Into The Woods- Sondhiem AND Jonthan Larson?- Page 2
Into The Woods- Sondhiem AND Jonthan Larson?
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#25re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 7:39pmOkay, now we've moved firmly into the realm of the surreal.
#26re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 7:59pm
Are you people actually believing this stuff?
Plum, I am afraid.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#27re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 8:13pm
Really, stop making stuff up. Jon was his observer. THAT. IS. ALL. THAT. IS. KNOWN.
Let it go. I'm worried for the sanity of a few of you.
#28re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 8:19pmSondheim is actually Jon's biological father.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#29re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:06pmNo best12bars is being sarcastic I think. I can also tell you guys that the song that the beans play when they are dropped was actually written by Jonathan Larson and Sondheim wanted to give him credit but was afraid that he would be ridiculed by the Jewish Community.
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
#30re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:16pmmy head hurts ,I don't know what to believe....
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iliketheater
Broadway Star Joined: 12/10/05
#31re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:23pm
Sumofallthings... where are you getting all your information from? I'm not saying you're wronge, but i've never heard any of this before*
#32re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:25pm
That's dangerous thinking iliketheater.
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
iliketheater
Broadway Star Joined: 12/10/05
#33re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:33pm
how is it dangerous? im curious
"I can also tell you guys that the song that the beans play when they are dropped was actually written by Jonathan Larson and Sondheim wanted to give him credit but was afraid that he would be ridiculed by the Jewish Community."
where did you hear that?
Updated On: 1/2/06 at 09:33 PM
#34re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:47pmFor those of you who are SOOOO sure that all this DIDNT happen how the hell do yo uknow THAT? Were you there? Maybe Larson did more that you think, maybe he did just do what you think he did but no one knows other than Larson and Sondheim. So dont dismiss every speculation someone has!
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#35re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:52pm
HAAAAAAAAAA!
Okay, so our new motto is, believe it unless you were there to see it not happen?
Okay, then. Let's see...James Lapine wrote "Children and Art". Ted Chapin wrote "Losing My Mind". And Jerome Robbins wrote the lyrics to "Rose's Turn". That Sondheim was constantly taking the credit for the work of others. Bastard.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#36re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:53pmAnd for the love of god, if at this point in the thread you can't tell the difference between speculation and sarcasm, you really need to read over it again.
insomniak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/7/04
#37re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:56pm
You people are morons. Sondheim and Larson are really the same person.
#38re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:03pm
So I can say I wrote "the Ballad of Sweeney Todd," I mean I do like that song.
Sure Larson may have written some of INTO THE WOODS, but to speculate (seriously) that he did is ridiculous. There is no evidence, or credible information on that.
As Plum said it is exactly like saying Ted Chapin wrote "Losing My Mind."
Good grief.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#39re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:08pm
Oh, and speaking of Chapin, read Everything Was Possible to get an idea of what a gofer does on a show. Hint: Suggesting melodies or lyrics isn't part of it. Fetching coffee is.
And Larson, according to this thread, wasn't even a gofer; he was an observer. This screams "No creative input" to me, but what do I know? Surely his cultists are correct that in his life he was responsible for everything from Into the Woods to a cure for AIDS that was then lost.
#40re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:11pm
Here are a few little known facts for ya'all. When Jonathan Larson was ten years old he wrote a few little ditties that he sent to his favorite composer, Stephen Sondheim. Jonathan had been in the audience of a little show called Anyone Can Whistle that nobody saw. To his delight Stephen wrote Jonathan back telling him that he liked the songs so much, he would incorporate them into his newest show (These would later become "Another Hundred People," "Sorry-Grateful," "The Ladies Who Lunch," and "Being Alive"). There was little contact between the two for the majority of the rest of the decade. When Jonathan got older he realized that he had basically sold his songs for free. When he confronted Sondheim about this Sondheim agreed to let Jonathan contribute a few songs to his new project (they would become "The Worst Pies in London," "Epiphany," and "Not While I'm Around"). Once again, Sondheim gave Jonathan no credit, saying that it would stint ticket sales. Jonathan was just grateful for the exposure (although a little sorry at the same time). This trend continued throughout the 80s for the next several Sondheim shows, until finally Jonathan decided to try for a career of his own. For 10 years Jonathan had to work hard as Sondheim continued bashing his name in the community and holding him back, but finally what we know as RENT made it to an off Broadway stage. While it was in previews, Jonathan mysteriously died. All of Sondheim's friends vouch for Stephen's alibi.
But you do the math.
Regardless, who's got a movie in theaters right now? It certainly isn't Stephen. Jonathan Larson's child genius lives on.
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#41re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:15pm
WTF?
Now Larson wrote 3 of the best Sweeney Todd songs?
Riiiight.
This thread is confusing.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
insomniak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/7/04
#43re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:20pm
Updated On: 1/2/06 at 10:20 PM
#44re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:26pm
This thread is proof that people trust anything in print. Look at my avatar. You are honestly going to trust THAT guy?
Sheesh.
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
#45re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:27pm
"Half the people can be part right all the time, some of the people can be all right part of the time, but all the people can't be ALL Right all the time, I think Abraham Lincoln said that."
-Larson's lyrics delivered throught the song and mind of Bob Dylan
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
jerseygurl
Understudy Joined: 6/7/05
#46re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:27pmWow..and ... wow. I love the internet and I love conspiracy theories. But this is taking it all to another, yes, surreal level. ITW was a Sondheim/LaPine project and Bernadette kindly gave my son her finger. Gosh, it was latex!
#47re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:29pmNo darling. She didn't give him "a" finger. She gave him "the" finger.
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
Cages or Wings
Featured Actor Joined: 11/27/04
#48re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:30pm
I personally consider Jon's best work to be "No More" from ITW. This was why there is a song in TTB by the same name. Jon was sending a subtle clue to the public that not only did he write many of "Sondheim's" songs but that he would be doing it "no more."
Is sarcasm foreing to some people?
#49re: Into The Woods- Sondheim AND Jonathan Larson?
Posted: 1/3/06 at 1:07amThe most ridiculous component of this whole thread is that anyone would entertain the thought that a composer of Sondheim's stature, reputation, and brilliance would need his songs doctored, let alone written, by anyone else. And frankly, if he had, Jonathan Larson would not have been equal to the task. If you think otherwise, you are a frighteningly deluded kid.
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