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Diversity on Broadway#350
Posted: 10/20/15 at 4:48pm
You are a very special kind of cretin.
Diversity on Broadway#351
Posted: 10/20/15 at 4:50pm
"you CANNOT cast a non-black person as the main characters."
WHO CARES about the origin of the actor?
Stop it, you racist.
Of course I understand the importance of the characters race but that has nothing to do with the actor.
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 04:50 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Diversity on Broadway#353
Posted: 10/20/15 at 4:51pm
Dave19 said: " "you CANNOT cast a non-black person as the main characters."
WHO CARES about the origin of the actor?
Stop it, you racist.
Of course I understand the importance of the characters race but that has nothing to do with the actor.
"
Why have I not blocked you yet? I want to so badly, but I can't bring myself to it...
Is it because the ignorance disolayed in your posts so fascinating??
Who knows...
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 04:51 PM
Diversity on Broadway#354
Posted: 10/20/15 at 4:53pm
Dave19, are you friends with hork? If not, you should be. If you're not the same person, that is.
Diversity on Broadway#355
Posted: 10/20/15 at 4:55pm
"You know what makes me glad, though? The fact that you're not a casting director."
You know, I am. And moving towards Broadway.
And you know, I WILL invite African American, Asian and Latino guys to audition for Raoul in Phantom. And I WILL give them a chance to play "an early 20th century white English aristocrat". That's what acting is about.
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 04:55 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Diversity on Broadway#357
Posted: 10/20/15 at 4:58pm
Diversity on Broadway#358
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:07pm
God, I love when it crosses over from awful to full-tilt bat-sh*t crazy!
Diversity on Broadway#359
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:19pm
Dave19 said: " "You know what makes me glad, though? The fact that you're not a casting director."
You know, I am. And moving towards Broadway.
And you know, I WILL invite African American, Asian and Latino guys to audition for Raoul in Phantom. And I WILL give them a chance to play "an early 20th century white English aristocrat". That's what acting is about. "
That's great that you are willing to see them for an "English aristocrat," but what about for roles in Phantom, which takes place in the Paris Opera House?
Earlier you said that Christine can't be played by an African-American actress because it's not historically accurate. So how about the various African-American actors who have played Carlotta and Piangi, the current "stars" of the Paris Opera in the time frame of the show? Does that bother you because it's not "historically accurate"? If it doesn't bother you, then why is it ok for those characters but not for Christine?
Diversity on Broadway#360
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:22pmI just hope the OP, who hasn't been heard from since, has had her question answered!
Diversity on Broadway#361
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:28pm
" Earlier you said that Christine can't be played by an African-American actress because it's not historically accurate. So how about the various African-American actors who have played Carlotta and Piangi, the current "stars" of the Paris Opera in the time frame of the show? Does that bother you because it's not "historically accurate"? If it doesn't bother you, then why is it ok for those characters but not for Christine?"
I said that the role of Christine should not be presented as such. I don't care about the origin of the actress.
I also don't care about the origin of the actors playing Carlotta and Piangi, but 2 opera stars in that era being african american is extremely unbelievable and I don't like to have to turn a blind eye, as its easy for them to present the role as any historically accurate race.
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 05:28 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Diversity on Broadway#362
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:32pm
Dave19 said: "" Earlier you said that Christine can't be played by an African-American actress because it's not historically accurate. So how about the various African-American actors who have played Carlotta and Piangi, the current "stars" of the Paris Opera in the time frame of the show? Does that bother you because it's not "historically accurate"? If it doesn't bother you, then why is it ok for those characters but not for Christine?"
I said that the role of Christine should not be presented as such. I don't care about the origin of the actress.
I also don't care about the origin of the actors playing Carlotta and Piangi, but 2 opera stars in that era being african american is extremely unbelievable and I don't like to have to turn a blind eye, as its easy for them to present the role as any historically accurate race.
"
Yet you can totally turn a blind eye to the fact that these characters are bursting into song and dance...
Using makeup to make someone change race is still inexcusable.
Diversity on Broadway#363
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:39pm
I find this thread interesting, even though the racism is abhorrent, I'm glad to see most people have the right idea when it comes to colorblind casting.
But I just came to comment and say that I almost had a heart attack laughing at the "Dave 19 is a race troll" song! I think that beneath the effects, Phyllis must have an excellent voice. Can I get a real example of your singing? Carry on, and thanks for the laugh!
