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See wee Barney!
If Bernie is elected, he promises that the cafeteria will have Pizza EVERY DAY, hot tubs in the quad and no homework over the weekends!!!
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And he loves the hot young sounds of today such as that Simon Garfunkel! Go Barnum!
Jordan Catalano said: "A great campaign commercial for Clinton should just be a montage of everytime Sanders says "she's right".
A great campaign commercial for Sanders would be a montage of all the issues Clinton has flipped flopped on to be more in line with Sanders.
That was a fantastic debate last night. Both were very strong, and full marks to Maddow and Todd for not getting in the way.
Bernie had an assembly in the gym this morning and promised that if he's elected class president, everyone will get free ice cream every day and the principal will pay for it!
Thanks for the levity, Jordan. I live & work inside the capital beltway echo chamber. There seems to be no escape from Sanders vs Hillary or the GOP clown show in my hood.
Sanders Closes Huge Gap to Tie Clinton Nationally
February 5, 2016 | 12:00 pm
"Hillary Clinton has another near-tie on her hands.
A new Quinnipiac University poll shows her in a virtual dead heat with Sen. Bernie Sanders nationally, at 44-42 percent (well within the poll's 2.9 percent margin of error). The poll represents a major slide for Clinton over the last few months; she held a 31-point lead against Sanders in the same poll back in December.
The poll was conducted from Feb. 2-4 and is the first national survey of the race since Clinton narrowly defeated Sanders in Iowa, a contest that he has referred to as "a virtual tie." The Iowa race proved Sanders' ability to turn the excitement around his candidacy and large attendance at rallies into actual votes.
The New Hampshire primary, in which Sanders has a sizeable lead, is just five days away and could provide another boost to his campaign.
The new national poll also shows Sanders performing more strongly than Clinton in the general election -- though that contest is months away and much could change before November. The survey shows Sanders defeating Donald Trump by 10 points, Sen. Ted Cruz by four points and tying with Sen. Marco Rubio, who is also gaining ground nationally as establishment Republicans try to coalesce around him as a Cruz or Trump alternative.
Clinton, by contrast, would defeat Trump by 5 points, according to the poll, but ties with Cruz and loses to Rubio by 7 points.
https://news.vice.com/article/sanders-closes-huge-gap-to-tie-clinton-nationally
Updated On: 2/5/16 at 02:14 PM
I think it's time to start discussing plausible running mates for Hillary and Bernie. I haven't a clue as to a good pairing for either at this point. Any thoughts?
IMHO in principal, a Rubio-Kasich ticket would present an electoral college challenge for either Hillary or Bernie. I sense that Kasich is in it at this point for a VP slot. It'll be interesting to see whom he endorses once he bows out gracefully after the NV primary. Earlier this year several pragmatic GOP operatives were salivating over a Kasich-Rubio ticket but I never never thought of Kasich as an ideal top of the ticket kind of guy.
To his credit, Kasich was smart enough to expand Medicaid through Obamacare in OH which sets him apart from the party frontruners. Unfortunately that move makes Rubio and him polar opposites with respect to the ACA. My take on it is that if Rubio has any serious aspirations for the office of POTUS, he'll dial down the anti-ACA rhetoric and do a deal with Kasich like yesterday. The GOP needs Kasich on the ticket mainly because Trump and Cruz are general election toxins, and Rubio doesn't enjoy the support of either Hillary or Bernie on the other side. In the GE, Kasich would be a huge asset to the party in OH, PA, VA, and NC.
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I think Julian Castro would be a good choice for a running mate. My dream ticket is Sanders/Warren, but that's pretty unlikely.
Updated On: 2/5/16 at 08:18 PM
"My dream ticket is Sanders/Warren, but that's pretty unlikely."
I keep seeing people say this and I honestly don't understand it. I think both Sanders and Warren are amazing Senators, and that is where we need them most. How does pulling out two of the strongest liberal voices in the Senate, two voices that are very much needed there make sense. If Sanders gets the nomination I hope Warren has the good sense to stay put, because we need her right where she is.
Lavieboheme3090 said: ""My dream ticket is Sanders/Warren, but that's pretty unlikely."
I keep seeing people say this and I honestly don't understand it. I think both Sanders and Warren are amazing Senators, and that is where we need them most. How does pulling out two of the strongest liberal voices in the Senate, two voices that are very much needed there make sense. If Sanders gets the nomination I hope Warren has the good sense to stay put, because we need her right where she is. "
Agree 100%. I think it comes from this strangely myopic view we have on presidential politics in this country. The amount of attention the presidency receives is really disproportionate to the President's true power - especially his/her domestic power and especially his/her domestic economic power. Not to mention a VP. Do people calling for Warren as VP genuinely think a VP is going to have more power and more effectiveness than a very popular and influential senator? As for the presidency itself, let's be honest, beyond appointing federal justices and not starting another goddamn war, the President's greatest domestic role is influencer-in-chief. Which, yes, is important, but doesn't exactly change everything in the nation from the top down. It's fabulous that younger voters have been so energized by Bernie's campaign and whether they vote for him or for Hillary, if they remain completely disengaged from state legislature, governor and federal congressional races, and leave those elections to old, conservative people, then very little of Bernie's "revolution" or any meaningful amount of Hillary's "pragmatic progress" is going to happen.
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I admit I was being too idealistic and not even thinking about about that, but you're right. I do think Castro would be a very smart choice for either Hillary or Bernie.
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So, Madeline Albright, former professional genocide enabler, is out on the campaign trail criticizing Bernie's foreign policy chops. Which, you know, is smart politics. Certainly can't blame Hillary for pulling out the big guns and hitting Bernie on his perceived weaknesses. But, then, this...? Ugh. I don't know how a statement like this is going to attract young, female voters.
After watching the televised GOP debate from NH last night, I wish the Dems had someone like Kasich in the mix. But, Hillary still gets my vote.
Poor Marco Rubio comes off like a high schooler responding to questions before a scholarship committee.
Bernie just told all the BernieBros to cut the crap:
What's it going to do to the Clinton campaign when Sanders starts doing rallies in big cities and his crowds are 4-5 times larger?
What's it going to do to the Sanders campaign when Hillary wins South Carolina, Nevada and all of the 12 states on Super Tuesday except Vermont?
Got one eye on the Super Bowl game and the other on this thread.
Who would consider running with Sanders? I don't mean to disparage him but his negatives would become the talk of the general election within the two major parties and among indies alike. I'm not willing to label him a spoiler ala Ralph Nader but it's difficult for me to see a clear path to 270 for him and any running mate. What does intrigue me though is his tenure as mayor of Burlington, VT. That's government executive experience that's lacking in several candidates on both sides of the divide.
If he takes out Hillary, I'll likely come around. Why? Because if she can't defeat an avowed socialist with questionable party bonafides, then perhaps her detractors are onto something. This ain't her first rodeo.
This makes me so angry:
Hillary being female is definitely one of the main reasons it would be great for her to be president of the USA. But I don't think that quality alone means she is necessarily the better choice for female voters compared with Bernie Sanders.
No. But her lifelong devotion to championing women's rights--economically, socially and politically--does make her the better choice for female voters as well as male voters.
But you don't care about any of that. You just want to get sooooooooooo angry.
(And besides, you don't live here anyway, do you?)
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