HAMILTON Previews — Page 6
#127
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:00pm
Well, valid as something they need to work on, but you're specifically seeing something in progress when you go to a preview... the creative team is doing previews to hone the show. So, you have to accept you aren't seeing a finished product to some extent...
#128
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:10pm
They would be fools to rush and bring this in this season, especially with somethings strong as Fun Home opening.
#129
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:14pm
I know that Hamilton founded the New York Post, but is Michael Riedel kidding when he says that the Post is sponsoring the show at the Public? I can't picture that.
#130
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:22pm
Their logo appears on the rotating sponsor section on the Hamilton page on the Public's website...
#131
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:28pm
I hope this isn't true. Why would The Public put both of their works up against each other? Spread the wealth. Let this be the year of FUN HOME & save HAMILTON for 2015-2016.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
#132
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:31pm
"I don't think this was ever a valid criticism during previews, since that is kind of the point of having a preview... "
"Well, valid as something they need to work on, but you're specifically seeing something in progress when you go to a preview... the creative team is doing previews to hone the show. So, you have to accept you aren't seeing a finished product to some extent..."
I never said people should criticize it as if it were a final product, or that people should codemn the show for its length. All I said was that people were saying it was too long, therefore it's good that they are trimming it. You said it yourself, it's something they need to work on. I feel like you're sort of putting words in my mouth, unless my original post about the trimming had some implied meaning or tone which I didn't intend to convey.
"Well, valid as something they need to work on, but you're specifically seeing something in progress when you go to a preview... the creative team is doing previews to hone the show. So, you have to accept you aren't seeing a finished product to some extent..."
I never said people should criticize it as if it were a final product, or that people should codemn the show for its length. All I said was that people were saying it was too long, therefore it's good that they are trimming it. You said it yourself, it's something they need to work on. I feel like you're sort of putting words in my mouth, unless my original post about the trimming had some implied meaning or tone which I didn't intend to convey.
#133
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:46pm
That seems so stupid to pit two shows, who both stand a great chance of winning, against each other.
#134
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:53pm
It's a business, everyone wants to make money I guess. That would be great if it transferred this year!
#135
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:55pm
It looks like my thoughts got eaten by my iPad, but I can some it up easily:
I'm team Hamilton. Yay Hamilton! I think this show is totally, 150% different from anything out there right now, from the subject matter to the presentation of the material. If they're smart, they'll hold until reviews come out and then think very long and very hard about their next move. Fun Home is/was such a great and special show. With some nips, cuts and second thoughts on things, Hamilton will be. Don't short change either show or have them cancel each other out.
Hamilton is good (to me). If critics agree, it'll be good later this year or next year, too.
The Public Theater really needs to think hard on this if the rumors are true.
I'm team Hamilton. Yay Hamilton! I think this show is totally, 150% different from anything out there right now, from the subject matter to the presentation of the material. If they're smart, they'll hold until reviews come out and then think very long and very hard about their next move. Fun Home is/was such a great and special show. With some nips, cuts and second thoughts on things, Hamilton will be. Don't short change either show or have them cancel each other out.
Hamilton is good (to me). If critics agree, it'll be good later this year or next year, too.
The Public Theater really needs to think hard on this if the rumors are true.
#136
Posted: 2/3/15 at 11:58pm
I just think that before a show opens, it's feedback. After a show opens, it's criticism.
#137
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:04am
Oh, ok. It was my use of the word "criticism." I guess the way I see it, feedback is a form of criticism, but it's only feedback if it's being directed at the creative team. I was referring to the opinions posted on this board, and some friends' opinions, regarding the length. To me that's a form of criticism. But whatever. Agree to disagree.
#138
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:05am
I don't know what say the Public has over a potential transfer, but I can't imagine they want this to come in with Fun Home finally opening on Broadway.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#139
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:09am
Yeah, I just dislike certain words 
I mean, Lin Manuel even tweeted on Monday that he has 17 changes he needs to get into the show in the next two weeks, so that sort of makes it seem like they have a bunch of things they know about it and want to work through, to get the show into the shape they want.
I mean, Lin Manuel even tweeted on Monday that he has 17 changes he needs to get into the show in the next two weeks, so that sort of makes it seem like they have a bunch of things they know about it and want to work through, to get the show into the shape they want.
#140
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:33am
"They would be fools to rush and bring this in this season, especially with somethings strong as Fun Home opening."
There isn't much overlap in audiences other than theatre aficionados. Tourists aren't going to say, "We need to choose between one of these Public Theater transfers!"
I had heard, way back last spring following its workshop, Hamilton was Broadway tracked. Response from those at the workshop at been overwhelmingly positive- the "let me get out my checkbook, how much do you need?" kind of positive.
The Public can't commercially produce its transfers, at any rate- if commercial producers wish to spirit Hamilton to Broadway, they are totally able to, and if they have the money in place, why not?
This is not a Fun Home vs. Hamilton duel. The fact they both originated at the Public is irrelevant at this point.
There isn't much overlap in audiences other than theatre aficionados. Tourists aren't going to say, "We need to choose between one of these Public Theater transfers!"
I had heard, way back last spring following its workshop, Hamilton was Broadway tracked. Response from those at the workshop at been overwhelmingly positive- the "let me get out my checkbook, how much do you need?" kind of positive.
The Public can't commercially produce its transfers, at any rate- if commercial producers wish to spirit Hamilton to Broadway, they are totally able to, and if they have the money in place, why not?
