B'Way Beauty Sex Bust- Page 11

[Neverandy]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:08am

I am sure that Disney is looking into some sort of Leagal recourse against the Post for the Headline.
I understand the use of the photo and the headline though. Regardless of his guilt or innocense it sells newspapers.

[Neverandy]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:12am

"Uhm, publicity. Why do you think every mouth breather is trying to get on reality shows.

Some folks just like to see themselves in the paper."


Well, I will believe that when I see her giving an exclusive interview in the Post where she gives her name. Until then I will have some faith in the commonly held opinion that vicitms of sexual abuse are usually reluctant to speak up

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:15am

Uh huh, you hold your breath...

I'll go on breathing.

[Neverandy]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:19am

I don't expect her to give an interview, so holding my breath not be in my best interest, would it?

[allofmylife]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:57am

Mr Barbour's own words used against him. I've read this over and over on this thread.

Mr. Barbour's words were apparently on a tape LEAKED BY EITHER THE PROSCECUTION OR THE WOMAN'S LAWYERS to the press. And we've spentHUNDREDS of posts discussing something that may be taken out of context (I assume the prosecutor would not release exculpatory evidence) or may be shaped and described in a way most favorable to the woman. Why? TO INFLUENCE A POTENTIAL POOL OF JURIORS.

How many times do I have to tell you people that all of this should be taken with a grain of salt. Those "words of Mr. Barbours" may never see the light of day in a court if they were illegally tapesd by a person who is not a law-enforcement officer. His lawyer will plead that his right against self-incrimination was abrogated. There are a dozen ways to get the tape ruled inadmissable.

Then it's his word against hers.

BUT if you leak the tape, it serves the same purpose because it pollutes the jury pool.

I am not in any way saying that the accused is innocent or statutory rape isn't a terrible offense.

I'm just saying that there is a lot of gamesmanship being exhibited here and we are playing right into the hands of the people who leaked this tape.

Let's STFU and wait to see what happens in court.

Updated On: 12/11/06 at 12:57 AM

[Broadway Matt]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:59am

One thing I know for sure: no one here is going to get appointed to that jury!

[Marlothom]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:03am

For the victims whose statute of limitations has run out; the prosecutor will not allow them to testify at sentencing (if it gets to that point) unless they are credible.

[Broadway Matt]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:08am

Marlo, what qualifies someone as credible in a case like this? Obviously it's too late for her to press any charges, but who determines whether she is credible enough to testify?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:08am

"I don't expect her to give an interview, so holding my breath not be in my best interest, would it?"


That's the point. You don't expect.

[StarStruckGB]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:10am

Well I think everyone can expect she's going to get badgered in court, and be so confused and embarrassed she might just break down right there. And then everyone will sympathize.

[Neverandy]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:16am

From WNBC.COM

"In a written statement signed April 4, 2006, and made public Wednesday by Rosenthal, Barbour said sexual contact with the girl, a student at his alma mater, was initiated by her when he had dinner with her and her boyfriend.

"At that dinner, I was sitting next to her and our knees touched," the statement said. "Her hand was on my knee and rubbed up against my (illegible)."

The girl later told him she was 16 and wanted to pursue a career in theater, Barbour's statement said. He said he offered to help and stayed in contact with her through e-mail, the statement said.

During a subsequent telephone conversation, the statement said, Barbour asked the girl what she was thinking the night they had dinner together, "and she said 'I was thinking I wanted to"' have sex with him.

One evening before Barbour's performance in "Jane Eyre," he and the girl went to his Upper West Side apartment, the statement said.

"We were laying (sic) on the bed and she spoke about losing her virginity to (her boyfriend)" and discussed sex acts, Barbour's statement said. "We did kiss, and then she originated again about sexual intercourse."

"At that time I sort of freaked out, said she was 16, and that I couldn't do this," the statement said. "The relationship stopped suddenly because I thought it was inappropriate and could get dangerous."

Rosenthal also said there were tapes of Barbour speaking by telephone with the alleged 15-year-old victim about the case. "He himself refers to it as unethical," said Rosenthal, who provided the defense with a copy of the conversation tapes. "

Leaks? Seems like just normal disclosure to me.
Also as per the legality of the tapes-Correct me if I am wrong but recordings are asmissible as long as one of the parties being recorded are aware of the recording taking place.

[allofmylife]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:30am

A good lawyer can get a smoking gun in the hands of the defendant standing over the body of a victim ruled inadmissable. Honestly, don't you ever watch "Law and Order"?

Obviously, his lawyer has some defense plan. Why else would he talk about "signed statements?"

This is getting very interesting. Let's let this die off now and watch what happens in the press. Speculation just plays into the lawyers'/prosecutors' hands.

(The interesting things is the lawyer admits about the statement in which Mr. Barbour clearly shows he realizes sex would be wrong. And therefore didn't do it. It might be a "I admit I was there and could have, but didn't" defense which is risky but very clever and... YOU SEE I'M STARTING TO DO THIS AGAIN TOO!!!!!! DAMN!!!!!)

Updated On: 12/11/06 at 01:30 AM

[Neverandy]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:34am

I know what you mean-I just said to my wife that I am probably devoting as much time to James Barbour as the lawyers are.
I see though that he is due back in court on the 20th...

[Broadway Matt]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:52am

I live just down the street from the courthouse. I wonder if it would be inappropriate to go over and "stage door" Barbour's arrival.

[allofmylife]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:53am

And we'll read about it then.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 2:02am

BRILLIANT, Matt!

[allofmylife]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 2:05am

hahahahahahahahahahah. good one. get photos and autographs

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 2:06am

Wow...well, Matt, I guess you have "I was there" bragging rights to your theater friends from now on!

[Broadway Matt]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 2:26am

oh god, can u imagine? I'll often walk past the building on my way to the city hall area, and there will sometimes be protestors or press if it's a high-profile case like with Martha Stewart or when Boy George served his community service down here.

I wouldn't dream of actually doing it, but I love the idea of showing up there and having him sign my ASSASSINS playbill or taking a picture holding the LOLITA, MY LOVE album! Ooh if ENCORES ever does that show, they've got their man.

Updated On: 12/11/06 at 02:26 AM

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 2:49am

I drive right through them....


I hate it whe they get in my way while I'm on my way to work...

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:38pm

that's because you're pure-d mean, diva.

[MotorTink]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 2:03pm

I just think it is funny that this is constantly labeled a "sex" scandal. We definitely have a kiss admitted to on both sides, and possibly oral. Ummm, that doesn't seem like a "Sex" scandal to me. Before I get jumped on...I am not saying I think that a kiss/oral is ok with an underage person. Any contact with an underage person is illegal, plain and simple. I just think it's funny how things get labeled.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 3:24pm

you do remember the 90's right? you've heard of a lewinsky?

[MotorTink]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 4:01pm

Unfortunately

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 12/11/06 at 5:31pm

well, i was then and have since been hoping that blowjobs get classified as not being sex.