Sutton Ross said: "It won't. And AppleTV has 40 million subscribers so plenty of people will see it if they want."
No reason for us to revisit this subject since it is already rehearsed in this very thread
KKeller, good question. It's a matter of scale. A good week for the show on Broadway is 8000+ attendance. If they open 9/14 as has been rumored, that's let's call it 16 frames. 16x8000=128,000 bodies. [I think that's way over-optimistic but let's just assume.] Now if we assume Sutton's number, and that only 1% of them watch (and that would be a disaster), it is still over three times that many. Now if we further assume that a lot of people who are willing to pay $100 to see it live would also watch it on TV and some part of them are then going to decide that they had seen enough, and that some percentage of potential audience members are still gonna be wary of sitting in a crowded theatre (and that's very real, even among us here) and would opt not to if they could see the same show on TV, we have a lot of risk brought on by the streaming. Not all of that said, we don't know, no one does, but I think the Apple venture, which will basically be parallel to the reopening, is not wise. We shall see but I would not have bet my money on something like this.
Seeing a show live with people around you with real life humans on stage, all in a room together, is a completely different experience than watching anything on your television. Live theater is not television. To think one will replace the other is incredibly stupid. Apples and oranges.
Interesting thought to this, and I'm not arguing with anyone's rationale, just furthering a discussion. As an older guy, I had no interest in seeing Hamilton. Just figured the music wasn't for me. Long story short, had some friends over the summer so we watched it, and now I'd go pay and see it. I thought it was fabulous. Not perfect, but tremendous. Maybe these shows moving forward feel whatever audience they may lose to TV viewers they make up for in publicity and good word of mouth.
Sutton Ross said: "Seeing a show live with people around you with real life humans on stage, all in a room together, is a completely different experience than watching anything on your television. Live theater is not television. To think one will replace the other is incredibly stupid. Apples and oranges."
I am the last person on earth you have to convince of that. For a year I have been saying that all of the streaming stuff doesn't do much for me. I am also the guy who has been saying that I am not a fan of filming shows for broadcast/streaming for essentially the apples and oranges reason. But it's not the two of us (or many of the rest here) that is the challenge. Rather, you have to sell tickets to the two couples who drive in from Allentown on Indigenous Peoples' Day. They have a menu of let's say a dozen shows to choose from and they are only going to choose one. Do they see one they already saw on TV (Hamilton, of course, being sui generis)? Or something else? That's the risk and while I don't find the need to employ your hyperbolic choice of words, I think it is very unwise. We shall see. As I say I wish them well.
From Instagram, it looks like this afternoons filming was done for a socially distanced audience of cast and creative team family members. That would also explain why chatter on the “live” filming has been non existent leading up to/after today’s performance. They likely filmed many runs of the shows and close ups, and will intercut this audience show.
This is the response a cast gets just for walking into their theater just to film their show. Imagine the eruption & energy that will occur on each show's first night back. It'll be something none of us have ever experienced.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
ACL2006 said: "This is the response a cast gets just for walking into their theater just to film their show. Imagine the eruption & energy that will occur on each show's first night back. It'll be something none of us have ever experienced.
"From Instagram, it looks like this afternoons filming was done for a socially distanced audience of cast and creative team family members. That would also explain why chatter on the “live” filming has been non existent leading up to/after today’s performance. They likely filmed many runs of the shows and close ups, and will intercut this audience show."
Vote Peron wins the prize (except it wasn't even mostly family members). Yes, they have been filming all week, and during that time there was a very limited audience
"CFA has been filming without an audience this whole time, though, right? Who's cheering them on in the video?"
See above. What you saw in the video was the audience waiting to get inside, Lizzie
"This was staged, it's not a genuine reaction."
You are SO wrong about that, Tag. You think these people were not genuinely thrilled to see a cast return to Broadway, knowing that they were going to see them perform in a very short time?
ghostlight2 said: ""You are SO wrong about that, Tag. You think these people were not genuinely thrilled to see a cast return to Broadway,knowing that they were going to see them perform in a very short time?
you are both right, at least to an extent. It WAS staged, but the thrill was genuine for the friends and families.
The people cheering the cast on were guests that were waiting to see the show. They had to be vaxxed and tested. They were theater community members and the like. Those people were waiting outside to go in to see a Broadway show. It wasn't as if they got bussed in to cheer for pay. That was a genuine response.
...and no, it really wasn't "staged", but of course someone was filming the reaction.
a) A cast doesn't arrive together in single file, at the same time, and walk by a waiting audience line. b) The cast appear to be entering through the front of the theatre, not the stage door. c) There is clearly a camera crew.
Again: "you are both right, at least to an extent. It WAS staged, but the thrill was genuine for the friends and families." These truths will not change by repetition.
"a) A cast doesn't arrive together in single file, at the same time, and walk by a waiting audience line."
They do when they have been quarantined in bubbles all week, and have been escorted from hotel to theater and back again every day. As a result, they have almost always arrived - and left - together as a group.
"b) The cast appear to be entering through the front of the theatre, not the stage door."
The stage door IS in the front of the theater, but the audience line was blocking it, so the cast entered through a larger gate on the opposite side of the lobby. That way the cast didn't have to cut through the audience line waiting outside AND go through a narrow stage door doorway. This was a way to ensure social distancing. That gateway has always been an alternative entrance/exit. It didn't hurt that it gave them a little extra time in front of the camera. Speaking of...
"c) There is clearly a camera crew."
OF COURSE there was a camera crew for the first Broadway cast returning to perform in front of an audience in over a year. We will probably see interviews with and reactions from those people as well.
...but what I really objected to was this:
"it's not a genuine reaction."
Which was absolutely not true.
eta: that's never stopped anyone here before, Hogan :)
based on their re-opening video; Jenn is Beverly, Q Smith is Hannah & Emily Walton is Janice. Looks like all swings were in attendance for the filming & rehearsals. Also, there's been no evidence if Chad Kimball did this or is still apart of the show.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
ACL2006 said: "based on their re-opening video;Jenn is Beverly, Q Smith is Hannah& Emily Walton is Janice. Looks like all swings were in attendance for the filming & rehearsals.Also, there's been no evidence if Chad Kimball did this or is still apart of the show."
Someone posted on Tony LePage's Facebook page that she was in the audience on Saturday and that she thought he (LePage) "was fantastic in the show."
**ETA
So LePage did perform in the show in some capacity, but it's not clear in what capacity. In a perfect world he will have replaced Kimball for the recording (though I don't think any of the CFA understudies are any good, but that's neither here nor there).
Fosse76 said: So LePage did perform in the show in some capacity, but it's not clear in what capacity. In a perfect world he will have replaced Kimball for the recording (though I don't think any of the CFA understudies are any good, but that's neither here nor there)."
So from a source that works saw the show, LePage did play Garth/Kevin T. Chad Kimball was not part of the filming.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
ACL2006 said: "So from a source that works with the show, LePage did play Garth/Kevin T. Chad Kimball was not part of the filming."
Interesting. I do hope it was a decision made by the show's producers, and for Kimball's Trumpism nonsense, (as opposed to his unavailability to be present for the filming).
Chad's also an anti-vaccer, so that likely hurts his chance to return to the show.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.