CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center- Page 2
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Matt Rogers
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/04
#25CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 11:26amCan someone who has seen it comment on the staging? I thought thsi was just to be a concert performance, and I pictured them standing at music stands with scripts. Apparently that is not the case. Is it a full production? Is there scenery? Costumes? Thanks for any info.
#26CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 11:41amNo, it is almost fully staged. Costumes, wigs, everyone is off-book. There are scenic elements but no scene changes. Beyond that, though, it is really very close to being fully staged.
"Get mad, then get over it." - Colin Powell
#27CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 1:03pm
"What are the script adaptations? Just cuts, or rewrites? I always wondered about this one- it seems as the years go by the "Billy isn't abusive, just misunderstood" plot rings hollower and hollower."
Hytner's staging certainly got away with it, when I saw it. I think even with the original script,if you perceive the message to be "Billy isn't abusive justmisundeerstood" you are seeing a terrible production. Yes the original script is uncomfortable to play, particularly as time goes by (though I suspect it always was--then again the 60s had a pop hit called He Hit Me and it Felt Like a Kiss, so who knows,) but still I don't think there ever was a defence implied that "Hey Billy isn't abusive, he's just misunderstood".
But I'm also curious about the "adaptation"for this.
#28CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 1:41pm
I didn't mean that Billy WAS misunderstood, more that he is perceived as such by the characters in the play. Billy is an inarticulate, immature man who resorts to brute force when nothing else can solve his problems. That sort of character wasn't as immediately demonized in the forties and fifties as it is today.
Perhaps the trouble is simply that Billy's "redemption," in which he cannot entirely overcome his tendency to use his fists instead of his heart, is played gradually as that- a redemption. The fact that he opens up and speaks words of love from his heart doesn't quite seem to make up for, or redeem, the fact that he occasionally beat his wife and came very close to beating his daughter- as a ghost, no less. It seems that the show knows Billy has a tragic flaw, but does not recognize what that flaw is. Perhaps it was simply "of its time," but as the flap over "Edwin Drood" showed (and in the guise of farce, at that), sometimes the change in sensibilities over time makes it harder to stomach certain relics and attitudes of the past, even when one dismisses it as "a different time."
#29CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 1:59pmRush tix up for tonight for $25. So looks like 2pm is the magic hour.
#30CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 2:04pmI walked up to the Box Office at 1pm and got a single orchestra for tonight for $25 with my very old student ID. I had called this morning and spoke with someone who said they were selling them. Worth giving a call and stopping by. I couldn't be more excited to see it tonight!
Aryn007
Understudy Joined: 3/24/04
#31CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 3:03pmThanks for this heads up, Broadwayworld.com users! Purchased my ticket online can't wait for tonight!
#32CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 3:17pmHow do you get the discount tickets online? I'm not seeing anything under $95 for tonight's performance.
#33CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 3:18pmYou choose your seats and then when you're ready to check out, there's a place at the bottom of the screen to enter the code RUSH.
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-Kad
#34CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 3:23pmThanks for the info! I'm sorry I'm so dense today, but if I enter the RUSH code, do I need to show student ID? I'm not a student, so that's out.
#35CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 3:28pmYes, it's unfortunately for students only. I believe they have also been offering other discounts price at $45 but I can't verify that.
Scratch and claw for every day you're worth!
Make them drag you screaming from life, keep dreaming
You'll live forever here on earth.
#36CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 3:45pm
Fell down a youtube rabbit hole in anticipation of the concert and I found this montage from the Lincoln Center Theater revival. So many great memories of that production, can't wait to create some new ones tonight!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skz2mdGr4Jw
#38CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 5:06pm
Just called about a ticket for a friend about an hour ago, got a great discount orchestra seat! The woman at the box office was super helpful and had tons of info about all the various discounts/rush prices, so if you're confused or pondering, I suggest just giving them a call.
SERIOUSLY DON'T MISS THIS.
"Get mad, then get over it." - Colin Powell
Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#39CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 5:59pmThis sounds like a magnificent production. However, the memory of the brilliant Goodspeed production is far too fresh in my mind to see this one. (I saw it several times)
"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)
#40CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 6:04pmShrek, their website has a pretty complete list of leads http://nyphil.org/ConcertsTickets/EventDetails.aspx?event=%7B66CEE563-B663-4BB4-B074-BF5BCA41FCCF%7D
#41CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 6:12pmTenorboyo, it's scheduled for April 26, though different PBS stations tend to broadcast it on different dates--but should be that week. Unfortunately often when they do full shows, they don't allow viewing of them online, but this may be an exception since more and more of thei recent shows are available that way.
#42CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 6:21pm
Darque--I see your point, but, while I agree with it more nowthat you've explained it, I don't fully. I'm not sure the characters do see him as misunderstood--even Julie, and if he weren't dead but really alive in the ending when Julie says her lines, I'm not sure she would, well say those lines. But that's problematic I guess so--and given the time, maybe she would've. (I'm arguing in circles.)
I do think the Hytner staging managed to subtly get around this, however, so it's not impossible to do. (My only real complaint with that staging is cutting Highest Judge of All--I know it was done "in one" originally and is often cut, and perhaps some feel makes Billy too sympathetic as well--though I also know many simply dislike the song.)
The movie of course manages to make this worse--simply by sentimentalizing the story (even with small things, like opening in Heaven and doing it as a flashback, or, due to the movie code, making Billy's death an accident instead of a suicide,) so the film, which some people take as *being* Carousel does the work no favours.
Maybe they can just hire Douglas Carter Beane to rewrite it--or simply restore the original ending of Liliom and have Billy go to Hell at the end. :P
#43CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 9:40pm
Isherwood's review of the production, I think we can call this one a big fat rave.
"From top to bottom this is as gorgeously sung a production of this sublime 1945 Broadway musical as you are ever likely to hear..."
NY Times Review
"Get mad, then get over it." - Colin Powell
Updated On: 2/28/13 at 09:40 PM
#44CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 9:51pm
Can't wait to see it!
So, any word from anyone about how exactly the book was "adapted?"
#45CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 9:59pmPlease move this to Broadway for the 2013-2014 season. Replace anyone who's not available, I just really want to this.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#46CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:09pmBut if they do, please choreograph the Carousel Waltz.
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Stand-by Joined: 11/10/10
#47CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:22pm
Seems like NYTimes review is not exactly a big fat rave since he had a reservation about Gunn's performance:
"Mr. Gunn seems to me a more natural Billy Budd — the doomed innocent in the Benjamin Britten opera from the Herman Melville novel — than a Billy Bigelow. Try though he does to act the sullen tough, he cannot quite keep his beaming wholesomeness in check (even wearing a black leather vest). The measure of any Billy Bigelow must be taken in the celebrated “Soliloquy,” and while Mr. Gunn sings it with impressive musical authority, I found his interpretation lacking in emotional dynamics. It felt studied instead of spontaneous, so we are not drawn into Billy’s conflicts as fully as we might be. Oddly — and fortunately — the ferocity that was missing here was in full display in Billy’s second-act solo, “The Highest Judge of All,” in which the now-dead Billy demands in the hereafter the chance he feels he was never granted in life."
#48CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:25pmOK maybe not a big fat rave, but I'd still call it a rave--maybe even a big rave.
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