This is not a Fun Home vs. Hamilton duel. The fact they both originated at the Public is irrelevant at this point.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
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#141
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:34am
"This is not a Fun Home vs. Hamilton duel. The fact they both originated at the Public is irrelevant at this point."
Exactly, I have no idea why people are talking about it like they are in competition simply because they were both at the Public.
Exactly, I have no idea why people are talking about it like they are in competition simply because they were both at the Public.
#142
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:38am
Well is the Public actually investing any money in the Broadway production of Fun Home? If so, they wouldn't want to invest their own money in another show to compete against themselves.
#143
Posted: 2/4/15 at 12:45am
They're not listed as one of the producers, so I can't say if they've invested anything.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#144
Posted: 2/4/15 at 1:50am
To me they're smart to hold off on the reviews. I've heard such mixed things. I wouldn't say it's an "in the bag" sort of move. And plus we still have Something Rotten coming which could just blow the roof off the whole thing.
#145
Posted: 2/4/15 at 3:22am
It would be the answer to my prayers if this transfer were to occur in time for the Tonys.
Could it really happen, or are the theatre gods (and the NY Post) just teasing us?
Let's pray it happens!
Could it really happen, or are the theatre gods (and the NY Post) just teasing us?
Let's pray it happens!
#146
Posted: 2/4/15 at 4:22am
the bigger question is, if this is trying to get in under the cut off, whose repaving Brian D'arcy James for the Broadway run?
#147
Posted: 2/4/15 at 6:51am
^ Brian's role is not huge, although he is quite funny in the role, they can easily find someone else to do it for the Broadway run.
Otherwise, I have seen this at the Public 2 times and love it, would love for it to come to Broadway and sweep the awards! Interesting to see what will win for best musical if this does transfer.
Otherwise, I have seen this at the Public 2 times and love it, would love for it to come to Broadway and sweep the awards! Interesting to see what will win for best musical if this does transfer.
#148
Posted: 2/4/15 at 9:54am
I, selfishly, want “Hamilton” to wait until next year. I haven’t seen the full thing yet, but, from what I saw at the Vassar staged reading in 2013, I love it. And, “Fun Home” is easily one of my favorite musicals. In my fangirl heart, I would hate having both of these musicals up against each other in the same season (although, on the flipside, what an exciting season if they were). I also know that “Fun Home” is likely going to need all of the accolades it can get to succeed on Broadway and that Best Musical Tony stamp would surely help it. Not that it’s guaranteed that award at this point, by any means, but with added competition from “Hamilton,” it would certainly make things harder for “Fun Home” – even when it comes to other categories and not just Best Musical.
For the Public, although it’s possible that they may not be financially invested in the Broadway runs of either, I would think it would still be to their benefit (if they have much say) on waiting to open “Hamilton” until next year. Say “Fun Home” wins the Best Musical Tony this year (or even just a bunch of them) and “Hamilton” does next year, the Public would then be able to lay claim to originally producing the winner of Best Musical two years in a row.
On another note, I’ve really been enjoying seeing the reaction to “Hamilton” (through Twitter) of Lin’s peers who have come to see the show:
Andrew Lloyd Webber: Just seen #Hamilton; it raises & changes the bar for musicals. Brilliant lyrics, staging, cast. Creator/lead @Lin_Manuel is special. ALW.
Josh Whedon: THIS IS AMAZING. @Lin_Manuel and his crew took it to another level SEE IT AND KNOW #NotThrowingAwayMySHOT
Sutton Foster: What an honor to live in the time of Lin-Manuel Miranda @Lin_Manuel #Hamilton
And, of course, Sondheim’s comments from the New Yorker article upon hearing some of the songs from the show:
“I was knocked out—I thought it was wonderful,” Sondheim says. “They seemed so fresh and meticulous and theatrical.”
It always makes ME excited to see what shows excite others in the industry.
For the Public, although it’s possible that they may not be financially invested in the Broadway runs of either, I would think it would still be to their benefit (if they have much say) on waiting to open “Hamilton” until next year. Say “Fun Home” wins the Best Musical Tony this year (or even just a bunch of them) and “Hamilton” does next year, the Public would then be able to lay claim to originally producing the winner of Best Musical two years in a row.
On another note, I’ve really been enjoying seeing the reaction to “Hamilton” (through Twitter) of Lin’s peers who have come to see the show:
Andrew Lloyd Webber: Just seen #Hamilton; it raises & changes the bar for musicals. Brilliant lyrics, staging, cast. Creator/lead @Lin_Manuel is special. ALW.
Josh Whedon: THIS IS AMAZING. @Lin_Manuel and his crew took it to another level SEE IT AND KNOW #NotThrowingAwayMySHOT
Sutton Foster: What an honor to live in the time of Lin-Manuel Miranda @Lin_Manuel #Hamilton
And, of course, Sondheim’s comments from the New Yorker article upon hearing some of the songs from the show:
“I was knocked out—I thought it was wonderful,” Sondheim says. “They seemed so fresh and meticulous and theatrical.”
It always makes ME excited to see what shows excite others in the industry.
#149
Posted: 2/4/15 at 10:27am
Anyone know if there is a bootleg yet? I wanna hear/see
#150
Posted: 2/4/15 at 10:52am
So they plan to cancel the shows they already added on at the public? That doesn't seem very fair to all who already bought tickets in hopes of seeing it at the public before it transfered to broadway...
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