clinton vs. sanders your vote? — Page 140

The narrative will really change once Sanders throws his support behind Clinton. That will also free Elizabeth Warren to be a real surrogate, and not have to rely on Twitter wars.

Apparently wasting hard earned money does not matter in some instances.

PalJoey said: "It's all about "the movement"...in other words, a cranky old man's ego."

No it isn't.

The Democratic Platform Committee Now Has a Progressive Majority. Thanks, Bernie Sanders.

Sanders adds Keith Ellison, Cornel West, and Bill McKibben to a committee that also includes progressives Elijah Cummings and Barbara Lee.

http://www.thenation.com/article/sanders-picks-and-allies-could-write-a-boldly-progressive-platform/

As a Jersey boy, I'm happy to have a say, and will pull that lever for Clinton on June 7th.

CNN: State Department report slams Clinton email use

Only the lemmings in the media believe the inspector general's report says anything damning about Clinton. If anything, it's damning about the State Department itself. The Politico article about the inspector general's report says:

...the report concludes that the agency suffers from '"longstanding, systemic weaknesses'" with records that "go well beyond the tenure of any one Secretary of State”...it also notes widespread email issues across the tenures of five secretaries of state, not just Clinton.

Are we going to jail every secretary of State since Madeleine Albright? Including John Kerry? And the Washington Post article says that the report...

...was particularly critical of former secretary of state Colin Powell — who has acknowledged publicly that he used his personal laptop to write emails — concluding that he too failed to follow department policy designed to comply with public-record laws.

Whaddya gonna do? Arrest him too?

I'm not sure if your rhetorical question was directed at me or not. I have never suggested she should be arrested (a bit dramatic, no?) nor that the email "scandal" is the smoking gun to the Clinton's widespread and system corruption. Her questionable dealings as Secretary of State, including the meddling of VCS Mining in Haiti and Boeing Corp. in Russia, are substantial enough for me. I was merely sharing the results of the extensive AG report. Of course this development won't impact a diehard Hillarybot such as yourself. It may, however, factor in for others -- like independent women, whom she does terribly with -- when heading to the ballots.

Forget it Erik. he's a vile, cranky, old......

I... really don't get the issue with the Email. It's not like she did it behind anyone's back. She had a private Email server since the beginning and if this was a problem why was it not addressed... 8 years ago? Surely would of snuffed out any "issues" they're trying to claim it caused.

If Bernie were to do this, he would destroy his movement. He would be finished in the Senate and American politics. And he would prove that all he ever was is the Left's Donald Trump and that all he ever wanted was publicity.

I'm not glad our serious issues amuse you. Why don't you start a thread on Australian politics so we can all go troll you the way you troll us?

Trump might go for this, thinking he and Sanders would tag-team Clinton with no opposition. Sanders might find himself defending Clinton, as well as the Democratic party. It would be a lose-lose scenario. Bernie's desperation and ambition might just overcome his political judgment here, and it's obvious he's not getting competent political advice, so I wouldn't rule this out. It would be a fiasco.

PalJoey said: "

If Bernie were to do this, he would destroy his movement. He would be finished in the Senate and American politics. And he would prove that all he ever was is the Left's Donald Trump and that all he ever wanted was publicity.

I'm not glad our serious issues amuse you. Why don't you start a thread on Australian politics so we can all go troll you the way you troll us?





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Sorry but I don't buy this. Sanders will have a chance to talk about the serious issues/his vision for America to his largest audience yet - I don't see how that will destroy his movement. It will only help it grow stronger. If he does well, it could also be a positive thing for Hillary Clinton (as someone mentioned) - showing how progressive ideas are better than Trump's ideas, and convincing the people to vote for the Democratic party rather than the Republican party. At the end of the day, despite all the discussion in this thread, despite Hillary's policy flip flopping, voting record and donors - Hillary's overall vision, values and policy positions are at a high level consistent with Bernie's vision (e.g., higher minimum wage; accessible education; better health care coverage) - Bernie would be fighting for the same side as Hillary in a Sanders vs Trump debate. It may be helpful.