The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part nine- Page 135

[Dramatic_Irony]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 6:28pm

Well, you pay (for) it, and it responds to you....

I named my iPod after a Pacman creature.

[gertrudejessalynn]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 6:28pm

Heh, Sarah. I'm about to name my computer "Blue" for... blue screen of death... not a good sign.

On a happy note, I bought the Jesus Christ Superstar movie for $1 at the local library.

[Mandi Moo]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 6:29pm

Nooo! Blue screen of death?

[CanadianSnowbird]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 6:29pm

Aww. Blue screens suck.

I figured I'd abuse them, so the names kinda fit.

[gertrudejessalynn]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 6:31pm

*EVERY* time I run Ad-Aware, I get the blue screen of death.

I need to do stuff that I don't know how to do, and bleh. Damnit.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:04pm

Has anyone else listened to the Adam Pascal Band (I stil can't get over that name!) demo songs yet? He sounds good, as always, but I didn't care for them too much.

I wonder if this earlier sound is his favorite and his music became mellower on his solo albums because his earlier efforts weren't a success, or if where he is now musically is simply a product of the passing of time. Perhaps it's a bit of both.

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:08pm

The APB demos are also my least favorite of his recordings. I think he was just still finding his way. It would be interesting to find out what other songs were in his sets in those days. There's a song called Mesmerized that some people regret was never recorded, though I'm not sure if it was part of that period or not.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:11pm

The three songs just seem uninspired to me. There's nothing there that really keeps me listening.

I believe Mesmerized was played at some of the Model Prisoner shows, although it could have originated with APB.

ETA: If you're really interested in his older sets, you could probably email the owner of that "Adam Pascal Archives" site. It seems as if she went to a lot of the shows, and I'm sure she still remembers some of her experiences. Updated On: 4/18/06 at 08:11 PM

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:17pm

That's a good idea.

It feels to me as if Adam was doing what he thought he "should" do musically, rather than what he really wanted to do. Maybe he simply needed someone to give him a nudge in the right direction. Model Prisoner is certainly a huge step to have taken in only a couple of years.

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:53pm

If you don't mind, I'd like to take a step back to last night's discussion of Daphne's podcast. Here's exactly what was said, after the interviewer mentions Taye and Idina getting together:

Interviewer: And I was talking to Anthony, and I was like, “So Anthony, anything else go on behind the scenes? [Daphne laughs] Were there any other romances, any other hook-ups?” and he said there was some stuff that went on but he couldn’t tell me, [Daphne laughs] so I’m asking you to tell me.

Daphne: Oh well, you know, people fall in love, it’s the oldest trick in the book, and we were no exception. We were crazy about each other.

Here's how it strikes me - it feels a little more personal than as if she were talking about the group as a whole and various hook-ups that occurred, though that still might be the case. I almost get the impression that she's assuming Anthony mentioned her and Adam but wouldn't give any details about it. Just the fact that she says "we were crazy about each other" rather than "we were *all* crazy about each other" gives me that feeling.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:05pm

Honestly, I don't really know anymore. It's so hard to infer what exactly she was thinking or assuming just based on a few sentences and vocal inflection. I don't really know why Daphne would have cause to assume that Anthony mentioned anything between her and Adam -- he didn't mention any sort of romantic involvement between them in his book and, after all, the interviewer did state that he wouldn't say anything. Then again, I think you're definitely right in saying that her statement seems a bit personal. Overall, it just seems very hard to judge.

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:13pm

Yes, it's definitely ambiguous. The only reason I think she could have misunderstood was that she was laughing over a lot of what the interviewer said. I don't know why I like the idea that she and Adam did have something going on so much, but for some reason it appeals to me.

Here's something else I was thinking about. Knowing Long Island as I do, unless Adam's family was pretty unusual, getting involved with Rent and theater in general must have come as quite a culture shock. That's another question I'd love to hear him address.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:14pm

I have to agree with Chloe on this... based on that, it seems like she could very well be talking about herself and Adam. I thought the same thing about "we were crazy about each other" as opposed to "we were all" But I think it's also true that it's really fuzzy and it's hard to make inferences about these things based on a rather coyly-answered interview question.