Diversity on Broadway#364
Posted: 10/20/15 at 5:52pm
Dave19 said: "I said that the role of Christine should not be presented as such. I don't care about the origin of the actress.
I also don't care about the origin of the actors playing Carlotta and Piangi, but 2 opera stars in that era being african american is extremely unbelievable and I don't like to have to turn a blind eye, as its easy for them to present the role as any historically accurate race."
Your statements are contradicting each other. Clearly you do care about the origin of the actors, since you can't believe that anyone other than a white person would be on the stage of the fictitious Paris Opera House. A world that has a deformed musical genius and quasi-magician living in the basement, seducing and kidnapping young sopranos through their dressing room mirrors.
Diversity on Broadway#365
Posted: 10/20/15 at 6:21pm
Please don't confuse 2 things. Accuracy of a role versus origin of the actor. Any actor can play anything.
It seems like people can't think clear when the word "race" is involved.
So let me give another example. A 25 year old girl can play the granny/bird woman in Mary Poppins. She can, because she is an actress. Yes, she needs to act, maybe adjust her look and voice. There is no need to to put any personal frustrations in there, because she is something else than what she plays. It is also not racist towards old lady's because they are wonderful.
I don't care if it's a green dwarf playing the granny, as long as it's believable, looks, voice, story, era and acting wise.
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 06:21 PM
Diversity on Broadway#366
Posted: 10/20/15 at 6:28pm
Dave19 said: "There is no need to to put any personal frustrations in there, because she is something else than what she plays. It is also not racist towards old lady's because they are wonderful."
You're absolutely delightful.
Diversity on Broadway#367
Posted: 10/20/15 at 6:32pm
And any shade of the rainbow for that matter.
But personal stuff and background doesn't really matter for the discussion, neither for casting. It's the final product that counts.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Diversity on Broadway#368
Posted: 10/20/15 at 6:34pm
"It seems like people can't think clear when the word "race" is involved."
And, it seems you are becoming increasingly self-aware. You are not thinking straight. You also weren't a couple of months ago when a similar discussion took place.
" It is also not racist towards old lady's because they are wonderful."
Old lady is a race? WHO KNEW?!?
Diversity on Broadway#369
Posted: 10/20/15 at 6:38pm
Dave19 always shows up in topics about diversity. Always. It's remarkable, really. He posts so rarely otherwise, but these are like a friggin dog whistle for him.
Diversity on Broadway#370
Posted: 10/20/15 at 6:43pm
Edit: If the actress refuses to put on the grey wig, because it doesn't match her personal desire of being young, she shouldn't be an actress, of course.
And this goes for, age, look, make up, skin color of fellow actors that play family members, era, type, clothing, editing, anything really. That's acting. Of course.
If you want to play the bird woman in Mary Poppins from that era with a princess jasmine look, be my guest, but do it at home in your bedroom please.
I can play a dinosaur in Jurassic World the musical if I want to. No matter what color make up they give me. And no matter what personal insecurities I might have, or how many personal characteristics I wish to let shine through. Acting is above that.
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 06:43 PMBroadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Diversity on Broadway#371
Posted: 10/20/15 at 7:31pm
Age, social status, and species can be costumed. It happens all the time--
Someone's race, however, is not a costume! What don't you understand???
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 07:31 PMDiversity on Broadway#372
Posted: 10/20/15 at 7:43pm
Many races have played Christine in Phantom as a white girl in the ballet of an early 20th century opera.
All wig and make up.
What don't you understand?
Actors can adapt.
Updated On: 10/20/15 at 07:43 PM
Diversity on Broadway#373
Posted: 10/20/15 at 7:57pm
"I need my loopy paranormal gothic psychoromances to adhere rigidly to casting regulations of an imaginary 19th-century French opera company! If this isn't followed to the T, my suspense is completely ruined! How could I possibly believe a black woman would be able to float through a mirror and fall under the spell of a mystical, deformed madman???"
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
Diversity on Broadway#374
Posted: 10/20/15 at 7:59pm
Dave19 said: "Many races have played Christine in Phantom as a white girl in the ballet of an early 20th century opera.
All wig and make up.
What don't you understand?
Actors can adapt.
"
Not as a white girl, no.
They just played Christine...the character.
Your turn...
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