron out), is a good business decision. They will be golden in the long run, offering more movies to more people at better quality with protected servers and manageable bandwidth (which will all be fiber optics by then). And all at higher prices.
if they kept things cheap and just kept adding people, they're not going to get ahead with the technology. They'll spend all their time and energy putting out fires and scrambling to serve their large customer base and just "maintain" it all. They would be focusing merely on the short-term volume instead of taking a long-term lead in the industry. Eventually, streaming will be as good as hard-copy media including Blu-ray Discs. It's a long way off from that now, but it's coming. And when it does, and when they have a full library of available titles, and fewer technical and hacking issues, they will win the game.
What that says to me is they are focusing on streaming and charging more for it. Right now, they have a limited selection of titles, with so-so technology for streaming (really compressed) HD content. And it's a lot of bandwidth and servers to manage.
Charging more and cutting back on subscribers, while they work on all the technical issues (which should take about 10 years to fully iron out), is a good business decision. They will be golden in the long run, offering more movies to more people at better quality with protected servers and manageable bandwidth (which will all be fiber optics by then). And all at higher prices.
if they kept things cheap and just kept adding people, they're not going to get ahead with the technology. They'll spend all their time and energy putting out fires and scrambling to serve their large customer base and just "maintain" it all. They would be focusing merely on the short-term volume instead of taking a long-term lead in the industry. Eventually, streaming will be as good as hard-copy media including Blu-ray Discs. It's a long way off from that now, but it's coming. And when it does, and when they have a full library of available titles, and fewer technical and hacking issues, they will win the game.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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Updated On: 7/15/11 at 09:27 AM
#94
Posted: 7/15/11 at 10:08am
I think you're right. But for them to win the game, they need to stay the only game in town. That's the only downside I see to their (possibly) losing a lot of subscribers at this point.
Updated On: 7/15/11 at 10:08 AM
#95
Posted: 7/15/11 at 10:39am
I think they'll probably lose more subscribers than they thought.
And their real arrogance in this long-term planning is to think their competitors aren't already planning to do exactly the same thing.
Amazon, iTunes, Hulu, Yahoo, and new services we haven't even heard of yet.
I'm not sure their strategy will pay off, but I understand what they're doing. And at this point, as you say, they own the market.
One of the biggest races going on right now is in the cabling, via fiber optics. AT&T has the big advantage right now with U-Verse. But access to these "super cables" that will allow the large bandwidth needed to stream high quality picture and sound (not just HD crap compression) is going to be a big component in who wins this race.
I'm guessing eventually it will lead to several antitrust law suits, akin to the accusations of a "monopoly" when the studios owned their own movie theatres. The supreme courts said they couldn't do that.
So who owns the lines and how they are shared or licensed is as important as who has the best/most content available.
And their real arrogance in this long-term planning is to think their competitors aren't already planning to do exactly the same thing.
Amazon, iTunes, Hulu, Yahoo, and new services we haven't even heard of yet.
I'm not sure their strategy will pay off, but I understand what they're doing. And at this point, as you say, they own the market.
One of the biggest races going on right now is in the cabling, via fiber optics. AT&T has the big advantage right now with U-Verse. But access to these "super cables" that will allow the large bandwidth needed to stream high quality picture and sound (not just HD crap compression) is going to be a big component in who wins this race.
I'm guessing eventually it will lead to several antitrust law suits, akin to the accusations of a "monopoly" when the studios owned their own movie theatres. The supreme courts said they couldn't do that.
So who owns the lines and how they are shared or licensed is as important as who has the best/most content available.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#96
Posted: 7/15/11 at 1:33pm
"I think they'll probably lose more subscribers than they thought"
Actually, I think the opposite-they wont lose as many as we think. I think this incident will be a blip. People LOVEEEEEE to bitch and once they do I think they do, they will be over it and cough up the cash rather than change their habits.
Once people realize they don't know where they will go instead, they will just suck it up and stay with NETFLIX. If another company pops up and had similar cheaper plans to offer then NETFLIX might have something to worry about.
People (especially those who watch a ton of TV and movies) tend to be incredibly apathetic, lazy and bitch alot. I know this for a fact-I worked at Blockbuster for 7 years during college and grad school.
NETFLIX isn't sweating.
Actually, I think the opposite-they wont lose as many as we think. I think this incident will be a blip. People LOVEEEEEE to bitch and once they do I think they do, they will be over it and cough up the cash rather than change their habits.
Once people realize they don't know where they will go instead, they will just suck it up and stay with NETFLIX. If another company pops up and had similar cheaper plans to offer then NETFLIX might have something to worry about.
People (especially those who watch a ton of TV and movies) tend to be incredibly apathetic, lazy and bitch alot. I know this for a fact-I worked at Blockbuster for 7 years during college and grad school.
NETFLIX isn't sweating.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#97
Posted: 7/15/11 at 1:36pm
Betty, you're an ex BBV employee as well???
#98
Posted: 7/15/11 at 9:01pm
Yes Jordan from a part-time CSR to full-time Assistant Manager. Back when it was cooolllll to work in a video store. hahahahaha
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#99
Posted: 7/15/11 at 9:18pm
I'm not joining in the "outrage" people are expressing, but it has caused me to examine my usage of the service and I will be dropping the DVD portion and going down to streaming only. I know the selection isn't as good for that option, but I realized I'll often let a DVD sit for several days at a time, or longer, before I watch it, and use the streaming option several times during that period. Plus, since I may be going back on the road in the fall, trying to keep the DVDs following me will just end up being a pain in the ass. So thank you Netflix for raising prices and actually getting me to switch to a more cost-effective plan for myself.
#100
Posted: 7/15/11 at 9:44pm
AEA, that was exactly my experience (except the opposite choice).
The one thing I'll agree with Bettyboy about: people are lazy, including me. I gave it some thought and made a better decision.
Not that it's a lot of money, but it encouraged me to focus on it and make a change. I may very well make a different decision if my needs, or their services, change.
It will be interesting to see if anyone steps into the breach before Netflix has gotten their streaming audience--and their streaming technology--all where they want them.
The one thing I'll agree with Bettyboy about: people are lazy, including me. I gave it some thought and made a better decision.
Not that it's a lot of money, but it encouraged me to focus on it and make a change. I may very well make a different decision if my needs, or their services, change.
It will be interesting to see if anyone steps into the breach before Netflix has gotten their streaming audience--and their streaming technology--all where they want them.
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