Binau, what a beautiful message. I'm far younger than you but when you talk about your first experiences with musicals and Broadway, specifically Sondheim, it speaks to me very deeply. Ever since I first heard "Sunday' performed at a concert, I have been chasing that high. The utter ecstasy that is hearing such beautiful music performed by such talented actors. Nothing matches that high. Sondheim's music evokes something in me that could never be translated into words, but you got damn close.
Binau, your post also moved me greatly. I came to an appreciation of stage musicals, Broadway, and Sondheim relatively late in life compared to many. I saw my first professional production/touring show (A Chorus Line) in my late twenties (early 1990s). I had some peripheral knowledge of Sondheim from Barbra’s stunning 1985 The Broadway Album and his work on the 1990 Dick Tracy movie. Of course, I knew Send in the Clowns before that even if I had no idea who wrote it. I saw my first shows in NYC in 2010, but I didn’t see a Sondheim show until the most recent off-Broadway revival of Sweeney Todd. Other than that, the other Sondheim stage productions I’ve seen is a local 2019 production of Into The Woods and seeing the latest Broadway revival of West Side Story twice. But news of Sondheim’s passing hit me like a gut punch. Within days of his death, I booked myself for a two night trip to NYC in January to see both Assassins and Company. I simply cannot wait
Martijn-j said: "This is probably too soon to ask, but what are the chances of this production being filmed for future cinema or streaming release?"
Yeah, it is a bit early, but with the fact that pro-shots of broadway shows are becoming a thing now, it probably will be filmed. Especially after Sondheim's passing, the creative team behind this revival will want to preserve this version as it is the first major update of a Sondheim classic. However, I do not know if Patti will participate since she is VERY old-school! If she hates cell phones in the theatre, what makes us think she would want a full production of cameras in the theatre. I could be very wrong on that, but that's my belief. Overall, I think later in the run, before most of the cast start leaving, they will capture the show and put it away for future release.
The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
It was supposed to be Patti's revival of GYPSY that was to be filmed, in early 09. But the Great Recession brought an early close, a couple weeks before they were to film it. (Imelda's, then, got lucky.)
I don't know if they would film it. There are already 2 filmed versions of the show (John Doyle's revival, and the NY Phil concert) plus the cast album documentary...but, I could be wrong.
"Ok ok ok ok ok ok ok. Have you guys heard about fidget spinners!?" ~Patti LuPone
I think they’d want to preserve the final Broadway revival Sondheim was involved in, he was also very proud of the production. But first, let’s get a cast recording. The London album is mostly mediocre. I want to hear this new cast and the updated orchestrations.
I think there’s a higher chance of them wanting to preserve this on film because it’s such a different take on a classic Sondheim show, and he was actually involved. We don’t need a twelfth version of Sweeney Todd recorded (with all the same takes/perspectives) but something like this production is worth preserving.
I have seen hundreds of shows, and I very rarely get “that feeling” during a show. The chills, the absolute focus on the show, knowing you are seeing something that is changing your life. I got it with grey gardens, and ragtime, and come from away, and this past Saturday night, I got it with this version of company. I saw the 2007 (?) revival and loved it, but it didn’t affect me deeply. This version did.
Katrina is absolutely revelatory and there are very few performances in my life I have enjoyed more. I have heard the criticisms about her voice and, while she’s not a traditional belter, I could not have possibly cared less. Her acting was out of this world and made me feel every moment of those songs. Especially Being Alive. I absolutely adored her version so much. Her last note was actually belted and sounded amazing, but that’s really beside the point. I do not understand the criticism and am glad there are others on this board who feel the same.
Patti was of course incredible and I am so, so glad she was back in for the Saturday night show. The sold out audience ate up every moment. I honestly loved every moment of the whole show and hope to see it again when I come back in February for music man, but I just cannot stop thinking about Katrina’s performance.
"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
Okay. So I'm gonna be the contrarian here which is a role I rarely play. I was there tonight and I have seen many productions of Company from the original with Dean Jones and Elaine Stritch, The Kennedy Center production with John Barrowman and Lynn Redgrave, John Doyle's take on it with Raul Esparza and The Philharmonic production with Neil Patrick Harris and Patti Lupone. I'm indeed a fan and found this interpretation of Bobbie to be genius and found the cast engaging. The problem for me was the staging of this production where literally I found that Ms. Elliot "boxed" herself in with this concept. Pun intended. I found the physical production so limiting because of these small cramped spaces as if she was stuck with this set and decided to make the best of it. If this was conceived at a small theatre in London, like the Menier Chocolate Factory I could understand it, but with the resources at hand at the National I felt the concept limited the musicality of the evening.The only time that it worked for me was the terrific work on Getting Married today, and of course the transposition to Jamie was a highlight. Yes, the cast was game but I felt hindered by the physical concept of the production. Side By Side By Side was too busy with tables and chairs to really take off on it's own. The revamped Tick Tock replacement was clever but I missed the soaring choreographic possibilities of the original. You now have a third boyfriend from You Can Drive a Person Crazy who literally has nothing to do. What a chance to recreate the original for a terrific male dancer or perhaps a sensual Pas de Deux. This production lacked choreography and felt like it used clever musical staging to compensate for a cast devoid of dancing ability. I found The Ladies Who Lunch unmotivated on that cramped set and Patti was stuck on a swivel chair and played a huge part of the number facing Bobbie. She couldn't come downstage off of that box and deliver a true 11 o'clock number? I could go on but I was so underwhelmed by a physical concept that for me worked against the material despite the talents onstage that often compensated for a director's physical concept. I believe this was Ms. Elliot's first musical and it felt like it, despite her amazing work on War Horse, The Dog in the Nigh-time and other stunningly staged pieces. Those damn boxes drove me to distraction. Yes, I am a minority opinion here on this and I expect the show to get the reviews that much of the contributors on this site believe but for me? I'm just surprisingly disappointed.
