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#51

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blug, thank you for your apology, and for articulating your thoughts more thoroughly and reasonably this time. I found some of what you wrote informative, and I appreciate that.

There is clearly a lot of heavy emotion going on in this thread, and I understand and appreciate why some people get extremely passionate about the Palestine-Israel conflict. It’s horrifying.

That said, going back and reading this thread again, it’s pretty nasty. Lots of comments (not just to me) along the lines of “you’re disgusting,” etc. Why? What does this accomplish? And these comments are coming mostly from (I’m guessing) progressives who pride themselves on how empathetic and kind they are. A bit ironic.

Behavior like this is destructive and does not make for an enjoyable experience on this board - a place I have been going to for over twenty years to connect with my fellow theater nerds in an intellectually stimulating, sometimes tense, but always joyful way. But over the past couple of years, I have seen posters here get meaner, more dismissive, and less able and willing to have productive conversations (I mean, there have always been a handful of easily enraged keyboard warriors on here, but not this many).

Okay, for real this time, I am bowing out of this conversation. But can you all just be nice? You’re very unlikely to change anyone’s mind anyway, and I’m pretty sure no members of the Israeli government are reading this chat board.

#52

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ER765 said: "CoffeeBreak said: "Couldn't care less about what Trimm or Platt think."

Imaginetaking the time to post a response to a message board thread, just to announce that you don’t care…?
"

Yep. I can - and did.

Imagine taking the time to comment that I don't care about Trimm's performative opinion - or Platt's.

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 01:26 AM

#53

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ER765 said: "Dreamboy3 said: "War isn’t genocide. Genocide (as defined by the UN) requires intent and giving warnings of bombings as Israel does shows lack of intent. Genocide doesn’t require a minimum number of deaths. Of course when Trump said he wanted to destroy Iran and then started a war - that is genocide.


Palestinian actors who refuse to work with actors who are Zionists - that is, people who support a Jewish homeland -maybe should worry about their future in the industry.


Honestly, Quizking, starting this thread was a bit disingenuous
"

Starting this thread is disingenuous but denying that Palestine is experiencing a genocide isn’t…? Ok.
"


I have you two reasons - including a UN definition - as to why this isn’t genocide. What is your argument that it is?

War crimes have likely been committed, and no doubt that there is a humanitarian crisis. But it is not genocide.


I guess you don’t understand the word disingenuous.

#55

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The Distinctive Baritone said: "TellZ said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "So while I sympathize with Allie Trimm here, if I were her, I would have just kept my mouth shut and not have done anything to jeopardize my position."

You know, like Glinda did
"


Sadly, yes. It should also be noted that in the musical, Glinda has actual power, or at least potential influence over those who do. An actress playing Glinda posting on her Instagram about a war going on half way around the world isn’t going to actually accomplish anything. Same goes for most of us.


Maybe I’m misremembering, but didn’t Glinda actually have zero power, being just a political mouthpiece for The Wizard and Madam Morrible until Elphaba returned and gave her the Grimmerie?

#56

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Dreamboy3 said: "QueenTwinnied said: "Allie is very brave for speaking out and I’m very proud of her. Marc Platt and his untalented son should be full of shame.


Today and forever, Free Palestine.
"

What is your definition of Free Palestine?
"

What is your definition of Zionist? I’d love to know that before engaging in rhetoric with you.


I have a strong feeling you aren’t worth my time.

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 07:11 AM

#57

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Just received this message from QueenTwinned, with "Apology" as the subject:

"lol. I hope you never forget you’re an evil waste of human existence and deserve nothing in this life."

Not sure how to post the screen shot, or I would. Perhaps someone can explain. I've reported it, anyway.

This message is further proof that anti-Zionism is fueled by hate. There is nothing "peaceful" about this.




"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#58

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I do think it’s a difficult issue. People should not be suppressed for talking about a genocide but at the same time it is impossible to ignore the amount of Jew hatred that is happening right now. Why have Islamist terrorists shot dead jews on an Australian beach with a machine gun and stabbed Jews in the United Kingdom? Why?


Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 09:04 AM

#59

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Too many Palestinians just want to kill as many Jews as possible. Too many Jews feel like they are entitled to snatch even more Palestinian territory. That's why there is no workable solution to this. (edited)

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 09:04 AM

#60

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MysteriousLady said: "Most Palestinians just want to kill as many Jews as possible. That's why there is no workable solution to this."

Is this the same mindset that frightened an entire nation of Americans against Muslims and their “oppressive beliefs” while the Evangelical Christian Nationalists install their far-reaching, oppressive, conservative agenda? I’ve always wondered who really targets who… and why…

#61

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There’s no war in the West Bank. Yes I know there is unfortunately conflict over the land, but the main issue is at the hands of Hamas. Everything else would be handled diplomatically, to say nothing of the fact that millions of Palestinians live IN Israel

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 12:04 PM

#62

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THDavis said: "Everyone else in the world: Israel is committing a genocide in Palestine with the aid of the US. (Shows photo and video evidence)

US and Israel: This isn’tgenocide.

