also you clearly do NOT understand capitalism if you have to add a "but" afterwards. no economic system is perfect. capitalism is far from it. but it's the best and right system for entertainment. the pricing of admission and tickets to events fluctuates and changes all the time. if no one buys the expensive tickets, the producers will reduce the amount. they will respond to the marketplace. it is really that simple
1. I don't like the price tag either....but I wasn't EVER going to buy any premium seat, not at 3, 4 or 8 hundred.
2. If people are going to pay outrageous sums of $ for tickets....wouldn't you RATHER it goes into the hands of those that a) actually created it and b) invested their own money on the chance than to scalpers who are literally doing nothing but scamming?
3. Chances look slim that I'll be getting another set of tickets, but I'll certainly try to do so. If I don't get them I'll be fine. To borrow a page from Mr. Roxy: Life will go on.
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Jakeevan942 said: "I'd imagine the premium rate might be back to the 550/600 range on Sunday night- I think they used this small group as a test for jumping the prices that much and now see that it isn't quite effective."
Can they do that, though? I would imagine the millionaires who paid $849 for their tickets would holler if they saw that any yokel off the street could buy the seat next to him/her for a lot less money. I agree that the very high price didn't work, but I'm not sure they can lower it now. Guess we'll see!
the producers can do whatever they want. they could charge $1,000 for every seat and then reduce it to $50 the next day. they are under no obligations to abide by one set price. is it the best move from an optics or PR standpoint? no. but i think they can afford to take that risk. the free market is called the free market for a reason
JM226 said: "the producers can do whatever they want. they could charge $1,000 for every seat and then reduce it to $50 the next day. they are under no obligations to abide by one set price. is it the best move from an optics or PR standpoint? no. but i think they can afford to take that risk. the free market is called the free market for a reason"
yes. god forbid the producers have the freedom to do what they'd like with the production THEY invested in and took the risk to spend money on. i realize you're joking but others still do not understand...
I do understand. I understand the risks that producers take and I understand capitalism. I know that producers etc need to make hay when the sun shines, however they may have overreached a bit. I also have a right to voice an opinion on a message board that the pricing is crazy high (note I did not say it was unfair).
I have seen the show and have upcoming tickets that I had no problem getting them at face value. I never intended to buy them for this block so I probably shouldn't even be reading this. I'm not disgusted, I don't think it's unfair. I do agree that from an optics standpoint it doesn't look good. I guess we'll find out when the rest of the tickets go on sale.
dramamama611 said: "1. I don't like the price tag either....but I wasn't EVER going to buy any premium seat, not at 3, 4 or 8 hundred.
2. If people are going to pay outrageous sums of $ for tickets....wouldn't you RATHER it goes into the hands of those that a) actually created it and b) invested their own money on the chance than to scalpers who are literally doing nothing but scamming?
3. Chances look slim that I'll be getting another set of tickets, but I'll certainly try to do so. If I don't get them I'll be fine. To borrow a page from Mr. Roxy: Life will go on.
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I agree with all 3 statements. Saw the show in November for $89 (rear mezz) and have tickets for row O side for this coming November (seats that are now priced at $849!)
Very interesting that so many premium seats remain. Wondering what the fallout will be if they drop those prices after the presale - or maybe reinstate the regular prices for some, not all, of those seats.
I'm not sure how many people compulsively look to see what happens to the price of something after they purchase it.
Things change price all the time, not sure that there will be any "fallout" to it.
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Well, Feb 4 (Sat 8PM) is sold out, Feb 11 (Sat 8PM) is down to singles, and there are eight seats available for Feb 18 (Sat 8PM) . So at least for Saturday nights they know what they are doing and platinum card holders are willing to spend unless they pulled some inventory back.
I refused to buy the lousy seats yesterday @$179 which I paid $99 last year - only $849 tickets available - will these be reduced next week for the general public sale?
Robert16 said: "I refused to buy the lousy seats yesterday @$179 which I paid $99 last year - only $849 tickets available - will these be reduced next week for the general public sale?"
Nobody knows yet. The $179 and $199 seats probably won't be reduced, because the market has shown that people are willing to pay those prices (albeit for the original cast; it hasn't been shown what they'll pay for the replacements yet).
