ALW and Chita dissed
#1ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:13am
So glad I didn't watch the Tonys live... Just catching up on DVR. My only real reason for recording it was hoping there would be a suitable tribute to ALW for his Lifetime Achievement Tony. That ridiculous flip flop of tunes from his works with Chita's performances was insulting - for both of them.
kofler22
Featured Actor Joined: 9/1/14
#3ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:20am
It was really bizarre, no? They each should've gotten their own tribute.
#4ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:24amI agree they deserved more. I understand the Springsteen ratings draw, but maybe it was unnecessary to present him with the award AND have him perform? And maybe not have the Summer performance? I don’t really see how anything else could’ve been cut, though.
#6ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:40am
kade.ivy said: "I agree they deserved more. I understand the Springsteen ratings draw, but maybe it was unnecessary to present him with the award AND have him perform? And maybe not have the Summer performance? I don’t really see how anything else could’ve been cut, though."
The Summer performance seems logical - how many years were non-nominated musicals snubbed from a performance slot?
broadwaysfguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/14
#7ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:51amhave to chime in and say the tribute mash up was offensive and small minded and alw and chita both deserve and have earned separate tributes
#8ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:53am
chernjam said: "The Summer performance seems logical - how many years were non-nominated musicals snubbed from a performance slot?"
Never? How many years did non-nominated not pay an extra quarter million to perform on an awards show? A lot.
broadwaysfguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/14
#9ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:53amhave to chime in and say the tribute mash up was offensive and small minded and alw and chita both deserve and have earned separate tributes
VintageSnarker
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/30/15
#10ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 2:08amWhat actually was that? If anyone was at the actual show, I would appreciate a report of what the performance and acceptance speeches were actually like. The editing was so strange. I hope it wasn't that strangely abbreviated in person.
#11ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 3:04am
The special awards were given out during the pre-show awards. The performance during the show wasn’t the entirety of the tribute.
LightsOut90
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/2/14
#12ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 3:17am
VintageSnarker said: "What actually was that? If anyone was at the actual show, I would appreciate a report of what the performance and acceptance speeches were actually like. The editing was so strange. I hope it wasn't that strangely abbreviated in person."
i was there, it was odd.
#13ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 9:00am
The special awards were given out during the pre-show awards. The performance during the show wasn’t the entirety of the tribute.
Yes, we all understand this. We just want to know from those who attended the Tony Awards -- did the pre-show (prior to the live telecast) where they were actually presented their awards include a Kennedy Center Honors-type of tribute to ALW and Chita Rivera?
#14ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 9:23am
kade.ivy said: "I agree they deserved more. I understand the Springsteen ratings draw, but maybe it was unnecessary to present him with the award AND have him perform? And maybe not have the Summer performance? I don’t really see how anything else could’ve been cut, though."
I felt like John Leguizamo talked for like an hour.
#15ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 9:39am
Hell, I was more worried that they'd accidentally omit Jan Maxwell from the Memoriam sequence after what happened with her house-light-dimming...
#16ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 10:40am
My bf doesn't know much about theater and he's trying to learn more. This medley had him SO confused. I can't be mad that he now thinks ALW wrote Chicago & West Side Story and Chita Rivera played Eva Peron & Grizabella.
Updated On: 6/11/18 at 10:40 AM
#17ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 10:43am
I'd watch Chita Rivera play Eva Peron. Hell, I'd watch her play Che.
#18ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 10:45am
I think they should just award one person the lifetime achievement award each year rather than awarding multiple people one year and none the next, etc.
#19ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 1:16pm
I'll say this for the medley... it proved that a live (or even semi-live) orchestra performing themes from JCS without one of Webber's flunkies wielding total control can give it more passion and excitement.
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#20ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 1:22pm
I was not really paying attention and at the end I thought they were celebrating Chita in Sunset Boulevard and I was VERY confused/disappointed that never happened.
#21ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 1:23pm
bandit964 said: "My bf doesn't know much about theater and he's trying to learn more. This medley had him SO confused. I can't be mad that he now thinks ALW wrote Chicago & West Side Story and Chita Rivera played Eva Peron & Grizabella.
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^ ^ ^ This times 10...
It was funny since when it was announced that Josh and Sarah were hosting and then ALW was getting the lifetime achievement, I expected they were going to do something since they've both recorded some of ALW's music in different forms. What a friggin embarrassment. I want to go back and see the tribute they did for Sondheim when he won that award.
carnzee
Broadway Star Joined: 9/2/11
#22ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 1:36pm
chernjam said: "I want to go back and see the tribute they did for Sondheim when he won that award.
I know these award shows have many different producers over the years. Whoever produced it when Sondheim won may have had better taste.
This medley was the low point in a very good evening, I thought. I can't be the only one who assumed both of them received lifetime achievement Tonys years ago.
#23ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 1:39pm
Just watched Chita's speech...she is queen! Also, she "still has salt in the shaker!"
#24ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 1:54pm
chernjam said: "
I want to go back and see the tribute they did for Sondheim when he won that award.
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I was curious too and found this (jump to 1:39:35). Sondheim was unable to attend the Tony's back in 2008 so Mandy Patinkin dictated Sondheim's acceptance speech that evening.
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#25ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/11/18 at 2:06pm
TheSassySam said: "I was not really paying attention and at the end I thought they were celebrating Chita in Sunset Boulevard and I was VERY confused/disappointed that never happened."
But Rita Moreno did do Sunset Boulevard, so you could kind of say that Chita did it ![]()
#26ALW and Chita dissed
Posted: 6/13/18 at 1:30pm
I didn't so much have a problem with the mashup montage as I did with the fact that they didn't present the awards at the point, rather than earlier and off-camera.
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