Broadway Unions Revolt Over Halve Pay

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:06am

https://www.thedailybeast.com/broadway-unions-revolt-over-proposal-to-half-workers-pay-during-covid-pauses?source=articles&via=rss

Updated On: 1/8/22 at 11:06 AM

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:26am

Mis read that part of the article. Thought they were saying the union wanted five days paid leave after actors contracted Covid. But, I think five days after getting the booster is a tad unnecessary, but what do I know.

Updated On: 1/8/22 at 11:26 AM

[forfivemoreminutes]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:31am

Call_me_jorge said: "Why are the unions against booster requirements? Seems silly…"

As per the article, the unions are not against booster requirements. They want five guaranteed paid sick days for people who may have adverse reactions to the booster; the Broadway League only wanted two paid sick days. There's no disagreement about whether actors should get the booster; the disagreement is about how many paid sick days actors should receive after getting the booster.

[angoradebs]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:33am

Call_me_jorge said: "Why are the unions against booster requirements? Seems silly…"

They aren't. The article said the disagreement comes from how much time off they'd get if they had side effects from the shot - the union wanted 5 days while the league only offered 2.

5 days seems extreme for the booster, which is not a full dose. 2 is perfectly reasonable, 3 would be a decent compromise, I think. 

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:37am

"Why are the unions against booster requirements? Seems silly"

THEY AREN'T! READ THE ARTICLE! If's the 3rd damn paragraph!

"Another area of disagreement was around booster shots. The League proposed that mandatory vaccination for all Broadway workers now included getting booster shots. However, the League and the unions disagreed about the number of days workers would get off if they had an adverse reaction to the shots. The League proposed two while the unions wanted five, according to informed sources."

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:38am

ghostlight2 said: ""Why are the unions against booster requirements? Seems silly"

THEY AREN'T! READ THE ARTICLE! If's the 3rd damn paragraph!

"Another area of disagreement was around booster shots. The League proposed that mandatory vaccination for all Broadway workers now included getting booster shots. However, the League and the unions disagreed about the number of days workers would get off if they had an adverse reaction to the shots. The League proposed two while the unions wanted five, according to informed sources.""

You’re the third person to tell them that. Read the damn thread.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 11:46am

"You’re the third person to tell them that. Read the damn thread"

I read the thread, iluvtheatertrash. I'm aware I'm the third person to tell Call_me_jorge that they posted inaccurate information, It was worth repeating.

Especially when Call_me_jorge's post still stands. uncorrected,

Updated On: 1/8/22 at 11:46 AM

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 12:13pm

I love when people post in a thread about an article but don't read the article.

WILD. 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 2:17pm

I apologize for glancing over the article and posting right away. My bad. I didn’t intend to spread misinformation.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 2:30pm

Thanks, Call_me_jorge! You weren't the only one.

I appreciate it.

[Wick3]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 2:48pm

Had the Broadway League made grosses public this season, I wonder if the unions would have been more sympathetic to the producers' perspective in the half-pay idea during a potential covid pause.

[GiantsInTheSky2]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 4:36pm

Call_me_jorge said: "Mis read that part of the article. Thought they were saying the union wanted five days paid leave after actors contracted Covid. But, I think five days after getting the booster is a tad unnecessary, but what do I know."

Just to clarify, it’s not that they want five days across the board, it’s if they have an adverse reaction (which is going by honor system so who knows if it’d be taken advantage of or not).

I was not great for three days after mine, and another friend didn’t feel well until the fifth day after his booster. Most people I know felt crappy the same day but nothing beyond.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 4:41pm

angoradebs said: "5 days seems extreme for the booster, which is not a full dose. 2 is perfectly reasonable, 3 would be a decent compromise, I think."

Not that I was working when I got the booster just after Thanksgiving, but it hit me harder than either of my first two shots. Almost 24 hours to the minute I got incredibly weak and achy, and about 48 hours after it I got hit with some gastro-intestinal issues that didn't clear up completely for over a week. Maybe that was an entirely separate and coincidental issue, but I certainly would not have been ready to go back to work in two days time if I had been working on something at that point.

[Impeach2017]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 6:16pm

Psychosomatic BS.  

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 1/8/22 at 9:25pm

They will all negotiate and land on 3 days I bet.

[pagereynolds]

Posted: 1/9/22 at 8:55am

Lavieboheme3090 said: "They will all negotiate and land on 3 days I bet."

Three days is more than reasonable. Also, boosters have been available since the summer for many people. If someone STILL isn't boosted, despite the surge and all evidence pointing to everyone needing one, I dunno.

 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 1/9/22 at 11:55am

Something needs to be done here, and I'm inclined to side with the League.

Similar to the Casting Director silliness a few years ago, Hamilton and Disney and the rare megahit shows are held as the standard-bearers, when you're also dealing with shows on the same contracts that are barely scraping by or that are trying to build up their brand.

There's a world in which a sliding payscale based on gross (and whether a show has recouped or not) is the way to go...but then workers will jump ship to the big hits because that's where they make more money, and it will actually hurt the smaller shows. And as wages for individual people go up, then that makes it harder to hire more coverage.

[itsjustmejonhotmailcom]

Posted: 1/9/22 at 1:40pm

pagereynolds said: "Lavieboheme3090 said: "They will all negotiate and land on 3 days I bet."

Three days is more than reasonable. Also, boosters have been available since the summer for many people. If someone STILL isn't boosted, despite the surge and all evidence pointing to everyone needing one, I dunno.

"

Seems very reasonable. Also worth noting that this is additional paid time off. If someone wasn't feeling well for more than three days, they could take more time off, they'd just have to use existing sick days (or take unpaid time off.)

[Lot666]

Posted: 1/11/22 at 8:20am

As I read the article, in my mind's eye I saw Cameron Mackintosh on a ship, à la Gary Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracula, heading to New York.