Did you miss the entire Alice in Wonderland concept? The boxes are a direct reference to that concept. The combination of the apartments we all live in, the compartments of Bobbi’s mind and the locked doors Bobbi opens made, for me, a physical production that was a revelation. Did you notice “35” was everywhere? These were not meant to be wholly realistic environments.
The show was simply amazing. Loved it from beginning to end. The supporting players really shined. It will be hard to pick out the standouts come Tony time when they'll have to compete against other shows/performers.
nycward said: "I found The Ladies Who Lunch unmotivated on that cramped set and Patti was stuck on a swivel chair and played a huge part of the number facing Bobbie. She couldn't come downstage off of that box and deliver a true 11 o'clock number? "
i think you make good points here re the claustrophobia of the production and i think i'd disagree in that i think it was intentional and more importantly, i think it worked at end of day. but i had the same thought re Ladies Who Lunch. I was surprised Patti stayed seated the entire number, and was sure that as Joanne loses her cool in the number, she'd rise (sorry) and let loose a bit. Just was odd and underwhelming staging.
Minor point but I don’t think this was a National Theatre production in London and was certainly not at the National like many of her other productions that transferred.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Yes. I did notice the Alice In Wonderland imagery as well as the rest of the childhood imagery from the Poster to the Side By Side children Birthday party. I'm just not sure what that brings to the fears of adult, loneliness which is the foundation of this musical. Also, thinking back on the Ladies Who Lunch, Patti sits on a swivel chair for the entire song mostly facing audience right (I was audience left) and never gets up.
"EVERBODY SIT.....SIT....SIT....SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
Not sure why she tolerated a staging that never supported her star turn.
Did you miss the entire Alice in Wonderland concept? The boxes are a direct reference to that concept. The combination of the apartments we all live in, the compartments of Bobbi’s mind and the locked doors Bobbi opens made, for me, a physical production that was a revelation. Did you notice “35” was everywhere? These were not meant to be wholly realistic environments."
For those of us who won't get a chance to see it, can you explain the Alice in Wonderland concept and how that relates to making the set into a series of small, cramped spaces?
binau said: "Minor point but I don’t think this was a National Theatre production in London and was certainly not at the National like many of her other productions that transferred."
nycward said: "The problem for me was the staging of this production where literally I found that Ms. Elliot "boxed" herself in with this concept. Pun intended. I found the physical production so limiting because of these small cramped spaces as if she was stuck with this set and decided to make the best of it. If this was conceived at a small theatre in London, like the Menier Chocolate Factory I could understand it, but with the resources at hand at the National I felt the concept limited the musicality of the evening."
Tell me you have a miopic view of successful musical staging without telling me you have a miopic view of successful musical staging. If the concept went over your head, just say that. It's not a stretch to understand that sometimes the most painful loneliness is when one is in a room/life full of people. Which is intrinsic in the piece as-written and amplified by Elliott's conscious decisions to crowd Katrina both physically and mentally through the course of the show. The only moments she has the freedom of the full stage are in her big numbers, where she's most free with her thoughts and emotions.
You complain about the lack of choreography (and assume it's a lack of ability in one of the most talented casts on Broadway at the moment)...did you know you were purchasing a ticket to see Sondheim's Company or did you think American In Paris had moved into the Jacobs over shutdown?
OhHiii said: "nycward said: "The problem for me was the staging of this production where literally I found that Ms. Elliot "boxed" herself in with this concept. Pun intended. I found the physical production so limiting because of these small cramped spaces as if she was stuck with this set and decided to make the best of it. If this was conceived at a small theatre in London, like the Menier Chocolate Factory I could understand it, but with the resources at hand at the National I felt the concept limited the musicality of the evening."
