Flying Over Sunset - Previews Thread- Page 16

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 2:43pm

Only time will tell if this indeed is a "massive flop."

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 2:58pm

Have they announced a cast recording?

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 2:58pm

Double post

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 4:57pm

Any reports on the running time this week? Is the second act any shorter? When I saw it it ran about a minute under 3 hours. The second act needs to be much shorter. Half way through it I started feeling resentful. 

Playwrights have such a hard time editing their work. Will be interested to see if Lapine cuts anything.

[Luscious]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:26pm

After reading through some of the negative (i.e. bitchy) criticisms in this thread (for a show that's still in previews, no less), it's no wonder why new, original Broadway musicals are so far and few between. If this board is an example of what the so-called "theatre community" is all about, I'm glad I'm not part of it. More than a few people here come off as if they're rooting for the show to fail. You know... the ones who always have to be first in line to see a new show, just so they can rush here (often during intermission or as they're leaving the theatre), to tear it to shreds with their "witty" and "clever" critiques. I can appreciate differing opinions and constructive criticism, but if you truly dislike or loathe a show and have nothing good to say about it, do all the performers, creative teams, union workers, and real theatre lovers a favor and keep your pie hole shut...at least until after it opens. Some of the best shows I've seen were slammed here during previews. I'm seeing this show on Dec 1, so I'm unable to offer my opinion of it at this time, but I can assure you that if I love it, I'll be back on Dec 2 to sing its praises. And if I don't, I'll respectively withhold my criticisms. It's going to be difficult enough getting people's asses in seats this winter. The "theatre community" doesn't need a bunch of Negative Nellies and Debbie Downers dissuading others from getting back out and seeing a show, especially a new one. Leave that to the "professional" critics, of which there are already far too many.

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:38pm

Luscious said: "After reading through some of the negative (i.e. bitchy) criticisms in this thread (for a show that's still in previews, no less), it's no wonder why new, original Broadway musicals are so far and few between. If this board is any example of what the so-called "theatre community" is all about, I'm glad I'm not part of it. More than a few people here come off as if they're rooting for the show to fail. You know, the ones who always have to be first in line to see a new show, just so they can tear it to shreds with their "witty" and "clever" critiques. I can appreciate differing opinions and constructive criticism, but if you truly dislike or loathe a show and have nothing good to say about it, do all the performers, creative teams, union workers, and real theatre lovers a favor and keep your pie hole shut...at least until after it opens. Some of the best shows I've seen were slammed here during previews. I'm seeing this show on Dec 1, so I'm unable to offer my opinion of it at this time, but I can assure you that if I love it, I'll be back on Dec 2 to sing its praises. And if I don't, I'll respectively withhold my criticisms. It's going to be difficult enough getting people's asses in seats this winter. The "theatre community" doesn't need a bunch of negative Nellies and Debbie Downers dissuading others from getting back out and seeing a show."

Hope you're not talking about me. I was very much so rooting for this show.  It's just unfortunately very bad and would require pretty much throwing the whole show out as is and starting from square one.  If they're charging and I'm paying for a ticket, I will criticize this show all I want.  I'm also hugely disappointed that an original show opening cold like this isn't good.  I really wanted it to be.

It's not that I think people shouldn't go see a Broadway show, I would just recommend not seeing this one.  Unless they somehow magically find a great show within this absolute mess.

[Luscious]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:41pm

Right on queue. 

[Skip23]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:44pm

Wait…it’s alright to slaughter DIANA but we have to give slack to SUNSET just because it’s “original”?  Or the covidpause is the excuse to let a show off from negative criticism? And when Producers don’t let the audience members off from such high prices after such a period of financial hardship?

Sorry…no. 
 

 

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:45pm

Luscious said: "Right on queue."

Hope you don't break your hip hopping off that high horse.

[Luscious]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:47pm

Georgeanddot2 said: "Luscious said: "Right on queue."

Hope you don't break your hip hopping off that high horse."

How delightfully clever and witty. Thanks for proving my point.

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:51pm

Luscious said: "Georgeanddot2 said: "Luscious said: "Right on queue."

Hope you don't break your hip hopping off that high horse."

How delightfully witty and clever. Thanks for proving my point."

I know this is Tom Kitt crying behind that Madonna profile.

[Luscious]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 5:56pm

Georgeanddot2 said: "Luscious said: "Georgeanddot2 said: "Luscious said: "Right on queue."

Hope you don't break your hip hopping off that high horse."

How delightfully witty and clever. Thanks for proving my point."

I know this is Tom Kitt crying behind that Madonna profile."

