Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
If you're a cigarette smoker in NYC, get out your dark sunglasses, fedora hat and overcoat and prepare to be treated like you're buying porn.
"Specifically, the legislation “would require that tobacco products be stored out of public view, except during a purchase by an adult consumer or restocking and allow tobacco products to be kept in cabinets, drawers, under the counter, behind a curtain or in any other concealed location,” according to the mayor’s office."
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Your Nanny should have put you in a basket in a river and let it do what it wanted with you.
It's not like smokers browse the wares. You go in and ask for what you want anyway.
Did Moses die? No. It just carried him off far away from where he was. And I'd like something to carry Goth off far away from where he is now. Near technology. Or people.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
People definitely shouldn't be shamed for buying porn.
Sure they should! They should KNOW how to get it for free on the 'puter!
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
"People definitely shouldn't be shamed for buying porn."
Free Pee Wee!!
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
Seriously, who the hell goes to a store to buy porn nowadays anyway. That's what God created the internet for (and porn labels are reporting that DVD sales are indeed slowing, so much for the recession proof industry).
Ah but the member sites are still booming! Most of the porn labels have gone into streamig and downloading. DVDs and CDs are quickly becoming the cassette tapes of the early 21st Century
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Broadway Legend Joined: 8/12/09
Call me old fashioned, but I still buy DVD porn. Sure it's cheap porn (Like hell I'll spend $50+ for something I can get for free).
After working at a sex shop for 2+ years, I can say that yes, many people still buy porn. My roommate's name is Pete, and he runs a porn distribution company. While the actors don't make a lot of money, the producers make bank.
(I'll give you a dollar if you can PM me Pete's website and company. Or if you know the porn companies he distributes.)
With the ciggies, now he's gone way over the top. At first I thought the soda thing was just silly, but he's on a roll now and he must stop. What's next, candy? People become obese by eating candy too. Limit the soda, hide the ciggies, candy, porn, twinkies - oh, no more twinkies, hide the LIttle Debbies, chips, beef jerky, ice cream, everything GOOD, lol!
Well, then the question is should the government be telling us what we can do to ourselves? Does this attempt to obstruct our freedom? Yes, I know we can still decide to have these things in our life, but isn't this taking a step to make it more difficult, and should it be more difficult?
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
What will happen to the small bodegas and newstands in NYC that don't have the room to "hide" the cigarettes. Are they supposed to go out of business?
Do you see how all these silly regulations hurt businesses?
Well, I think with the cigarettes, it's more of an "Out of sight out of mind" approach. Of course kids will still see people smoking and advertisements, but keeping them out of view where they can actually be purchased is a way to possibly cut down on them buying them.
Of course if you really want them, all you have to do is ask. It's not "shaming" anyone, as the idiots like Goth will make themselves believe. They're not saying if you ask for them, the clerk needs to read you a list of diseases you could get from them. The same way you do now. The only thing that he wants changed is that they're not in display.
"The only thing that he wants changed is that they're not in display."
Yes, that's what I have an issue with. (Kids can't buy cigarettes anyway.)
And Goth's statement above is ridiculous.
Goth's statements are always ridiculous.
And like I said before, I think he's trying an "out of sight out of mind" approach. And right or wrong, it's "something".
"And like I said before, I think he's trying an "out of sight out of mind" approach. And right or wrong, it's "something".
Yes, I know what you're saying. By your saying it's "something", are you condoning it? I think that's what the issue is- do we condone this action or not?
I do not.
Oh ok sorry. For me personally, I guess I condone it. And by that, I mean I don't mind that he's doing this at all.
ok, thanks! Anyone else want to give their opinion?
I guess my issue with this is, with all of the problems that happen in this city (MTA fare increases, violence, muggings, unemployment, barely-able-to-afford rent) THESE are the things the Mayor chooses to focus on???
Well, I would reply that it is possible to focus on more than one thing at a time, and that the other issues you mentioned are not being ignored. This one particular issue has just appeared and is bringing controversy at the moment.
Back to the ciggies - Bloomberg plans to apply fines with this new idea, so he will collect. Also, cigarettes are legal and are part of commerce and major income for many stores. Can he interfere with commerce?
Jane, he's not saying you can't buy cigarettes though. And good for him for collecting more money from them anyway that he can. How much does the country/state pay out for cigarette related illnesses each year?
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