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#726

Company Previews Thread

Rudy2 said: "I have been excited to see this show for months - just the thought of this particularly subject matter marking my first time at a Broadway show post-2020 was already an overwhelming prospect. Now, after Sondheim’s passing, it has a whole second level of importance.

I’m sure many can relate. This is just the show for the moment.


However, after reading some of the things people have said about the staging, I’m beginning to worry about whether this is worth a full price orchestra ticket. I’m bringing the man I love, and I know he’ll be shocked and spun out by this score being handled well…as long as the staging doesn’t make the cake fail to rise.

Also listened to a couple of selections from the 2018 London recording and was very dismayed at how abysmally cold and technical some of the performances (from actors who are not in this Broadway iteration, granted) are. The marks get hit, but sans gravitas or grit, which is precisely what I loathe about so much modern musical theater.

If I bring my guy to see this show, I want it to be an experience he will never get, that justifies the ticket price - certainly in his eyes. He just doesn’t go to Broadway shows, or musicals, or really know Sondheim. It’s so nice to have someone to bring to a show who will genuinely be surprised!

Do any of you know who have seen this in previews compare it favorably to the 2018 recording or production, if you got to see it in London?

Also, are seats in the first few rows too close for how this production looks, at least as of now?

Any advice would be much appreciated. I hate that I’m starting to have reservations about a show I am so excited to see that I have felt like I’m in high school again as I dream about the potential euphoria I’ll feel drinking it all in.

Sorry to be so scattered on this one!
"

I prefer sitting up close for this production, because I enjoy seeing the intricacy in the acting, especially from Lenk. You will get a better view of the set from mid orchestra or the front mezzanine.

I will also say the London cast album is pretty much lifeless compared to this production. The performances are not only better, but the overall sound of the score is fuller and livelier. There are also several changes to the orchestrations for Broadway, and they are delightful.

Updated On: 12/8/21 at 12:06 AM

#728

Company Previews Thread

Thank you! ^^


2010

Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)

#729

Company Previews Thread

Also, the official website for the show says we have up through January 17 to exchange or request a refund, but Broadway Box says the final day is February 28.

Does anyone know which date is or is more likely to be accurate?

I’m planning to see the show during the last two weeks of January.


2010

Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)

#730

Company Previews Thread

I'd avoid the sides. I was in second row 3 seats in from the aisle and missed a few moments of Bobbie in her kitchen (including her final bit at the end which I could hear but not see).

I loved the design and direction. I thought it consistently felt fresh and exciting. The one exception being the nightclub scene where I do wholeheartedly agree that Patti's blocking (or lack thereof) works against an incredible performance. I was sitting house left and questioned how Marianne Elliott decided to shaft half the audience by keeping Patti facing house right for the majority of the scene AND song.

#731

Company Previews Thread

orlikethecolorpurple said: "I'd avoid the sides. I was in second row 3 seats in from the aisle and missed a few moments of Bobbie in her kitchen (including her final bit at the end which I could hear but not see).

I loved the design and direction. I thought it consistently felt fresh and exciting. The one exception being the nightclub scene where I do wholeheartedly agree that Patti's blocking (or lack thereof) works against an incredible performance. I was sitting house left and questioned how Marianne Elliott decided to shaft half the audience by keeping Patti facing house right for the majority of the scene AND song.
"

I wonder if it’s possible this will be changed post-previews. If several people here are vocal about this staging being poor, it must have come to Elliot’s attention at this point.

Thank you for sharing!


2010

Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)

#732

Company Previews Thread

I found Lenk mannered and miscast. She has an hauteur and aloofness that work against the part. I never believed she would be interested in the other couples, who look like they wandered in from Secaucus….

#733

Company Previews Thread

I found Lenk mannered and miscast. She has an hauteur and aloofness that work against the part. I never believed she would be interested in the other couples, who look like they wandered in from Secaucus….

#734

Company Previews Thread

I believe Patti’s recent absences were due to chronic back problems. I don’t get to see the show until early January, but does anyone think this particular bit of staging could be a matter of necessity to spare Patti from having to worry about fighting her back issues at some performances while also giving an iconic performance? Or a way to allow her not to overstrain her back so to make it through repeated performances and her entire run? As someone who has battled sporadic back pain for years, I know how debilitating and unpredictable it can be.

Updated On: 12/8/21 at 02:02 AM

#735

Company Previews Thread

^^ If you’re right about this, it’s worth it to see her play this role, which is a gift we shouldn’t overlook, especially now

Can anyone share what the blocking was like for the London production?


2010

Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)

#736

Company Previews Thread

Miles2Go2 said: "I believe Patti’s recent absences were due to chronic back problems. I don’t get to see the show until early January, but does anyone think this particular bit of staging could be a matter of necessity to spare Patti from having to worry about fighting her back issues at some performances while also giving an iconic performance? Or a way to allow her not to overstrain her back so to make it through repeated performances and her entire run? As someone who has battled sporadic back pain for years, I know how debilitating and unpredictable it can be."

I suppose it's not impossible. I recall observing how War Paint staged around her being in obvious pain before her hip surgery. (She was often seated on a wagon and pushed out, as opposed to walking on and sitting.)

But also, she walks all over the stage the throughout the night, and has plenty of downtime.

I'll also note a friend who saw the show last night remarked to me how incredible and daring it was she does the entire scene and song sitting. I completely agree.

#737

Company Previews Thread

JaglinSays said: "I found Lenk mannered and miscast. She has an hauteur and aloofness that work against the part. I never believed she would be interested in the other couples, who look like they wandered in from Secaucus…."

