"Pretty sneaky, sis!"
This beats the sh*t out of Connect Four!
It sounds like you are living in a pretty crappy environment where your privacy is not respected and a potentially violent dad. My thoughts are with you....you'll find a way. How soon 'til you're eighteen?
I think he said he's 19.
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As a former sneaky sister, I just want to say that maybe your sister wasn't trying to hurt you by snooping. My brother is two years older than me, so we were pretty close when we were young. As we became teenagers, though, we started spending a lot less time together, and he started to keep the details of his life private. So, I started snooping in his room and reading his love notes, just to see what was going on in his life. It was never my intention to pass all of the information I found to my parents - or anyone else for that matter. I just missed my big brother and was curious about his life.
I don't know your sister or the rest of the details about your life, but that's my story. I don't have much else to add, since I've never gone through what you're going through. Nevertheless, I'll be thinking of you and wishing you a peaceful and healthy resolution.
Clumsy- Jane2 said what I would have said and she said it so eloquently. If you were my son, I would love you anyway and accept you for who you are and then I would talk to your sister to help her understand her actions as well. Good luck. mom
When it comes to difficult family stuff, what is it, really, that your family can do to you? What do you have to fear, here? If you're worried about your father, is there anyone who can be there with you? Friend, counselor, priest, etc.? Some neutral party. Because your family sounds like it has problems that have nothing to do with you.
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I think supportivemom just said that you could live with her...so there's your backup!
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"what is it, really, that your family can do to you?"
Quite a bit, if he's still dependent - and especially if his father IS abusive.
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Yeah, that's why it's always tricky to come out if there's still financial dependence, and why Joe's advice isn't that outlandish.
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I didn't find Joe's advice outlandish at all. I've been in this situation, and sometimes survival needs to be the primary goal.
I agree that Joe has offered sound advice. We all want to be out and proud and make everyone deal with it. But, when it comes to safety, do watcha gotta till you can get out and support yourself.
although, my aunt should know, she is always with me and has seen me around people and how I act so I assume she knows
Just curious...how do gay people act? I want to make sure I can spot them in their natural habitat.
Sorry you're having to deal with this.
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Just curious...how do gay people act? I want to make sure I can spot them in their natural habitat
They watch Legally Blonde when they are down and they declare their love for Cheyenne Jackson in their signature lines. :)
Hmmm....that doesn't really narrow it down around here.
I personally want to thank all of for your advice and stories and everything. Jane2 and supportivemom, your posts made me cry, they truly touched me and made feel like there are people out there who do care about this sensetive issue in a good light. Thank you, you two are wonderful people and supportivemom, your children are very luck to have you.
My father has been abusive in the past, he has hit, belittled and made me feel like I am worthless. I am lucky to have musicals to escape to, when I'm down or upset I just sing a quiet little verse or two from a musical that I enjoy and I start to feel better. I am not dependent fianacial on him, I have a part time job and my aunt and grandpa have been offering me housing for awhile and they know how he can be. So, they are fully my back up plan. I just actually called my aunt and unfournately I was unable to actually speak to her, but I left her a voicemail [too cowardly?] and spoke my mind. So, she is IN THE KNOW. So, now, the biggest challenge is yet to come. My sister is not like the way SueleenGay commented, my entire family has issues with my father, were currently going through fiancial crap and he seems bi-polar sometimes and can flip from sort of calm and happy to flipping out. I am greatful for all the posts this has recieved.
I can't hide how I am, I have been on dates with girls, but I just can't hide like that, to me, it's too much to sacarfice. I just want them to know and be able to move on, my father, I have a feeling will end up resenting me till he dies, but I don't care. I gotta live my life, and be me. I can't do what I have been doing for months now, supressing and hiding.
I officially love Phyllis Rogers Stone for this: "They watch Legally Blonde when they are down and they declare their love for Cheyenne Jackson in their signature lines. :)"
One adult down, two to go.
Hope you feel better--we're not so bad...but we will still make fun of you for WICKED.
And I'm glad to hear you don't want to date girls--I never did and see how happy I am! (?)
CD - I cannot add much of anything to what has been said on this thread.
I will keep a good thought for you, and hope you find yourself in a stronger, safer and more healthy relationship with your family.
It honestly sounds as if your father would find something to belittle you about no matter the situation. Whether it be that you are too bookish, too dumb, to edgy, too into music, or, that you are gay, he would find something to demonstrate how you are not good enough. Which, from reading your posts on this thread, is clearly not the case. You sound like a thoughtful, intelligent, articulate young man, who lives with a miserable SOB that is unwilling or unable to recognize the gift in front of him.
He must be one very unhappy man.
Hopefully your aunt/grandparents can provide you the support and safety that will allow you to grow and mature.
Keep us posted.
Hey now. Wicked is like OMIGOD the best thing EVERRRRR!
I think loving Company makes up for Wicked, don't you think?
YouWantitWhen????: He is very unhappy, and I can see that.
I thank you for your kind words.
He has never apperciated me.
He came to my shows and stuff in school, and always CLAIMED he was proud of me, but I knew he would have been prouder had I scored a touchdown playing football or been more jockish like my brother.
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Clumsy - not everyone hates WICKED - not even all gay men
Oh, DG. Your just jealous you can't DEFY GRAVITY.
It's a good thing you have a plan B. You have nothing to lose though, by talking to your sister and trying to appeal to her sisterly love ! Be honest with her and tell her of all the dangers facing you if she talks ! Put her in a position of power and make her face a situation of you gone and not ever speaking to her again ! Remind her of the good times you two have had and promise her you'll always be at her side, because there's bound to be a time she'll need your cover, too ! Appeal to her good self and make this a big secret only for the two of you ! Unless she is a completely evil brat she will side with you ! And even if she doesn't, you have nothing to lose !
Clumsy - I'm sending up a prayer and sending you a hug and confirmation that life can be all you want it to be even after a rocky childhood.
When I was your age I use to chant "I like life enough to see it through" (Thanks Bernie and Elton)
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Clumsy I am glad you've got a back up plan- if need be, go to your aunt's or Grandma's. I didn't know he'd already been violent toward you- I'd make plans to get out ASAP. If he does turn violent CALL THE POLICE. Remember saftey first.
Call your local gay service agency- is there one in your area? They can probably help you in a myriad of ways- resources, advice, even counseling for you and/or your family.
And while I agree with the transformitve power of Broadway, there are some thing musicals CAN'T fix.
Yeah, Plan B is key. I am more concerned with my mother than anyone else, just because she is my mother, and I think it will hurt her more than my father. I will also make sure if she tells him, I will be out of the house and far away from the house when she does so. I doubt she'd tell him, she knows how he can be, and if she even sensed he'd do anything, which he would probably flip out, her maternal side would kick in and protect.
you know what, the way you're describing your father he's just looking for an excuse to fly off the handle. If it wasn't this it would be something else.
Plan B may end up being the most healthy thing for you.
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