A new THE KING AND I film- Page 2

[justoldbill]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 3:23am

The families no longer have any say.  I believe Concord is the second buy--out after a Dutch concern I never bothered to know the name of.  After the first buy-out, some of the members of the two families couldn't quite grasp that their wishes were now dross.  As to a new movie version of THE KING AND I, wasn't the cartoon bad enough?

Updated On: 2/13/21 at 03:23 AM

[BwayLB]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 10:02am

Musical Master said: "BwayLB said: "^ I think it should be Rob Marshall or Bill Conden"

I think Rob would be a pretty greatchoice. Also I think Steven Spielberg could be another solid choice, depending on how his version of West Side Story turns out."

I am looking forward to WSS

[broadwaybabywannabe2]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 10:13am

CATE BLANCHETT as ANNA...why the hell not!

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 10:58am

Amy Adams for Anna.

[FosseTharp]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 11:51am

HeyMrMusic said: "It needs to be an Asian director. Period.

I’m still very surprised the new West Side Story wasn’t directed by a Latinx director."

 

While I agree that they should hire an Asian director, WSS would most likely not have been made without Spielberg— this was a passion project of his and he’s the reason for the remake. 
 

With that said.... 

Chloe Zhao should be high up on their list of Directors to helm this adaptation. 
 

... and Carey Mulligan as Anna. 

 

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 12:07pm

joevitus said: "MichelleCraig said: "Some information on Concord from their website:

CONCORD THEATRICALSIS THE WORLD’S MOST SIGNIFICANT THEATRICAL COMPANY, COMPRISING THE CATALOGS OF R&H THEATRICALS, SAMUEL FRENCH, TAMS-WITMARK AND THE ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER COLLECTION.

Our unparalleled roster includes the work of Irving Berlin, Agatha Christie, George & Ira Gershwin, Marvin Hamlisch, Lorraine Hansberry, Kander & Ebb, Ken Ludwig, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Dominique Morisseau, Cole Porter, Rodgers & Hammerstein, Thornton Wilder and August Wilson. We are the only firm providing truly comprehensive services to the creators and producers of plays and musicals, including theatrical licensing, music publishing, script publishing, cast recording and first-class production."

So, Concord is the Rogers and Hammerstein organization under a different banner?I see the R&H site calls itself "A Concord Company," which sounds like the R&H is a subsidiary,but what exactly happened here in terms of who ownswhat?"

CONCORD THEATRICALS is the main company. They own/administer the catalogs of R&H, Samuel French, Tams Witmark, and Andrew Lloyd Webber Collection. Each catalog retains their proper names but they are no longer separate entities, they are all now owned by CONCORD THEATRICALS and as such they are each a subsidiary of CONCORD THEATRICALS. 

Picture CONCORD THEATRICALS as an umbrella and each of these companies falling under that umbrella. 

 

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 12:12pm

As for a remake of Rodger's & Hammerstein's THE KING & I, I'm all for it! I welcome new, fresh interpretations provided that they are respectful of the original material and do not bastardize it. 

No casting ideas come to mind, I'll leave that game to the rest on this board.

I've learned from the past not to become too invested in these types of announcements. As with any film, the announcement is made and then NOTHING. 

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 12:29pm

FosseTharp said: "While I agree that they should hire an Asian director, WSS would most likely not have been made without Spielberg— this was a passion project of his and he’s the reason for the remake.

I think we needed a King and I remake way before a West Side Story remake. WSS seems more unnecessary if we’re comparing the two. All the R&H movies feel dated and stagey when compared to one of the biggest successes in Oscar history. The lack of actual Asian actors and the abundance of orientalism in the original King and I film is enough for me to never watch it willingly. Although, the yellowface and brownface in both films is... well, it was a different time in Hollywood, right?

[BwayLB]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 12:57pm

^ With all due respect, I’ve been looking forward to the WSS remake since Rita Moreno was announced.

[Globefan]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 1:44pm

I'd love Gina Beck to play Anna! 

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 1:48pm

HeyMrMusic said: "FosseTharp said: "While I agree that they should hire an Asian director, WSS would most likely not have been made without Spielberg— this was a passion project of his and he’s the reason for the remake.

I think we needed a King and I remake way before a West Side Story remake. WSS seemsmore unnecessary if we’re comparing the two. All the R&H movies feel dated and stagey when compared to one of the biggest successesin Oscar history. The lack of actual Asian actors and the abundance of orientalismin the original King and I film is enough for me to never watch it willingly. Although, the yellowface and brownface in both films is... well, it was a different time in Hollywood, right?"

The one R & H movie that doesn't feel dated and stands the test of time is The Sound of Music,even if it is 55 years old. No one can improve on Julie Andrews.

[BwayLB]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 3:03pm

^ I have seen the Sound of Music 6 times and The King and I 3 times

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 3:07pm

Some historians have suggested the real life Anna Leonowens was mixed race and I think it would be lovely if they cast a Indian-British actress in the role. Naomi Scott, maybe?

[BwayLB]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 3:17pm

^ Shes a bit too young

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 3:38pm

''The lack of actual Asian actors and the abundance of orientalism in the original King and I film is enough for me to never watch it willingly.''

The lack of any actors of southeast Asian ancestry, notably in featured roles, in the 1956 Oscar-winning ''The King and I'' movie is so glaring and laughable.  Lady Thiang is played by a Caucasian (Terry Saunders); the Kralahome, by Martin Benson, a British-born Jew; Tuptim, by Rita Moreno from Puerto Rico, and Lun Tha, by Carlos Rivas, a German-Mexican actor from Texas.

(I won't get into Yul Brynner's claims of being Russian-Swiss with some Mongol blood or Anna Leonowens' disputed Welsh ancestry.)