Tell me you have a miopic view of successful musical staging without telling me you have a miopic view of successful musical staging. If the concept went over your head, just say that. It's not a stretch to understand that sometimes the most painful loneliness is when one is in a room/life full of people. Which is intrinsic in the piece as-written and amplified by Elliott's conscious decisions to crowd Katrina both physically and mentally through the course of the show. The only moments she has the freedom of the full stage are in her big numbers, where she's most free with her thoughts and emotions.
You complain about the lack of choreography (and assume it's a lack of ability in one of the most talented casts on Broadway at the moment)...did you know you were purchasing a ticket to see Sondheim's Company or did you think American In Paris had moved into the Jacobs over shutdown?
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Tell me you are obnoxious and lack the capacity to respect people with differing views...
JDonaghy4 said: "OhHiii said: "nycward said: "The problem for me was the staging of this production where literally I found that Ms. Elliot "boxed" herself in with this concept. Pun intended. I found the physical production so limiting because of these small cramped spaces as if she was stuck with this set and decided to make the best of it. If this was conceived at a small theatre in London, like the Menier Chocolate Factory I could understand it, but with the resources at hand at the National I felt the concept limited the musicality of the evening."
Tell me you have a miopic view of successful musical staging without telling me you have a miopic view of successful musical staging. If the concept went over your head, just say that. It's not a stretch to understand that sometimes the most painful loneliness is when one is in a room/life full of people. Which is intrinsic in the piece as-written and amplified by Elliott's conscious decisions to crowd Katrina both physically and mentally through the course of the show. The only moments she has the freedom of the full stage are in her big numbers, where she's most free with her thoughts and emotions.
You complain about the lack of choreography (and assume it's a lack of ability in one of the most talented casts on Broadway at the moment)...did you know you were purchasing a ticket to see Sondheim's Company or did you think American In Paris had moved into the Jacobs over shutdown?
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Tell me you are obnoxious and lack the capacity to respect people with differing views..."
Because this board is such a bastion of respect for others' opinions. K.
In regards to a potential pro-shot: was it ever explained why there were 7-10 professional cameras posted throughout the theatre at the first preview?
I would guess to tape B-roll/promo footage but they all taped the full entire performance. And having sat behind the two cameras in the front mezz - each camera had clear directives on what they were supposed to tape.
It amazes me how different the reception to this production is on the other board. I have a feeling the reviews will be closer to the reaction on here.
ljay889 said: "It amazes me how different the reception to this production is on the other board. I have a feeling the reviews will be closer to the reaction on here."
I hope you're right,ljay889. Btw,are you referring to the All That Chat message board? That one is quite negative regarding Katrina Lenk. Most of the posters on there don't like her for some reason. Someone called her "The Weakest Lenk" during the first week of previews, which I thought was rather nasty.
I have been excited to see this show for months - just the thought of this subject matter marking my first time at a Broadway show post-2020 was already an overwhelming prospect. Now, after Sondheim’s passing, it has a whole second level of importance.
I’m sure many can relate. This is just the show for the moment.
However, after reading some of the things people have said about the staging, I’m beginning to worry about whether this is worth a full price orchestra ticket. I’m bringing the man I love, and I know he’ll be shocked and spun out by this score being handled well…as long as the staging doesn’t make the cake fail to rise.
Also listened to a couple of selections from the 2018 London recording and was very dismayed at how abysmally cold and technical some of the performances (from actors who are not in this Broadway iteration, granted) are. The marks get hit, but sans gravitas or grit, which is precisely what I loathe about so much modern musical theater.
If I bring my guy to see this show, I want it to be an experience he will never get, that justifies the ticket price - certainly in his eyes. He just doesn’t go to Broadway shows, or musicals, or really know Sondheim. It’s so nice to have someone to bring to a show who will genuinely be surprised!
Do any of you know who have seen this in previews compare it favorably to the 2018 recording or production, if you got to see it in London?
Also, are seats in the first few rows too close for how this production looks, at least as of now?
Any advice would be much appreciated. I hate that I’m starting to have reservations about a show I am so excited to see that I have felt like I’m in high school again as I dream about the potential euphoria I’ll feel drinking it all in.
Sorry to be so scattered on this one!
2010
Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)
binau said: "WOW. Only at intermission but the show has improved SO MUCH since the west end. It’s like they’ve mined every moment for as much depth and humour as possible, especially and including Katrina who is giving an incredible acting performance and in my opinion unfairly criticised in terms of vocals. Rosalie who?"
I’m certainly glad to hear this!
2010
Feb. 28 - Looped, Feb. 28 - Next to Normal, March 4 - Hair, March 11 - A Little Night Music, March 24 - Time Stands Still, April 6 - La Cage Aux Folles, April 10 - Anyone Can Whistle (City Center), April 10 - Looped, May 9 - Enron, May 15 - A Little Night Music, May 15 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Behanding In Spokane, May 30 - A Little Night Music, June 20 - A Little Night Music, June 23 - Red, June 23 - Sondheim on Sondheim, July 13 - A Little Night Music, July 18 - The Grand Manner (Lincoln Center)