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#26

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Dusoleilcanwhistle said: "Everyone is overcomplicating this here and across social media. Bottom line is this - individuals do have freedom of speech in this country - you can say whatever you want, but the people who employ you see you as a representative of their company/show/film and if they believe what you say will have negative consequences for them financially, etc they have the right to discipline or even potentially fire/replace you. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences of what you say because while everyone in your social circle may feel the same way you do, tens of millions of people disagree and that can have an impact on hundreds or thousands of people's paychecks. That's how this country works. So again, anyone can say what they want, but don't act surprised when down the line, it comes back to bite you - and it's not just one way. Does everyone forget that Geno Segers got fired from Hadestown for comments he made a decade ago on a Youtube video with 100 views? I disagreed with them, but did that mean he should lose his job? "I never thought leopards would eat my face" pretty much sums up this conversation."

Actually, in this instance, no, you cannot be fired for airing a difference of opinion without it costing a great deal of money. Union employees are not at-will employees, they are on contracts and those contracts govern how they can be terminated and how they can be disciplined and for what reasons.

We do not know the terms of Segers' departure from Hadestown. His contract was likely bought out or ended on some kind of negotiated terms as he did not do anything to merit termination for cause. And that is very different from what Trimm is alleging here.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

Updated On: 9/17/26 at 07:40 PM

#27

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The Distinctive Baritone said: "You know, simply not posting your political views on social media is a pretty easy way to avoid dealing with bullies and crazy people. Also, no war is ever going to end because of Instagram posts. It’s all performative at this point…and exhausting."

I understand you are speaking in broad terms with Americans voicing their opinions about the genocide online, BUT, Ms. Trimm is speaking to a reality in which these dueling ideologies were affecting her status at her place of work. In any scenario, anyone’s personal beliefs should not be used as a weapon of intimidation, especially here in America. No matter what side you are on, you should not feel at risk for your job.

#29

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NYCinLA said: "I understand you are speaking in broad terms with Americans voicing their opinions about the genocide online, BUT, Ms. Trimm is speaking to a reality in which these dueling ideologies were affecting her status at her place of work. In any scenario, anyone’s personal beliefs should not be used as a weapon of intimidation, especially here in America. No matter what side you are on, you should not feel at risk for your job."

Tell that to Chad Kimball and Laura Osnes.

#30

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Tag said: "NYCinLA said: "I understand you are speaking in broad terms with Americans voicing their opinions about the genocide online, BUT, Ms. Trimm is speaking to a reality in which these dueling ideologies were affecting her status at her place of work. In any scenario, anyone’s personal beliefs should not be used as a weapon of intimidation, especially here in America. No matter what side you are on, you should not feel at risk for your job."

Tell that to Chad Kimball and Laura Osnes.
"

Or you could tell it to the people whose health would be at risk because they refused to get vaccinated. Lol...

#31

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Tag said: "NYCinLA said: "I understand you are speaking in broad terms with Americans voicing their opinions about the genocide online, BUT, Ms. Trimm is speaking to a reality in which these dueling ideologies were affecting her status at her place of work. In any scenario, anyone’s personal beliefs should not be used as a weapon of intimidation, especially here in America. No matter what side you are on, you should not feel at risk for your job."

Tell that to Chad Kimball and Laura Osnes.
"

Chad Kimball's (and everyone else's) contract ended long before Broadway came back after Covid. They simply chose not to hire him again and hired a better actor when Come From Away reopened. Regarding Laura, implementing safety protocols during a global pandemic and having her choose not to participate are not comparable to anything Ms.Trimm is speaking out about.


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Updated On: 9/18/26 at 12:50 AM

#33

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War isn’t genocide. Genocide (as defined by the UN) requires intent and giving warnings of bombings as Israel does shows lack of intent. Genocide doesn’t require a minimum number of deaths. Of course when Trump said he wanted to destroy Iran and then started a war - that is genocide.


Palestinian actors who refuse to work with actors who are Zionists - that is, people who support a Jewish homeland - maybe should worry about their future in the industry.


Honestly, Quizking, starting this thread was a bit disingenuous

#35

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The amount of idiocy, willful ignorance, and inability to think critically in this thread is alarming.


If you don’t think what’s happening in Palestine is genocide, I don’t even know what to tell you at this point. Get a grip.

#36

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Tag said: "NYCinLA said: "I understand you are speaking in broad terms with Americans voicing their opinions about the genocide online, BUT, Ms. Trimm is speaking to a reality in which these dueling ideologies were affecting her status at her place of work. In any scenario, anyone’s personal beliefs should not be used as a weapon of intimidation, especially here in America. No matter what side you are on, you should not feel at risk for your job."

Tell that to Chad Kimball and Laura Osnes.
"

Are you kidding? Not even remotely close to a similar situation.

#37

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Everyone else in the world: Israel is committing a genocide in Palestine with the aid of the US. (Shows photo and video evidence)

US and Israel: This isn’t genocide.

Some people on this thread: BUT THE US AND ISRAEL SAY ITS NOT AND WHY WOULD THEY LIE YOU SHEEP

#38

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Dreamboy3 said: "War isn’t genocide. Genocide (as defined by the UN) requires intent and giving warnings of bombings as Israel does shows lack of intent. Genocide doesn’t require a minimum number of deaths. Of course when Trump said he wanted to destroy Iran and then started a war - that is genocide.


Palestinian actors who refuse to work with actors who are Zionists - that is, people who support a Jewish homeland -maybe should worry about their future in the industry.


