djoko84 said: "Just so we're clear. Hadestown was not eligible for Best Musical because it had previously been nominated for it in its off-Broadway run. Only new elements of the show were eligible."
Was this the case with The Band's Visit last year as well? Seems odd, of course Ive never seen Hadestown but I cant imagine the show is that different to nominate only those portions of it.
Mike Barrett said: "djoko84 said: "Just so we're clear. Hadestown was not eligible for Best Musical because it had previously been nominated for it in its off-Broadway run. Only new elements of the show were eligible."
Was this the case with The Band's Visit last year as well? Seems odd, of course Ive never seen Hadestown but I cant imagine the show is that different to nominate only those portions of it."
The rule about Broadway transfers being ineligible (except for new elements) has been around, and DID apply to The Band’s Visit.
Hadestown is an unusual case in that about 99% of the production elements are entirely different from the Off-Broadway production. New sets, new lighting, new staging, new choreography, etc. And even in the direction, Chavkin’s overal vision for the show has changed a lot. That’s why those are considered new elements. You say you can’t imagine them being that different from each other, and for most other shows you’d probably be right. But in this case, they really are that different!
I am amazed that none of Tootsie's supporting actors garnered nominations. I expected at least 2 of Behlmann, Grotelueschen, and Rogers to snag a nomination.
Well, you have to remember, the pool is much larger for these awards (both offf and on B'way)
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JBroadway said: "Mike Barrett said: "djoko84 said: "Just so we're clear. Hadestown was not eligible for Best Musical because it had previously been nominated for it in its off-Broadway run. Only new elements of the show were eligible."
Was this the case with The Band's Visit last year as well? Seems odd, of course Ive never seen Hadestown but I cant imagine the show is that different to nominate only those portions of it."
The rule about Broadway transfers being ineligible (except for new elements) has been around, and DID apply to The Band’s Visit.
Hadestown is an unusual case in that about 99% of the production elements are entirely different from the Off-Broadway production. New sets, new lighting, new staging, new choreography, etc. And even in the direction, Chavkin’s overal vision for the show has changed a lot. That’s why those are considered new elements. You say you can’t imagine them being that different from each other, and for most other shows you’d probably be right. But in this case, they really are that different!
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Wow thats incredible they've put that much work into this show. Must be really rewarding to have the final product out there
JDonaghy4 said: "JSquared2 said: "JBroadway said: . I thought Hampton Fluker was a standout in All My Sons"
He certainly was. Assuming that if by "standout" you mean it stood out as one of the worst performances to appear on any stage. Ever.
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This is easily one of the more asinine things I've read on these boards. I thought he was phenomenal, but even if one disagrees, the worst performance ever on a stage? Laughable.
Overall I'm surprised TKAM and All My Sons were so overlooked. Very strange re Hadestown, I assume that Gray and Page simply were ineligible. Still the Oklahoma! love here is strong- 5 acting nominations, and I expect to see something similar next week.
HUGE congrats to Sydney James Harcourt. I didnt see GFNC but he was a fantastic Burr and GW in Hamilton.
"IM SO THRILLED for Sydney James Harcourt!! He sang one of my favorite songs in the show and was just fantastic.
bdn223 said: "The fact that Page and Gray are both in very competitive categories and aren't eligible in any of the precursor awards does not bode well for their Tony chances, akin to to what happened to the supporting cast ofGreat Comet."
This is the only award where they have not been eligible. Amber is nominated for both a Drama League award and an OCC award. Don't see how that doesn't bode well for Tony chances.
But not only is this the only one where they are ineligible, I just don't see why other awards having them ineligible would at all affect their Tony chances. Why would it?
I think they are both almost locks for Tony nominations (especially considering how Tonys are only Broadway, not Off). I do not think Amber Gray will win, though, with Ali Stroker in the category.
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There isnt one...the new soonsors said there would be one in 2020.
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