Cuomo Snubs Broadway — Page 3

Broadway Flash said: "The only one that seems determined and untethered from realityis YOU. If it’s not safe to be in a theatre, it sure as hell ain’t safe to be in a museum with thousands of people coming through every day spreading the virus."

Nice try at deflection but untethered to the reality. Perhaps you have trouble reading the English language, because every word about museums has been about restrictive entry; no one is contemplating "thousands of people" or "spreading the virus." Let's start with what has been said and proceed with logic. Thanks for playing.

another good place to get a sense of next steps is Hong Kong.

JennH said: "As there seem to be no other good place to post this...

Um, it's called the off topic board where currently two threads regarding politics and the election are active.

Broadway Flash said: "Restricting entry is not going to pay the cost of running.
Also, the 13 million is what they get from the met ball alone. They charge over 100,000 to have an event there. It’s a shame this happened on their 150th anniversary."

If the Met finds itself restricting the number of people that can come, or having people come in and sign up for a particular time frame etc they will be fine. Any money gained is obviously more than they had before. Also, they can afford to run it that way should they so choose.

Also, as far as Broadway goes, one possibility I can see is if they decide to limit audience size due to social distancing, what is gonna stop producers for raising ticket prices to try to earn the same amount as always? And, Broadway flash, Great that you read what you can. It is, but it is important to figure out who is spouting bull**** and who's work is worthwhile to read in th first place.

In Florida and Arkansas they allowed the horse racing to go on with no spectators. (Except for Triple Crown races and Saratoga, no one goes to the race tracks any more. They bet over the Internet.) Now Kentucky and California are going to allow their tracks to run races, since there was no negative fallout from Florida.

That is still, of course, a long way from people packed together in grandstands and theaters, but I think there's going to be a lot of testing the limits. Western Europe will provide input as well as they reopen.

If there are no setbacks, pressure will build to reopen. A lot of people just need the money to pay mortgage, rent and taxes. Others who may not have that many summers left will not want to waste one confined to their homes.

If an increasing number of states reopen without incident, there will be great pressure on all the state governors to fall into line. Of course that's a big if.

There is now a commercial on tv here with a voice over by Lin Maneul Miranda calling this an Intermission and that Broadway will see us after intermission. I have seen it a few times in the past week. I think I saw it first during SNL last week.

HogansHero said: "zainmax said: "I think that itll eventually recover but not anytime soon and youll probably see more people being cautious —which is a good thing"

I agree it will "recover" and that it will take time. I added the quotation marks because things will be different; there will be new rules and there will be new economics. What will it look like and when? No one knows, nor could they."

Well, what do you think?

zainmax said: "Well, what do you think?"

I think the theatre recovery will be inextricably bound to, and lagging behind, the overall course of the virus, which is unknown. I think we have two questions, one being what survives which in turn depends on the second, the course of the virus. I think it is reasonable to assume that we will have a ubiquitous and effective vaccine at some point within the next year or two, at which point there will be a rebuilding process, but what institutions will be around at that stage? History (meaning in places like HK) teaches us a lot and not many of us seem aware as we prognosticate. I think two other things: 1. That we will see a short term evolution from voluntary fund-raisers to pay-per-view theatre (both commercial and not) and 2. That this pandemic will produce some of the greatest theatre we have come upon in a long long time.

Broadway Flash said: "Restricting entry is not going to pay the cost of running.
Also, the 13 million is what they get from the met ball alone. They charge over 100,000 to have an event there. It’s a shame this happened on their 150th anniversary."

Your opinion might be that the Met makes most of its money from galas and events, but the facts say otherwise. You can easily look it up online. Or do some back of the napkin math and see that even if they did one event a day that generated $100k, it still wouldn't cover 1/3 of their annual budget.

Broadway Flash said: "Hogan, do you understand they have to pay the curators and the artists working on their exhibits? People constantly coming in and out of the museum tobuild them. This costsmillions of dollars that they wouldn'thave to pay if they were shut down. Limiting the amount of people to come in will not pay the bills and will ultimately be a huge loss for the government if they are to open up."

What I understand is that in the calculus of reopening on a restricted basis, they would not be installing new exhibits. I can't believe you would not understand that.

What I don't understand is "will ultimately be a huge loss for the government." What in heaven's name are you talking about?

Ms. St. Martin clearly stated the League's position in the Deadline.Com interview:

“We just said that [at that point] we were exchanging and refunding tickets up to June 7. I mean, every couple of days our guesstimates go further out. As late as two weeks ago we were thinking that with any luck we might be up by July and that a worst case scenario might be September. Now the best guesses are that unless there’s serious testing and information that we don’t currently have, we’re probably looking at September or later.”

She also referenced ticket sales as a barometer. So even if the Gov authorized theater opening tomorrow, doesn't mean the industry would remove the padlocks the day. The time she spends sitting on a committee, it's time wasting doing something more productive. I venture she and the industry "powers that be" communicate with the Govenor's office or reps.

https://deadline.com/2020/04/reopening-broadway-charlotte-st-martin-broadway-league-candid-conversation-1202910054/

The Met may be non-profit, but don't they tax the tickets, merchandise, food, drinks, salaries, etc.? The government does get $ from the theater industries, so I presumed he referenced taxes though not specifically stated.

Cuomo 's plan to reopen seems like it was drawn up by someone not playing with a full deck. It sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption. It is so convoluted I defy anyone to make sense of it. The part.you really will not like is how it will play out relating to Broadway. You will not like it.

The reopening is built up in 4 sections. #3 Restaurants and Hotels .Last group #4 Arts and Entertainment. Broadway just got a huge middle finger. It aint opening anytime soon.He also ripped large gatherings,. Broadway Concerts and Sporting events.

Thoughts

Updated On: 5/4/20 at 04:35 PM