And proving it over and over again. My dear Georgeanddot2, I knew Margo... and, my dear, you're no Margo.

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:03pm

Luscious said: "Georgeanddot2 said: "Luscious said: "Georgeanddot2 said: "Luscious said: "Right on queue."

Hope you don't break your hip hopping off that high horse."

How delightfully witty and clever. Thanks for proving my point."

I know this is Tom Kitt crying behind that Madonna profile."

And proving it over and over again. My dear Georgeanddot2, I knew Margo... and, my dear, you're no Margo."

Take your pills. It's past your bedtime, "my dear."

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:06pm

Criticism isn’t being a Debbie Downer. I bought my ticket for the second preview day-of after reading the great first preview notices and was very much looking forward to it. I walked away not enjoying it, but that doesn’t make my opinion any less valid than the glowing praise others have heaped on it. Not every show is for everyone.

[Luscious]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:09pm

ColorTheHours048 said: "Criticism isn’t being a Debbie Downer. I bought my ticket for the second preview day-of after reading the great first preview notices and was very much looking forward to it. I walked away not enjoying it, but that doesn’t make my opinion any less valid than the glowing praise others have heaped on it. Not every show is for everyone."

Missing my point entirely.

 

[ArtMan]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:17pm

Luscious, Are you going to the matinee or evening performance on December 1?  I'll be at the matinee.

[ArtMan]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:18pm

For those who have seen it....is the "magazine" worth purchasing ?

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:19pm

Luscious said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "Criticism isn’t being a Debbie Downer. I bought my ticket for the second preview day-of after reading the great first preview notices and was very much looking forward to it. I walked away not enjoying it, but that doesn’t make my opinion any less valid than the glowing praise others have heaped on it. Not every show is for everyone."

Missing my point entirely.

"

I think ColorTheHours gets your point perfectly.  You're spreading toxic positivity.  That we should all repress our feelings about this show for the greater good of Broadway.  Sorry but we're paying audience members and we're entitled to have our opinion on it.

This was a mess.  They're no longer in rehearsals, they're performing for paying audiences. They have now opened themselves up to criticism from that audience.  We're not being bitchy, we're having the appropriate reaction to having paid to see such a half-baked 3 hour 1st draft of an aimless and meaningless new musical.

ArtMan said: "For those who have seen it....is the "magazine" worth purchasing ?"

 

It's only a $1 and yes. It provides some context to the show.

 

 

[ArtMan]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 6:41pm

Georgeanddot2, Thanks for the info.

[Skip23]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 7:27pm

Speaking of the magazine:  can’t see any of the pictures because of faded coloring. Geesh. 

[Kad]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 7:53pm

I think dramatizing doing psychedelics is very, very tricky, as it is largely a very internal journey the weight of which is really hard to get across to others. I’ve had truly profound and enlightening experiences doing shrooms… but, in the moment, I was just, like, staring at the ceiling. I can’t really articulate why it was profound, but it was a very deep feeling that is mine and mine alone. 
 

I’m not saying it’s impossible to dramatize- I think Hair’s acid trip sequence is pretty successful at capturing the feeling of it, although it’s only like a 15 minute portion of a larger show. But it’s tricky, because you have to both open it up and convey the enormity or profundity of the feelings without it just being a character explaining it all themselves. 

[dshnookie]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 8:26pm

but is it worth attending to see Tony’s bare feet? Serious question. 

[InTheBathroom1]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 8:40pm

They all have very nice feet. I even thought to myself, they’re exposing their feet for free. I would charge more. Between this and Heidi in JLP, great year for feet on bway

[Bsmusicd]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 9:06pm

Some strikingly hyperbolic "reviews" in this thread.

I saw "Thou Shall Not." Or rather, I saw the first half before leaving at intermisson. "Thou..." was a 2. "Flying" a 7 1/2.

The show I would compare it to is, "War Paint." Lovely score, excellent performances, beautiful design. In both shows the authors were not fully successful at finding conflict and drama between their (real-life) subjects. I'd take a lovingly-crafted show with some book issues over the lastest jukebox musical any day of the week, however.

[JGPR2]

Posted: 11/17/21 at 11:06pm

"After reading through some of the negative (i.e. bitchy) criticisms in this thread (for a show that's still in previews, no less), it's no wonder why new, original Broadway musicals are so far and few between. "

I always root hard for original new musicals to succeed because I want to see more of them. I have no problem with people criticizing a show they saw and paid money for even if it is in previews. This show does not officially open for almost another month and I will ask Broadway veterans how much can a show change in a month? Is there a chance that this could be radically different in the 2nd week of December?