Into the Woods Official Movie Thread- Page 96

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:03pm

"Really BWW...REALLY!
They like to lurk around the boards don't they?"

I love how the BWW Gods never reply to any personal messages about troubles with accounts, etc, but are always super quick to pick up on gossip from the forums and post it as fact.

As to a previous post--what am I missing? Rapunzel commits suicide?

[Showface]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:06pm

"We don't know if they're adding anything though, right?"

Right...they could just be reshooting scened they were not pleased with

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:07pm

Exactly. But it would be interesting if due to social media, they decided to add back in songs that were cut. It would be a first, definitely.

[Showface]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:13pm

TBH, I don't really mind the song cuts. I feel cutting those songs help keep the film moving.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:15pm

"No More" has no business being cut.

[Showface]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:21pm

Yes...it Iis a good song, but I always felt the ending to ITW ran slow because after the powerhouse "Last Midnight", we have three ballads in a row. I feel out of those three "No More" should be cut, and replaced with dialouge, and excellent acting.

But that's just me.

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[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:25pm

The ending of the show is a completely different tone than what came before it, so it does slow down. But that's the point of it. It's no longer a fun faerie tale. And cutting "No More", you really lose a huge chunk of the moral of the story.

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:54pm

I don't think they could get away with the entire song of "No More," but that last part, starting with "Can't we just pursue our lives ..." to the end, that's powerful stuff. It adds quite a lot to the Baker's journey.

And I could see them cutting "I Know Thing Now" to tighten up the pace. Plus, we already can see that she knows things now.

[Showface]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 6:59pm

If I recall correctly...the song was replaced with dialouge, so as long as that dialouge keeps the same meaning and power as "No More", then that's fine.

But I can see where you're coming from.

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 7:05pm

If it's the scene from the script that I read, it's very good (between the Baker and his father), but it doesn't really say the same thing as "No More." Dramatically, it might pack the same punch, who knows? I liked the scene a lot. It was brief, but powerful.

And at the end of a story like this (in a movie), "brief" is a very good thing.

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 7:09pm

By the way, "reshoots" don't scare me in the least. I was actually glad when I read that.

The big studios used to do that all the time with their classic movies (almost every film you can name from MGM's golden age had reshoots). They would test them with audiences, then rewrite, edit, and reshoot as needed. They weren't afraid of changes, some of the major. That was standard practice.

Today, few can afford to do that, and few care enough to invest the time and money.

If early reports are that this movie is "very good," reshoots might make it that much better. I'm happy to hear they're doing their best.

Updated On: 7/14/14 at 07:09 PM

[jacobsnchz14]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 7:11pm

"If early reports are that this movie is "very good," reshoots might make it that much better. I'm happy to hear they're doing their best." DITTO!

[Mattbrain]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 7:24pm

My favorite movie franchise is The Lord of the Rings (I like The Hobbit as well but that's neither here nor there) and they went back for reshoots on all of those movies.

[beautywickedlover]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 7:27pm

^ That is true. Also, 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows -Part 2', 'X-Men First Class', and 'X-Men Days of Future Past' went through re-shoots as well.

[Showface]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 7:29pm

I guess I'm still shaken up after that whole "Any Moment" controversy.

[MagicalMusical]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 8:28pm

What worries me is if they are re-shooting to meet Disney's less adult, less meaningful demands.

Why is "No More" so meaningful and has more of the musical's message? Can you guys explain why? I always wonder what people think.

Larcen26, Cinderella's Prince trying to get fresh with Rapunzel, his brother's girl no less, is a bad idea. And according to you, "Tangled" is a brand that can't handle Rapunzel dying, but it can handle her cheating on her prince instead of the Baker's Wife? Not to mention, then the Baker's Wife singing "Moments in the Woods" wouldn't make any sense without her getting the moment and knowing what it feels like.

Updated On: 7/14/14 at 08:28 PM

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 9:14pm

Why is "No More" so meaningful and has more of the musical's message? Can you guys explain why? I always wonder what people think.

I don't think it has more of the musical's message, but it is a very important moment in the Baker's journey.

I also don't think this musical has just one message. "No one is alone" and "children will listen" are two of the main messages, but so is "I know things now," to a degree. Each character learns something they may or may not have wanted to learn, and it changes them, for better or for worse.

I think they can get away with cutting "No More," but I'd rather they left some of it in there. It won't kill the movie, especially with the scene they added in its place. But I do think it would help deepen the Baker's character. On the other hand, film allows us to see many complex emotions on an actor's face, and perhaps we'll see him arrive at the conclusions of "No More" without him uttering a word (or note). I hope so.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 9:19pm

Gnome Oar.

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 9:32pm

^ This is why they can't cut it!

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 9:33pm

I hope Sondheim doesn't see that. He'll write in a gnome for the revival.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 10:38pm

Carol Burnett, Tim Curry and Bernadette Peters were all called back to reshoot "Easy Street" in Annie.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 7/14/14 at 10:42pm

As was Carol's new chin.

[Larcen26]

Posted: 7/15/14 at 9:37am

For the person who asked about the suicide.

It was a shock to me too, but a few years ago I did Into the Woods and as gifts for the production team, we all bought this beautifully illustrated storybook version of Into the Woods. It was based off of the original script, with input from Lapine and Sondheim.

In it, it says that Rapunzel, unable to go on, throws herself beneath the giant's foot. Most of the time in productions, it just seems like in her madness and despair she runs off and happens to get squished. It's a "flaw" in the script that it isn't made clearer...we were all surprised too.

I have looked for it recently, and it's out of print, but if anyone ever comes across it, it is worth the money if you are a fan...I added a link to a page about it.
The Book on Sondheim.com

[Gothampc]

Posted: 7/15/14 at 10:01am

"As was Carol's new chin."

LOL, yes. I know someone who knows CB and she knew at the time that they were going to have to reshoot it. She knew in some shots the cameras weren't positioned properly.

[Showface]

Posted: 7/15/14 at 10:20am

I hope these reshoots dont delay the movie's release date (as well as the trailer release date).