Some people on this thread: BUT THE US AND ISRAEL SAY ITS NOT AND WHY WOULD THEY LIE YOUSHEEP
"

"Everyone else in the world" is NOT saying that. Multiple organizations AND major nations have said they disagree.

1) The numbers do not equal a genocide. The Nazis exterminated entire communities of Jews in less time than 10% of Gaza has died. If Israel wanted to commit a genocide, they could've done so in less than 24 hours.

2) The numbers "everyone else in the world" are citing are given to them by The Gaza Ministry of Health, an organization run by Hamas, a terrorist organization that wants to kill all Jews, and the rest of us Westerners who won't covert to Islam.

We're not sheep. Because if you bothered to actually speak to any of us without insulting us, you might learn that we have very specific reasons why we object to the claims, and that we've studied the "evidence" closely.

But this is part of the problem with the "anti-Zionist" movement: it's not remotely peaceful. It's aggressive, and filled with verbal violence and in some cases as we've seen clearly over the last three years, physical violence too.


"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#64

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CoffeeBreak said: "ER765 said: "CoffeeBreak said: "Couldn't care less about what Trimm or Platt think."

Imaginetaking the time to post a response to a message board thread, just to announce that you don’t care…?
"

Yep. I can - and did.

Imagine taking the time to comment that I don't care about Trimm's performative opinion - or Platt's.


"

Yep. I can - and did.

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 04:17 PM

#65

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I am Jewish.

The debate over whether to label what’s happening in Palestine an "official" genocide is a distraction from the immediate human reality.

Under international law, genocide isn’t defined by a body count, nor does a tragedy have to match the scale of the Holocaust to be an atrocity. Proving legal intent in a court can take years, but we do not need a final legal verdict to recognize the horrific, intolerable scale of civilian suffering happening right now. Killing innocent men, women, and children and devastating their communities should be condemned by anyone with a conscience - especially by Jewish people.

Our history and the collective memory of the Holocaust teach us the profound weight of human suffering and the danger of turning a blind eye. To hold those lessons close means caring about the plight of innocent people everywhere.

You can be deeply proud of your Jewish identity and heritage while being outraged by the mass murders in Palestine. Those two positions are not in conflict; in fact, for many, opposing this violence comes directly from their Jewish values.

It is heartbreaking to see members of our community dismiss or excuse this reality rather than standing up for basic human dignity and rights.

Stop being so willfully ignorant and dense.

Updated On: 9/19/26 at 04:26 PM

#67

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iluvtheatertrash said: "THDavis said: "Everyone else in the world: Israel is committing a genocide in Palestine with the aid of the US. (Shows photo and video evidence)

US and Israel: This isn’tgenocide.

Some people on this thread: BUT THE US AND ISRAEL SAY ITS NOT AND WHY WOULD THEY LIE YOUSHEEP
"

"Everyone else in the world" is NOT saying that. Multiple organizations AND major nations have said they disagree.

1) The numbers do not equal a genocide. The Nazis exterminated entire communities of Jews in less time than 10% of Gaza has died. If Israel wanted to commit a genocide, they could've done so in less than 24 hours.

2) The numbers "everyone else in the world" are citing are given to them by The Gaza Ministry of Health, an organization run by Hamas, a terrorist organization that wants to kill all Jews, and the rest of us Westerners who won't covert to Islam.

We're not sheep. Because if you bothered to actually speak to any of us without insulting us, you might learn that we have very specific reasons why we object to the claims, and that we've studied the "evidence" closely.

But this is part of the problem with the "anti-Zionist" movement: it's not remotely peaceful. It's aggressive, and filled with verbal violence and in some cases as we've seen clearly over the last three years, physical violence too.
"

You're such a ****ing idiot. Pure human scum

#68

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THDavis said: "MysteriousLady said: "Most Palestinians just want to kill as many Jews as possible. That's why there is no workable solution to this."

Is this the same mindset that frightened an entire nation of Americans againstMuslims and their “oppressive beliefs”while the Evangelical Christian Nationalistsinstalltheir far-reaching, oppressive, conservative agenda? I’ve always wondered who really targets who… and why…
"

I don't know if the word "most" is correct but a great many of Palestinians openly admit that they want to kill Jews. That they want their children to kill Jews. And that that is their intention. It wasn't just Hamas members that participated on October 7. Many civilians participated, assisted, watch to hostages, and celebrated in the streets. If what mysterious lady said were false, that wouldn't have happened.


"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman

Updated On: 9/20/26 at 08:25 AM

#69

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iluvtheatertrash said: "THDavis said: "MysteriousLady said: "Most Palestinians just want to kill as many Jews as possible. That's why there is no workable solution to this."