I have not heard the best of things about Katrina Lenk as Bobbie. I think she is a great actress (I mean she's a Tony winner), but this role was not meant for her. Personally, I wish Marianne Elliott brought over Rosalie Craig from London. I mean, she was the FIRST EVER female Bobbie. Plus, people have been wanting her to cross the pond and perform on Broadway. I hope equity and producers don't pull another stunt as they did with Elaine Paige.


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
#738

Company Previews Thread

Rudy2 said: "^^ If you’re right about this, it’s worth it to see her play this role, which is a gift we shouldn’t overlook, especially now

Can anyone share what the blocking was like for the London production?
"

It was similarly seated. My personal take is it’s actually a dramatic choice because the director, who is a director of plays mainly not musicals, wanted to keep more honesty in the scene and do we really think Patti’s Joanne who screams seated for alcohol (one of my fav bits in terms of humour en she gets it!) and who loves to power play (see: her threatening to leave her husband) would be so desperate to stand to sell the number for us? No Patti’s Joanne demands that we come to her and meet her where she wants us to. Standing centre stage and pulling every trick to get the audience to give her attention would seem to be the kind of thing that the ‘Ladies Who Lunch’ do, not Patti’s Joanne.


Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
#739

Company Previews Thread

I completely agree. We’ve already seen Patti sing this number standing center stage and tossing her drink into the audience. I feel having her seated keeps her focused and in the moment. As much as I adore Patti, sometimes her mannerisms can get the best of her, but Marianne’s direction of the scene and song is extremely sharp.

#740

Company Previews Thread

I saw the original B'way cast (albeit Jane Russell for Stritch by that point) and the first national (end) with Julie Wilson as Joanne. Joanne always played the scene seated in the Prince staging.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#741

Company Previews Thread

Auggie27 said: "I saw the original B'way cast (albeit Jane Russell for Stritch by that point) and the first national (end) with Julie Wilson as Joanne. Joanne always played the scene seated in the Prince staging."

Did she not even stand for "Everybody rise!"?

#742

Company Previews Thread

If memory serves, Joanne never rose. The 4th wall is sufficiently broken by the song itself. To rise invites the audience to participate. I don't recall that in the staging. The number pulls Joanne out of the scene with Robert, but isn't "to" the audience per se. To my thinking it's ruminative -- a set of observations that annotate the scene and moment -- not an actual entreaty to a seated audience in X theater. Others may disagree but certainly Hal Prince was not fond of such concert-like behavior in his characters.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

Updated On: 12/8/21 at 10:39 AM

#743

Company Previews Thread

I'm also of the camp that agrees that the seated staging of TLWL is brilliant.

I'm not sure if it's an intentional homage or not, but we should also remember that in the Original Broadway Cast of Follies Phyllis sang "Could I Leave You?" completely seated to great effect.

There are two types of power: the type that's loud and boastful, and the type that draws you in. It says a lot about the character that she commands the entire scene without moving from her seat.

Did Stritch stand at all in the OBC? I thought she was also seated, but I could be misremembering. I've only seen the OBC reunion footage.

#744

Company Previews Thread

Alexis Smith was indeed seated for the entire "Could I Leave You?" I saw it twice.

Joanne doesn't need to rise. Her power is in the cynical entreaty to a sub-set of her generation, which is delivered from a woman sitting at a cocktail table, on a night out. I'd argue that the song works because of the incongruity of casual occasion vs gravity of sociological rumination.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

Updated On: 12/8/21 at 12:04 PM

#745

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Can anyone explain for us who has seen the production how the dialogue after “Ladies Who Lunch” is handled?

I found it so effective how Joanne drunkenly propositions Bobby and says she’ll “take care” of him. It’s infinitely touching on multiple levels, and really justifies “Being Alive.”

How does it vary with Bobbie instead of Bobby without sacrificing dramatic satisfaction?


2010

Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)

#746

Company Previews Thread

SPOILERS



Instead of Joanne propositioning Bobby/ie, she offers Larry to Bobbie while Joanne is at the gym on Tuesday.

"You can take care of him."

"And who is going to take care of me?"

"Did you hear what you just said? Did you hear what you just said, kiddo?"

"I didn't mean it like that."

"You just said you want someone to take care of you."

etc.

It definitely, to me, effectively brings her to the "what do you get" moment, but in a different way.

Hope that helps.


"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
#747

Company Previews Thread

ashley0139 said: "SPOILERS



Instead of Joanne propositioning Bobby/ie, she offers Larry to Bobbie while Joanne is at the gym on Tuesday.

"You can take care of him."

"And who is going to take care of me?"

"Did you hear what you just said? Did you hear what you just said, kiddo?"

"I didn't mean it like that."

"You just said you want someone to take care of you."

etc.

It definitely, to me, effectively brings her to the "what do you get" moment, but in a different way.

Hope that helps.
"

Thank you! It does. I like it, too. It feels modern, and fitting, and in keeping with the characters.

For a show that Sondheim and company continually referred to as being about “nothing,” I beg to differ, even though I know they were speaking with a slight wink when they said that. That it could be adapted so well for the 2020s is proof positive.


2010

Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)

#748

Company Previews Thread

I do need to share my biggest nit pick with the show - why is the flight attendant dressed like a captain? He is wearing captain's stripes. We don't need him wearing a captain's uniform to signify he works on planes. Flight attendants don't wear stripes. I found that very strange and it actually took me out of it. When a woman plays the role, she does not wear a captain's uniform.


"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
#749

Company Previews Thread

Flight Attendants do have stripes on their uniforms. I am one. Traditionally most airlines Flight Attendants have two stripes on their jackets. First Officers have three, and Captains have four.

#750

Company Previews Thread

Flight Attendants do have stripes on their uniforms. I am one. Traditionally most airlines Flight Attendants have one or two stripes on their jackets. First Officers have three, and Captains have four.

Updated On: 12/8/21 at 03:49 PM

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