Updated On: 2/13/21 at 03:38 PM

[joevitus]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 4:17pm

CarlosAlberto said: "joevitus said: "MichelleCraig said: "Some information on Concord from their website:

CONCORD THEATRICALSIS THE WORLD’S MOST SIGNIFICANT THEATRICAL COMPANY, COMPRISING THE CATALOGS OF R&H THEATRICALS, SAMUEL FRENCH, TAMS-WITMARK AND THE ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER COLLECTION.

Our unparalleled roster includes the work of Irving Berlin, Agatha Christie, George & Ira Gershwin, Marvin Hamlisch, Lorraine Hansberry, Kander & Ebb, Ken Ludwig, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Dominique Morisseau, Cole Porter, Rodgers & Hammerstein, Thornton Wilder and August Wilson. We are the only firm providing truly comprehensive services to the creators and producers of plays and musicals, including theatrical licensing, music publishing, script publishing, cast recording and first-class production."

So, Concord is the Rogers and Hammerstein organization under a different banner?I see the R&H site calls itself "A Concord Company," which sounds like the R&H is a subsidiary,but what exactly happened here in terms of who ownswhat?"

CONCORD THEATRICALS is the main company. They own/administer the catalogs of R&H, Samuel French, Tams Witmark, and Andrew Lloyd Webber Collection. Each catalog retains their proper names but they are no longer separate entities, they are all now owned by CONCORD THEATRICALS and as such they are each a subsidiary of CONCORD THEATRICALS.

Picture CONCORD THEATRICALS as an umbrella and each of these companies falling under that umbrella.

"

Thanks! I'm really surprised by  this. I would never have imagined the R&H catalogue owned by anyone other that R&H and their heirs. But I'm guessing Mary Rodgers, the Hammerstein brothers, etc. must still be financially participating.

[Fan123]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 5:07pm

If this does happen, I do wonder if it might end up like the Mulan remake in the sense of inevitably generating outrage in some direction or other. To my knowledge, the show and original film are still officially banned in Thailand. So there's not a high likelihood of Paramount being permitted to shoot a remake at authentic locations. Thailand-dwelling Thai actors may also be hesitant to join the project, in case they could end up facing political blowback (although I don't know enough about Thai politics to know how likely that actually is?). On the other hand, if Paramount were to work closely with Thai authorities to ensure that they approved of the new film, the studio could be accused of deferring to an (in some ways) oppressive foreign authority (for example). As for casting big-name Asian actors without Thai heritage, that could generate its own controversy (as per some responses to casting in the upcoming 'Raya and the Last Dragon').

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 6:56pm

BwayLB said: "^ With all due respect, I’ve been looking forward to the WSS remake since Rita Moreno was announced."

I love Rita Moreno. She is still the thing that most excites me about the film. That and actual Latinx actors in addition to her.

[BwayLB]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 7:00pm

^ Thats What I’m talking about! I never been so hyped for a Spielberg movie

[Globefan]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 10:50pm

I hope they do a lot of research for this new script 

[MichelleCraig]

Posted: 2/13/21 at 11:19pm

This was published in The Guardian yesterday:

"Despite its success, the musical was banned in Thailand and remains banned to this day due to its representation of King Mongkut of Siam. The ban is based on a 1930 censorship law that prohibits filmmakers from portraying Thailand's monarchy in a disrespectful way, according to The Guardian."

Another article of interest:

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/thailand/articles/the-real-thai-story-of-the-king-and-i/

 

[joevitus]

Posted: 2/14/21 at 12:25am

MichelleCraig said: "This was published in The Guardian yesterday:

"Despite its success, the musical wasbanned in Thailandand remainsbannedto this day due to its representation of King Mongkut of Siam. Thebanis based on a 1930 censorship law that prohibits filmmakers from portrayingThailand'smonarchy in a disrespectful way, according to The Guardian."

Another article of interest:

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/thailand/articles/the-real-thai-story-of-the-king-and-i/

"

In line with this, there's a pretty good biography on Anna Leonowens (she probably made up everything about herself and most of what she claims happened during her stay in Siam), Masked: The Life of Anna Leonowens, Schoolmistress at the Court of Siam 

Updated On: 2/14/21 at 12:25 AM

[A Director]

Posted: 2/14/21 at 5:01am

joevitus said: 


Thanks! I'm really surprised by this. I would never have imagined the R&H catalogue owned by anyone other that R&H and their heirs. ButI'm guessing Mary Rodgers, the Hammerstein brothers, etc. must still be financially participating."

Mary Rodgers died in 2014.  The Hammerstein brothers are dead.  The ones financially participating are the grandchildren.

 

[A Director]

Posted: 2/14/21 at 5:13am

A new version of The King and I is a ridiculous idea. The Anna Leonowens books are mostly fictional and the same is true of the Margaret Landon book. Don't forget the 1946 movie, Anna and the King of Siam with Rex Harrison as the King.  Also, there's the Jodie Foster movie based on the same material. I think it was a bomb.  Sondheim talks about 'why" musicals; a new movie of The King and I is a "why" remake.

Here are links to Wikipedia pages about the real King, his son and Anna's son.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongkut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chulalongkorn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_T._Leonowens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Landon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Leonowens

 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 2/14/21 at 11:20am

A Director said: "A new version of The King and I is a ridiculous idea. The Anna Leonowensbooks are mostly fictional and the same is true of the Margaret Landon book. Don't forget the 1946 movie, Anna and the King of Siam with Rex Harrison as the King. Also, there's the Jodie Foster movie based on the same material. I think it was a bomb. Sondheim talks about 'why" musicals; a new movie of The King and I is a "why" remake.

Here are links to Wikipedia pages about the real King, his son and Anna's son.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongkut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chulalongkorn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_T._Leonowens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Landon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Leonowens

"

Relax. It’s not a documentary.