Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#1
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:09am
All new Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals need to play the Winter Garden. This is Broadway's next big hit and should play a fabulous theatre like the WG, which is much more appropriate for this show anyway. It's not too late to change theatres. It's the best score of the season.
Updated On: 1/17/23 at 09:09 AMBroadway Legend Joined: 2/14/20
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#3
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:19am
Yes let's kick out a big show like Back To The Future and replace it with a smaller ALW show that might not fill the space. That's smart. LOL
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#4
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:20am
'Fraid not, because I'm planning my own delusion for the Winter Garden this spring-- MAME, FOLLIES and PACIFIC OVERTURES with original sets and costumes in rep.
Lloyd Webber is a savvy man of the theatre, and one wielding some power when it comes to booking Shubert houses. I'm sure there's a reason he picked the Imperial. He did sort of demand his PHANTOM play the Majestic after all.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#5
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:21am
You are mistaken. It is back to the future that won't be able to fill the seats. Bad Cinderella is selling extremely well, and the Winter Garden is only like 50 seats more than the Imperial.
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Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#6
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:23am
Broadway Flash said: "You are mistaken. It is back to the future that won't be able to fill the seats. Bad Cinderella is selling extremely well, and the Winter Garden is only like 50 seats more than the Imperial."
I have seen the set for Bad Cinderella. I have an idea of what Back To The Future entails. You want to cram that into a smaller venue?? Do you honestly think this is realistic. Think about this from a production standpoint and what sets need, etc.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#7
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:27am
Are you serious right now? This show will flop badly on Broadway. Especially after all the controversies with the London production. I am only considering seeing this because Carolee Carmello is playing the stepmother.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#8
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:29am
It's less about Back to the Future, and more about putting Bad Cinderella in a much more appropriate theatre. Music Man barely had a set, and it was great. Plus, why should a flop like Future take up one of the best Broadway houses over an actual hit show.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#9
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:34am
Dylan Smith4 said: "Are you serious right now? This show will flop badly on Broadway. Especially after all the controversies with the London production. I am only considering seeing this because Carolee Carmello is playing the stepmother."
This is definitely not a flop. The New York Times gave it a nice review in London, the music is fantastic, and they're making changes to make it even better.
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Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#10
Posted: 1/17/23 at 9:47am
[Bad] Cinderella has had their eye on the Imperial for years and have been losing in for several weeks already. So yeah, it’s a bit too late.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#11
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:03am
Broadway Flash said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "Are you serious right now? This show will flop badly on Broadway. Especially after all the controversies with the London production. I am only considering seeing this because Carolee Carmello is playing the stepmother."
This is definitely not a flop. The New York Times gave it a nice review in London, the music is fantastic, and they're making changes to make it even better."
Sure, Andrew
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#12
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:05am
Broadway Flash said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "Are you serious right now? This show will flop badly on Broadway. Especially after all the controversies with the London production. I am only considering seeing this because Carolee Carmello is playing the stepmother."
This is definitely not a flop. The New York Times gave it a nice review in London, the music is fantastic, and they're making changes to make it even better."
Oh, no. I beg to differ. This WAS a flop in London and will again be a flop in New York. It was a subpar show and with the same subpar director and ALW micro-managing a new book writer (again!) so in all probability will be a bad show again.
And if you mention the good reviews it got in the West End, the critics there are nowhere near as astute as New York's (I'm talking about the newpapers, the online critics aren't bad) and handed Lloyd-Webber a good critique out of the good will he had shown toward doing his best to restart theatre again after the pandemic. Even a bad critic should have been able to tell "Bad Cinderella" was...well, you know....
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#13
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:09am
Doesn't look like it's selling that well...lol
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#14
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:14am
Do you know why they wanted the Imperial? Matt Wolf of the New York Times gave it a nice review. Have any of you heard the score? Its very melodic and very good. Much better than anything going on at the Shubert, and much more tuneful than Kimberly Akimbo. Im rooting for this show, but I also think you guys are underestimating it. It has broad appeal for families, women, musical theatre people because its ALW, and others. I would be surprised if it got bad reviews because NY critics love andrew lloyd webber as well.
Updated On: 1/17/23 at 10:14 AM
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#15
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:22am
It's not selling "extremely well" or "pretty well." I'm looking forward to it, but sales are dismal.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#16
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:29am
selling better than some of these other shows
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#17
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:31am
Broadway Flash said: "This is definitely not a flop. The New York Times gave it a nice review in London, the music is fantastic, and they're making changes to make it even better."
You really need to get your facts straight. Yes, some of the music is great, I will give you that. However, the story needs MAJOR work! I think if ALW had a better creative team and was not so controlling over every aspect of the show, it could have been a hit in London. Sadly, that did not happen. Hopefully, he made some major changes, but I am not getting my hopes up for that. He just needs to retire.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#18
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:33am
Broadway Flash said: "selling better than some of these other shows"
LOL! Kimberly Akimbo and Sweeney Todd are selling way better than this show!
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#19
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:36am
some like it hot? shucked? new york new york??
Also, lets remember, it didnt close in London because of poor ticket sales. It was doing well in London and Webber pulled the show to bring it to Broadway, and later bring the revamped version back to London later on. Get your facts straight people.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#20
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:39am
Just stop! You are just embarrassing yourself now. I get it, you are happy to see this show come to broadway, but this is by no means the next big hit.
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#22
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:55am
Bad Cinderella is not selling well at all, it only appears to be because a large section of the center orchestra is not on sale for any performances. Most performances have over 1,000 tickets left yet and Bad Cinderella opens next month, Back to the Future has some time yet to build up sales. Back to the Future also requires a lot of space due to how technical the show is. Bad Cinderella got good reviews from some papers because it was the first show to open in the West End in 2 years. The score is weak, the lyrics are derivative, and the plotline is awful. This show will close before the end of summer at a loss and be a bigger flop than it was on the West End.
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Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#23
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:57am
So my post was deleted...why, now? I'm genuinely wondering. It was a joke, and not even a harmful or mean-spirited one.
Anyway, yeah, this isn't "Broadway's next big hit," and even if it were, why would that automatically mean it should play the Winter Garden? Is that the only theatre big hits are allowed to play? I don't understand the logic.
There. The above paragraph is perfectly on-topic, and not harmful or in violation of any rules. I hope this pleases our Dear Mods enough to be allowed to stay up. *bows down*
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Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#24
Posted: 1/17/23 at 10:59am
Y'all are either really dense or have fun debating with an obvious troll LOL
Bad Cinderella needs to go to the Winter Garden#25
Posted: 1/17/23 at 11:26am
I'm not a troll, I'm telling you whats going to happen. Bad Cinderella will get good reviews, critics pick, be nominated for a bunch of Tony Awards, and sell lots of tickets. It will have a nice long run.
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