[KiminVA]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:18pm

Chloe, I'm with you-- that's what I got from it as well. Kudos to Daphne, though-- she somehow managed to answer the question and dodge it at the same time, intentional or not. Now there's a talent!

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:24pm

Oh, I wasn't trying to disagree per se with you, Chloe. I just really couldn't draw any conclusions at all. She did seem to laugh over a lot of what the interviewer said, and you're right in that it may have caused her to mishear what she said. I suppose it could also be a sign of nerves/uncomfortableness regarding the topic as well.

I agree that it's strangely appealing to think they had some sort of a relationship, although it must have been relatively short considering they both met their now-spouses during their times with Rent (I think).

Chloe, I'm not sure if I know exactly what you're referring to with your Long Island statement. Can you elaborate a bit more?

[Magical_Ms._Mistoffeles_72]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:30pm

Adam! Sigh

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:31pm

Right, siren (sorry, I forgot your real name), that comment really stuck out. Kim, I hadn't thought of it that way, but she certainly covered herself with that answer, not even using any names.

What I meant about Long Island, is that it's quite conservative and somewhat anti-intellectual and anti-arts, in the way that a lot of suburban America is. (By the way, Hicksville is on LI.) Also, Adam strikes me as having grown up as quite a "guy" guy, into smoking and dirt bikes and heavy metal. That makes me wonder what he thought of it all when he first came across the bohemians in both Rent and the rehearsal room.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:39pm

Thanks! I assumed that it was something along those lines, but I'm not very familiar with Long Island. I'd be interested in hearing what he has to say on that issue as well. I don't really know anything about heavy metal culture in the early 90s, either -- did it perpetrate that "manly man" image? I'd assume that the people going to his shows couldn't have been all too conservative, but again, I don't have any real idea.

On a lighter note, did Adam ever really express a love for dirt bikes or were you just listing things that fit with the common stereotype? That image is hilarious.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:42pm

I think he did once mention dirt bikes.

[Billboard Girl]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:45pm

Adam on a dirt bike? That's a hilarious mental image.

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:49pm

Isn't it? I don't know a lot about heavy metal either (and I think Adam has talked a lot about '80's bands influencing him), but my general impression is of machismo. While it's not particularly conservative, I don't think heavy metal would have prepared Adam for the theater any more than a LI upbringing would have.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:59pm

Probably, Chloe. I don't have any real idea. I think it's also important to keep in mind images vs. reality -- was he putting on a show in order to fit in with the image he wanted to portray or was that the way he truly wanted to act?

On a different note, I'm not sure if heavy metal ever had a true presence in the 90s! I think the more Seattle-based bands (or Seattle-influenced, grunge bands) came in with the 90s (Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins -- my kind of music ), which probably didn't help Mute's chances of being signed either. From what I've heard, I don't think they were some sort of absolutely amazing band, but I believe heavy metal was kind of on its way out by '93/'94 anyway.

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 10:05pm

It doesn't seem like Mute was purely heavy metal either, but I'm somewhat fuzzy on the 80's/90's genres. There's a relevant quote in one of Adam's interviews for the tour:

"It was a dream of mine, growing up in the '80s, when being in a rock band looked like the most fun in the world," he said. "L.A. was the scene in the early '80s, and it couldn't be more the opposite of what Seattle was. Seattle was about the brooding rock and roll guys; this was like, "How high can you spray up your hair? How drunk and stupid can you get?'

"It was hedonism as rock 'n' roll," he added. "And as a young kid, that looked fun!"

ETA: Even then, it was all about the hair, it seems!
Updated On: 4/18/06 at 10:05 PM

Posted: 4/18/06 at 10:13pm

LOL, Chloe!

I suppose I'd categorize Mute as heavy metal more than anything else, but I think it has somewhat of a dose of grunge in there as well, along with what would be called "emo" today.

I miss the daily Adam "news."

[Chloe]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 10:28pm

Me too. The anniversary show is coming up, but after that it's looking like a pretty heavy drought. I suppose he'll either be working on his album or dealing with moving at least until the fall.

Getting back to why I brought all this up, I just wonder whether Adam was freaked out by the crazy theater people and gay men, or whether he took all that in stride. Either one is possible.