The prices next week for those seats which are now $849 is still unknown as well, although I hope the RRT and whoever is in charge of pricing is taking note of the fact that even the millionaires and scalpers aren't snapping them up at those prices. IMO it's very unlikely that Joe Tourist is going to be willing to shuck out those kinds of bucks, especially after it's known how many of the OBC is leaving. You can go to Disney World for that kind of money.
I've never saw any pre-sale on Ticketmaster or anywhere, really, where the pre-sale charged a higher price than the public sale. So, it's pretty safe to assume they will be the same price.
With the expensive AMEX cards as the only people able to use the pre-sale, it is hard to gauge anything right now. If it was any ol' AMEX, most of those $849 seats would be gone. Many people, myself included and I'm guessing scalpers, maintain an AMEX card specifically for ticket pre-sales, but we don't get the ones with membership fees.
^^^ I agree. I really doubt the premium price will be lowered for the general sale.
I'm thinking the only parts of the theater that have not been released so far are the rear orchestra (after Row Q?), the first row of the mezzanine (curious to see if that's premium or not), and the rear mezzanine (the whole thing or just part of it? I didn't notice).
I can't see that very many seats have been held back for the general sale.
I took a snapshot of the AmEx presale tickets one minute after they went on sale. Here's the shot I took, with the seats released shown in blue circles:
I imagine that's pretty standard across all the dates, right when they went on sale. Hopefully this will help people know what seats will be available for the general presale.
This article came out today. I was surprised there was no mention of the new premium ticket price of $849. Just that prices were expected to rise. No one would have guessed they would almost double.
NJ_BroadwayGirl said: " Listen I understand capitalism but I can't believe how ironic it is that LMM penned an op-ed about robots ruining Broadway that was published on the same day his show put tickets on sale for almost a year from now, for $849. "
I said yesterday that this very same thing was ironic and was torn to shreds about it (I think 4 or 5 people called me out, which I felt was a lot). I guess it doesn't match the literal definition of irony but I guess it matches the colloquial definition (which I guess means it's not correct at all). But like I said: who the hell even knows how to use that word.
i actually really am kind of disgusted by $849 for premium seats. when I told my boyfriend about it yesterday he thought I was joking, but he admitted he would think it work $999 to see Hamilton so I guess he knows how big it is.
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Actually it looks like about half of the rear mezzanine was on sale - part of the center front section and parts of the back side sections. The front side sections and the back center section should be up for grabs in the general presale. I say should be because I have no idea if the exact same blocks were released for each day. So this is just a guide and if it's wrong it's not my fault!
Robert16 said: "I refused to buy the lousy seats yesterday @$179 which I paid $99 last year - only $849 tickets available - will these be reduced next week for the general public sale?
When the down low cancelled tickets went on sale in early May for November to January, all I saw were $549, $349 (front orch) $199 rear and side orchestra (about where the mezz overhang is) and saw $179 for rear mezz. I just suppose this is the new price structure since so many did pay scalpers price difference and line sitter services to get tickets. The producers figure the pockets of the public are deep enough. I bought resale, because it was the only option to see the show but my sister-n-law, who is a school teacher would love to see the show but $179 is high for her. High also for a nurse with 3 girls in the arts who would love to see the show but $179 x 4 is a head scratcher. It's sad that for many who have yet to see the show, this new block of tickets doesn't give them much hope.
Playbill writes up that only premiums are left in the presale and also confirms $849 is a record high for a premium ticket. No comment from the production.
Playbill writes up that only premiums are left in the presale and also confirms $849 is a record high for a premium ticket. No comment from the production. "
That's pretty disingenuous, to start the article by saying tickets are "all but sold out". They aren't. There are lots of orchestra seats available - because they're all $849 and not even the millionaires want to pay that ridiculous amount to see a show. The article says "Everything's sold out but the premium seats!" without mentioning that just about the entire orchestra is now considered a premium seat. Come Sunday I think there are going to be a lot of frustrated buyers who want to see the show but weren't expecting to be asked to fork over $849 for the privilege.
If I was a millionaire I would pay $849 to see this show every single night (well, maybe not EVERY night, but frequently). They are millionaires, after all. Even with just one million dollars you could see it over a thousand times for $849. They're not the ones complaining about high prices (I would hope).
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