IT COULD HAVE SAVED THE FILM!!! (Rent Alternate Ending) — Page 4

I loved the alternate ending.

I was just taken back by the whole thing. When I saw Angel walk back on the stage I had the chills, to me, the alternate ending was more moving and emotional(especially when Angel took Collins hand). But I did loved the idea of ending the movie with Marks film.

But would Rent work as a surrealist movie, a la Moulin Rouge and Chicago? I don't really think it would, even if that's what's working with contemporary audiences.

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"But would Rent work as a surrealist movie, a la Moulin Rouge and Chicago? I don't really think it would, even if that's what's working with contemporary audiences."

I think it would, if you have a strong vision behind it.
For example, Micheal Greif's staging of the show. He opted for a more concert-staging, very Brechtian and minimalist, instead of going with full sets or realistic environments, which works very well for the musical.
This is what the movie, I THINK, could've found benefit in.

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I honestly liked the alternate ending... better? yes, probably. It wasn't my decision to make. at first when I saw there was going to be an alternate ending... I thought it was going to be the version where MiMi died...

and the other topic of conversation... I don't think it would have worked as a surrealist movie. Moulin Rouge and Chicago were very easy to make in that type of setting... I think RENT is trying to more connected, considering it was set in a time period that actually occured. (I know the 1920's occured, but 1989-1990 is a lot closer than the 20s... and easier to relate to.) I have no idea if that made sense... but that's my take on it

Jkor

I'm not implying to put Greif's vision on film, but give an example of an approach that works for the piece.
I think a more radical approach would have done the film more justice, because I think the piece calls for it, than what Columbus went for.

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I loved both endings and either one was good for the movie!!

"also, on a side note - i scrutinized adam's performance, and i don;t think he was as bad as the critics made him out to be. he had some great moments. just wanted to throw that out there."

Agreed. Actually, every time I see it I like his performance more and more. It was certainly a different take on the role than he had on the stage, but who's to say that's a bad thing? I actually liked that we saw something other than the Angry!Roger we're used to...he seemed so much more depressed and withdrawn in the film. Some people don't understand that an understated performance can work. In this case I think it did very nicely.

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I finally watched this alternate ending and there is NO WAY the general movie audiences and critics would have bought this. I am reading so many things about that say "Oh it was beautiful when Angel walked back" but that is mostly coming from people who have seen the stage production. Sure, it is beautiful to you because it pays homage to that. But you have to think of this from a individual who has never seen the show's point of view. I feel certain that this would have gotten even worse reviews with this ending. People are forgetting that this is not theater, this is a movie. You just can't get away with certain things.

Goodbye Love being cut was a huge mistake. Out of all of the scenes and the ending, this is the one that could have had the largest impact on helping the film. And his reason for cutting it is absolutely absurd. I hope he is now sitting there wondering what would have happen if he left that in.

Halloween was a disaster the way it was shot. The way it stands I agree that it was smart to have cut it. But better than that, it should have been re-shot.

Wow, I'm gone for a day and there are four pages of replies.

I'll only respond to this:

"CapnHook, how can you seriously believe that of all the negative things critics had to say about the film that this one scene is something that would have caused them to "love" it?"

Before I get into my bold statement about saving the film, let me first say that I have shown the ending to several of my friends. Last night, we watched the film and then stopped it before Mark turns on the projector to put on the alternate ending. Worked SOO much better. Everyone agreed - the alternate ending was better suited for the film. Not ONE of the ~20 people who saw it said the one in theatres was better.

I like the original one, however it does not provide closure to the film. If they wanted to keep it, "Seasons of Love" should have been cut. If you're going to have the actors on the stage, you can't open the film that way and then not reference back to them or say what that was all about.

Choosing the alternate ending would not have saved RENT from all it's other problems, however, it is the final moment of the film. It's what makes people go out of the theatre and stamp their opinion of it. The beginning, middle, and the end of a movie are important - however the beginning and end are key. The ending in theatres didn't make me feel complete. The one on the DVD did and made me ball tears.

Therefore, it could have saved the movie in the sense that more people would have felt better about it and it would have gotten more word of mouth from non-theatre folks. And yes, I believe critics would have liked the film better with the alternate ending. Would it change their number of stars given or thumbs up or down? Who knows.

After seeing the film and deleted scenes with the commentary, I now hate one of my (former) favorite directors.

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But are you saying this as someone who has seen the show, and "knows," for lack of a better term, the characters, as well as what the show makes you feel on stage? Do your friends know the stage show?

I think what it's about is the people who don't know the show as an entity separate from the film.

The alternate ending gave you chills, but what would it do to someone unfamiliar with Rent? I think *that's* the issue.

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I think sticking with the ending they used was smart. It's more movie audience friendly. I also, like everyone else it seems, thing Goodbye Love should have been left in, but for a different reason. I don't get why they cut all of Benny's redeeming scenes. He paid for the funeral then met with Roger and both scenes hit the cutting room floor. Eh, guess that's why I am not a filmmaker.

As for the alternate ending, I like that Mimi looked to Angel and Collins took his hand, but don't you think everyone should have acknowledged his return with at least a look?

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Today for You, Out Tonight, What You Own and Seasons of Love should all have been cut out of the film. None of them worked.

This terrible film made me respect Johnathan Larson's show which was slaughtered on the big screen.

Ps. Adam was vocally not at his top. I feel like they told him they only had one take to do his songs. he sounds like **** in all of them.