AMELIE to close on May 21 — Page 4

I would argue social media presence means little, if anything, with respect to being "known." There are YouTube vloggers, for example, who have millions of subscribers but would never be considered well-known or part of mainstream consciousness.

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Is editing your posts not allowed?

Maybe they'll let you play the part in a bid to increase ticket sales

Enjoy!

Let's not be naive, outside of the Hamilton Tumblr Obsessives and theatre devotees, no one has any clue who Philippa Soo is.

I think the Today show appearance was telling, they basically immediately asked her what it was like to be a part of the Hamilton phenomenon rather than Amelie.

You don't get how this works, do you?

I know thats what they say, but ratings for the Tony Awards are pretty small and the vast majority of that audience already is aware of what shows are playing/what is good. Perhaps it was more true in the early 2000's that Tony Awards gave shows Box office bumps, but is there any recent evidence that Tony's have helped any show?

I love the movie, so I wasn't too keen on exposing myself to the musical version. I just saw the trailer and the Today Show performance, and no wonder people didn't like it. It has that generic Broadway musicals of the 2010 sound that really does not fit the source material. In fact it works against what made the movie so well-liked in the first place. I mean the character of Amelie self-proclaiming herself as a dreamer was already a sign the creative team was misstepping from the get-go. The writing, staging, choreography, facial expressions of the dancers, and "acting" of the blind man number was so bad and overblown in every way possible and something people would make if they were making fun of needless staged musical adaptations of movies.

I think after hearing the music of this show, people would rather listen to the memorable, superior film score on their headphones than see this show. The way I feel about this is probably how people felt about that Doctor Zhivago musical years ago where they tacked on "Laura's Theme" at the last minute out of desperation. A musical of a film won't work if the film already has a great score that the potential audience is already familiar with that's simply better than anything you're making in the musical. I bet if they just added insipid, needless lyrics and dance sequences to the film score, people would have been much happier with it even if it would have closed anyway.

Updated On: 5/5/17 at 07:47 PM

theaterguy11 said: "I know thats what they say, but ratings for the Tony Awards are pretty small and the vast majority of that audience already is aware of what shows are playing/what is good. Perhaps it was more true in the early 2000's that Tony Awards gave shows Box office bumps, but is there any recent evidence that Tony's have helped any show?



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Truth!

theaterguy11 said: "It also seems that more and more the nominating committee is skeptical of the shows that open right at the deadline. They seem to be rewarding shows that have braved the fall or early spring lately.



Perhaps shows should work harder at creating marketing strategies that do not involve the Tony Awards.



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This could not be more true!

carnzee said: "theaterguy11 said: "I know thats what they say, but ratings for the Tony Awards are pretty small and the vast majority of that audience already is aware of what shows are playing/what is good. Perhaps it was more true in the early 2000's that Tony Awards gave shows Box office bumps, but is there any recent evidence that Tony's have helped any show?



Gentleman's Guide . Their grosses started going up after nominations and went way up after their win. Even if people don't watch the Tonys, they are impressed with the BEST MUSICAL on the ads.




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While I am on the "Tony noms definitely help" train, I do think it's important to note that Gentleman's Guide had a pretty limited bump; it only lasted from the Tonys through to the end of the year. Granted, that's six months longer than they would have ran if they had got less noms, but it seems it's not a perfect long-term box office increase solution.

Same thing happened with Fun Home. They opened right before Tonys to decent grosses, blew up for about four to five months after the Tonys, then almost immediately started dropping to 60% weekly gross and eventually less. (This info is taken from the BroadwayWorld reports btw).

Basically, I think my point is that a show has to be doing well already for the Tonys to help them long-term. Out of the Best Musical noms, I think the only one it would really help to win is Great Comet, because it's already doing pretty well at box office and they also need something to advert once Josh is gone.

Updated On: 5/5/17 at 08:32 PM

^ as demonstrated by the thread title I think we know that.

Hamiltrash and nerdy2 said: "What do you think Phillipa will do after this? Maybe back to Great Comet after Denee Benton leaves? I think it is unlikely but does anyone think she would come back to Hamilton?



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I find it unlikely that she would go back to either show. I would think that the reason why she chose to do Amelie was to be the lead of a musical. Both the Hamilton role and the Great Comet role are really smaller, supporting roles. I don't think she would want to take that kind of step backwards, career-wise.