Is this the same mindset that frightened an entire nation of Americans againstMuslims and their “oppressive beliefs”while the Evangelical Christian Nationalistsinstalltheir far-reaching, oppressive, conservative agenda? I’ve always wondered who really targets who… and why…
"

I don't know if the word "most" is correct but a great money of Palestinians openly admit that they want to kill Jews. That they want their children to kill Jews. And that that is their intention. It wasn't just Hamas members that participated on October 7. Many civilians participated, assisted, watch to hostages, and celebrated in the streets. If what mysterious lady said were false, that wouldn't have happened.
"

Some of you are a little too comfortable being openly racist, lol. YIKES.

#70

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I see the Zionists found this thread and are not interested in good faith conversations about the suffering of Palestinian children — which was the point of Allie’s post.


I'm just here so I don't get fined
#71

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GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "I see the Zionists found this thread and are not interested in good faith conversations about the suffering of Palestinian children — which was the point of Allie’s post."

It's not the Zionists in this thread calling people "pure human scum."

#72

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MysteriousLady said: "GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "I see the Zionists found this thread and are not interested in good faith conversations about the suffering of Palestinian children — which was the point of Allie’s post."

It's not the Zionists in this thread calling people "pure human scum."
"

No, the Zionists are the ones burying their heads in the sand about what’s happening in Palestine.

Granted, calling people scum isn’t going to move the needle one way or another. I just also simply can’t believe we live in an age where this atrocity is literally being documented on social media, by civilians on the ground, and some of y'all are still denying it’s really happening.

Insane.

#74

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ER765 said: "MysteriousLady said: "GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "I see the Zionists found this thread and are not interested in good faith conversations about the suffering of Palestinian children — which was the point of Allie’s post."

It's not the Zionists in this thread calling people "pure human scum."
"

No, the Zionists are the ones burying their heads in the sand about what’s happening in Palestine.

Granted, calling people scum isn’t going to move the needle one way or another. I just also simply can’t believe we live in an age where this atrocity is literally being documented on social media, by civilians on the ground, and some of y'all are still denying it’s really happening.

Insane.
"

1) I am a Zionist who has repeatedly acknowledged the horrors of WAR, and condemned Netanyahu. Many Zionists loathe him, and do not support all actions of the WAR. Refusing to fall in line with a false narrative of an imaginary genocide is not "burying our heads in the sand". Just last night, I was discussing the horrors of settler violence. That's not burying my head in the sand. I am perfectly willing to criticize Israel and its administration - but I'm not going to spread Hamas propaganda while I do it. If you are using numbers supplied by the Gaza Ministry of Health, that's Hamas. If you're citing a Gazan "journalist", that's Hamas. There is no free press. They run it. Just this week we learned that a prize winning journalist helped protect Palestinians who were on film beating hostages on October 7 and after. He buried footage.

We're calling us insane and accusing us of things that we aren't doing. There are many progressive scientists who regularly criticize actions taken by Israel and Israel and Israelis. But the very concept of being "anti-Zionist" implies a complete eradication of Israel, and that is not something that the overwhelming majority of Jews are ever going to agree with.

I'm so tired of having the same conversation over and over and over and having to debunk lies that have been spread by a terrorist organization that hates not only all of us Jews, but all of us westerner too. I do not understand what is happening when so many people are suddenly listening to terrorists who hate them and sympathizing with them and calling them resistance fighters. It is terrifying to see just how many people are spreading their falsehoods.


And yes, it makes many Jews feel unsafe to here a pro-Palestinian narrative right now because people are murdering us in the diaspora while screaming about Palestine. That's doesn't mean we don't care about innocent Palestinians - it means that the legitimate peace movement is infested with legitimate hate and violence.





"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#75

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GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "I see the Zionists found this thread and are not interested in good faith conversations about the suffering of Palestinian children — which was the point of Allie’s post."

We're not interested in good faith arguments? We quote numbers, organizations, acknowledge Israel's wrongdoings but refuse to participate in a genocide narrative that is false.

then we are insulted and called scum. I received a DM telling me I deserve nothing from life.

you say that Zionists are not willing to have a good faith discussion about things yet who is it that has been harassing Jewish students just trying to go to their classes in another country? Who is it who have hung effigies of Jews that happen to be on school boards? Who is it? That is going in killing random Jews in the diaspora while screaming "free Palestine"? But we are not willing to have a good faith conversation?

I will fully acknowledge that they are ultra conservative Zionist, who support settler violence and Netanyahu entirely, but many of us do not. Because Zionism is Simply the belief that Israel is our ancestral homeland and we have a right to be there. That's it. Some take that more extreme than others. I will also acknowledge that there are genuinely peaceful people in the pro Palestine movement. But don't act like the "Zionist are incapable of good faith conversations" as a whole. Really. Spare me. .



"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman

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