Honestly, Quizking, starting this thread was a bit disingenuous
"

Starting this thread is disingenuous but denying that Palestine is experiencing a genocide isn’t…? Ok.

#39

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NYCinLA said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "You know, simply not posting your political views on social media is a pretty easy way to avoid dealing with bullies and crazy people. Also, no war is ever going to end because of Instagram posts. It’s all performative at this point…and exhausting."

I understand you are speaking in broad terms with Americans voicing their opinions about the genocide online, BUT, Ms. Trimm is speaking to a reality in which these dueling ideologies were affecting her status at her place of work. In any scenario, anyone’s personal beliefs should not be used as a weapon of intimidation, especially here in America. No matter what side you are on, you should not feel at risk for your job.
"


I agree with you - one’s personal beliefs should not affect one’s job security. Of course. BUT…in pretty much every profession, they have the potential to - especially in public facing jobs like actors, teachers, etc. Although Marc Platt was definitely abusing his power here, how is what he was doing really that different from the bosses of countless other people who have lost their jobs (or in this case, had them threatened) over social media posts? I’m not saying it’s right, I’m saying that posting your opinion on social media about a highly controversial subject is all risk and no reward. As a teacher, I stopped doing it a few years ago out of fear of parents and students seeing my posts and causing me trouble (I teach at a somewhat conservative school). So while I sympathize with Allie Trimm here, if I were her, I would have just kept my mouth shut and not have done anything to jeopardize my position.

Updated On: 9/18/26 at 10:07 AM

#42

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TellZ said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "So while I sympathize with Allie Trimm here, if I were her, I would have just kept my mouth shut and not have done anything to jeopardize my position."

You know, like Glinda did
"


Sadly, yes. It should also be noted that in the musical, Glinda has actual power, or at least potential influence over those who do. An actress playing Glinda posting on her Instagram about a war going on half way around the world isn’t going to actually accomplish anything. Same goes for most of us.

This is what I mean when I say that social media protests - especially when it’s an actor taking selfie videos - is performative and useless. What is the actual goal with this stuff other than to get lots of likes and smile self-satisfactorily thinking, “I’m one of the good guys!” I’m so over it. We all should be. But it gives some people the (false) sense that they are heroes or something, so they keep doing it. Social media is so weird.

#44

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blug said: "Anytime someone speaks out against injustice there is going to be some smug, complacent POS saying they're not doing it right. It's the most cowardly and passive-aggressive way to be a censor."

Mmm’kay. Keep “speaking out” into the void. I’m sure you’re really changing the world.

BTW, you calling someone a “POS” for disagreeing with you doesn’t make you a hero, it makes you an a**hole. But I hope you get more “likes” on your post!

#45

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The Distinctive Baritone said: "Mmm’kay. Keep “speaking out” into the void. I’m sure you’re really changing the world.

BTW, you calling someone a “POS” for disagreeing with you doesn’t make you a hero, it makes you an a**hole. But I hope you get more “likes” on your post!
"

How do you think any of the major social movements have had effect? .....by people speaking out. Are you slow?

#46

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That must be rhetorical question.

Distinctive, going by your, uh…”logic”, your comments accomplish nothing and are largely useless as well. Perhaps you shut up and quit posting? Or does it only work when using that against people who disagree with you.


I am big. It’s the REVIVALS that got small.

Updated On: 9/18/26 at 03:55 PM

#47

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GiantsInTheSky2 said: "That must be rhetorical question.

Distinctive, going by your, uh…”logic”,your comments accomplish nothing and are largely useless as well. Perhaps you shut up and quit posting? Or does it only work when using that against people who disagree with you.
"



I'm arguing with you people for entertainment purposes only. I have no aspirations to actually change anything, nor any illusions that I will.

That said, some of you are being really hostile (and kinda mean) and need to chill out. JFC.

And on that note, I will exit it this conversation so that you all can continue shouting into your echo chamber. Have a good weekend!

#48

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I'm sorry I called you a POS, TDB.

But you have to understand how insultingly unserious your position is.

Online activism has done a LOT to turn the seemingly unmovable tide against Israel and their actions. This has been done namely by providing the kind of information that is suppressed and distorted by our billionaire owned media. Images of the horrors of Gaza, interviews with dead-eyed IOF soldiers discussing their divine right to kill babies, neo-fascist quotes from the likes of Ben Gvir and Miriam Adelson, data documenting the billions of US taxpayer money that goes to this out of control, blood-drunk nation. In addition, online activism has drawn attention to the machine working behind the scenes in our own country, with the rich and powerful cancelling or ruining the careers of people who speak out. And lets not even go into the spider wasp influence AIPAC has over our lawmakers and how US citizens have woken up to that. That's all from "screaming into the void" and is one of the main reasons why you have the (brilliant) mayor you have now, just to name one example of real world results.

Whenever there is protest there is always a faction that just has to chime in with calls to complacency like this isn't the time or the place, why can't they protest peacefully, etc. etc. When you become one of those people the only thing you're exposing is how little skin you have in the game and how patronizing your attitude is to people who do. It's simply not there for you to give your thumbs up/thumbs down review. No one cares.

Allie Trimm showed an incredible amount of bravery by exposing this information, possibly even torpedoing her own career. Show her a little respect in not portraying her as some online flake seeking clout.

Updated On: 9/18/26 at 08:44 PM

#50

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CoffeeBreak said: "Could care less about what Trimm or Platt think."

…I’m assuming you meant “couldn’t,” moron? 🙄

Imagine taking the time to post a response to a message board thread, just to announce that you don’t care…?

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