"High mercury levels" force Piven out of SPEED-THE-PLOW — Page 9

You don't like what I've been saying, so you stoop to a personal attack?

I'm not going to dignify that with an answer. Feel free to believe what you like, it doesn't change any of the facts.

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FACT: You won't answer a simple question.




re: The Official Raúl E. Esparza 'Spread the Love' Thread, Part 3
Posted On: 7/12/07 at 10:35 PM


Um, I’m a newbie here – this is my very first post anywhere on BWW, so be gentle, please!

I’ve only recently discovered Raúl, so I’m coming to this party kinda late. See, I live in Los Angeles and there’s just not a whole lot of coverage of Broadway or the theatre world out here. Hollywood has seen to that. I try to keep up, but only so much info gets through. A weak excuse, I know, but there it is.

But now that I know about this wonderful, amazing, talented man, I’m trying to make up for lost time. I can’t offer any stories or pictures of Raúl (yet!!) but I can offer endless appreciation, and ask questions. Lots of questions, and observations, too.

After I was first exposed to Raúl (geez, that makes him sound like a disease!) I stumbled to the Internet and started finding out all sorts of information (god I love the Internet!) But the best of all was finding broadwayworld.com and these message boards and all the awesome people here. I’m still plowing my way through the older threads, but it’s so much fun!

One other thing I have to say -- I hope everybody here knows what a treasure you have in luvtheEmcee. I emailed her a few weeks ago after reading some of her posts, and she has been infinitely kind and patient with all my questions and floundering around. She is a goddess!

Sorry for the long post! I try for brevity but rarely succeed.

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Updated On: 12/21/08 at 01:27 AM

Not related to the whether-or-not-humbugfoto-saw-Raul-perform-live topic; today I was talking with my mom about what happened with Jeremy Piven (she was reading about William H. Macy taking over). If he is truly sick then hopefully he'll get better. That's all I can really say on the matter.

Although during the course of talking with my mom about the play/the Jeremy Piven fiasco, this happened:

Mom:Is Speed-the-Plow a musical?
Me:... are you kidding me? It's David Mamet.
Mom: Oh, so it's definitely not a musical.

(After her comment, I did conjure up a thought about Speed-the-Plow: The Musical, which was slightly amusing).

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Updated On: 12/21/08 at 01:35 AM

In spite of what I said earlier, I'll answer your question (on the advice of some very true friends who I trust totally).

I saw Raul in Evita (in Los Angeles) in 1999, and in Cabaret in 2002. The truth is that on both occasions, while I appreciated his talent, he didn't...resonate with me the way he did when I encountered him again more recently.

And when have I EVER said I work too much? I'm broke because of what the stock market has done to my retirement funds. I hope nobody out there is facing the situation I'm facing.

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Updated On: 12/21/08 at 01:59 AM

See, that's why I didn't want to say anything, because I knew you'd find a way to twist it out of recognition.

STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!

I never said I had never seen him. People just inferred that because I didn't talk about having seen him the way everybody else did/does.

And I did not say I hardly remembered him. That's your warped interpretation.

I'm done with this.

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Twisting?

"People just inferred that because I didn't talk about having seen him the way everybody else did/does."

No. When asked, you couldn't seem to remember.

When you think that if you just don't answer the question, it's not the same as lying, you are wrong.

You're pathetic.

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TheatreDiva, I'm not sure why anyone from the public feels the need to so vehemently defend the conduct of any celebrity--unless there's an unnamed connection you'd rather not reveal. The press and the producers have already jumped on the, ahem, fishiness of the story with zeal. Humbug's spidey-senses were merely more acute than the rest of ours. If you have an ulterior motive for defending Piven then I hope you reveal it. If you're merely stirring the pot out of boredom then perhaps a new hobby is in order.

TD, I believe what triggered this for you was your impression that Humbugfoto disliked JP from the start and was unhappy about his casting. You may have been confused with me.

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Are you sure she's written on here that she'd never seen him perform live?

I mean, I saw Raul in "The Homecoming" before I became a fan of his. You don't always appreciate something upon first introduction.

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"Are you sure she's written on here that she'd never seen him perform live?"

yes, but then she's changed her story so many times over the last year, it's hard to keep it straight.

The PM's I'm getting are saying that she's lying, that she claims to have never seen him, but then she back tracks and adds that she may have seen him in Evita in '99. THEN she claims to have seen him in Cabaret (which got a whole other round of PM's telling me that she's lying, and has said in the past that she could never afford to fly out to NY).

Liars, when given enough rope, will always hang themselves. And when you can go back and pull up her old postings and see it, it makes it even worse.

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I gotta say Morgaine that he is quite fabulous. =] I'm sure he'll be amazing in the role.

They don't want their names mentioned and I'm respecting their wishes.

But all I can say is she's pissed off many people with her 'know-it-all' attitude.

Yes, they've written "pissed off" and "Boiling mad".

One of them gave me Humbug's first post, because they KNEW that this person was full of it from the beginning.

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