Is the Best Replacement Tony History, or does Clay have a shot?- Page 2

[Liverpool]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 8:08pm

acutal the award wasn't even a year old when it was cancelled.

But i wouldn't expect you to have any knowledge of facts.

[Cartwheel]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 8:40pm

"But i wouldn't expect you to have any knowledge of facts."

You don't let that stop you from posting, so why should I?

[MungoGypsy8232]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 8:45pm

It's weird, I was gonna start a thread about if this award was still active, who do you think would be nominated this year?

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 9:49pm

I am surprised the Aikenhe'sstraits like Spamalot. I have yet to see ONE that has a sense of humor.

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 9:54pm

For the record, because David Hyde Pierce wasn't nominated, Aiken wouldn't, either.

[lakezurich]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 9:58pm

LOL!!! K-Fed for Best Replacement Tony!

[Ladyofthe Lake]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 10:24pm

For the record, because David Hyde Pierce wasn't nominated, Aiken wouldn't, either.

The originator of the role didn't have to be nominated. The role just had to be eligible for a leading actor/actress nomination.

But if you're saying that if David Hyde Pierce couldn't manage a nomination with that role, then there's no way that Clay Aiken could...that's a different argument.

[Rotel1026]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 10:27pm

Even if this award were still available, would Clay's role qualify him? It's been awhile since I've seen the show but I don't remember that being all that big of a role.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 3/24/08 at 10:31pm

And what do you suggest the acting awards should be given for, if not for the actual acting?

The acting awards should be given to the acting performances that meant their criteria:

The originator of the role didn't have to be nominated. The role just had to be eligible for a leading actor/actress nomination.

Exactly. And Sir Robin was not.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 3/25/08 at 12:34am

"What 50 years? That award was like 3 years old when it was canceled."

It was cancelled months within its announcement. Orangeskittles was referring to the fact that the Tony committee wasn't going to make a category to accommodate Clay.

[MungoGypsy8232]

Posted: 3/25/08 at 12:50am

David Hyde Pierce wasn't nominated because the producers pitched him for Leading instead of Featured, where he would have certainly have been nominated.

[Ladyofthe Lake]

Posted: 3/25/08 at 6:43am

The originator of the role didn't have to be nominated. The role just had to be eligible for a leading actor/actress nomination.

Exactly. And Sir Robin was not.

Actually, it was. Whether or not it should have been is another matter. London did it differently, with Arthur being the only male leading role, and the Lady of the Lake considered leading rather than featured.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:48am

We need to come with a name for the inevitable K-Fed groupies.

K-Holes?

Updated On: 3/25/08 at 07:48 AM

[dominique]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 10:26am

Not all of Clay's fans are incapable of recognizing subtlety and irony ... it just appears that way sometimes ... we are not all literalists ... honest ...

actually this was an interesting thread and I learned something ... of course I learn something every hour ... sometimes every minute ...

[Fosse76]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 11:24am

He wouldn't have been eligible even if the category still existed. The requirements were that the replacement actor be contracted for at least six months. It also did not separate actors and actresses...it was one category, and Fantasia (when she showed up for work) was phenomenol. Clay is merely good in a role that wasn't nominated the first time around, and he still isn't better than David Hyde Pierce. Plus it was a very strange process. The producers had to submit the names of the eligible performers to a 24-member nominating committee. If these people wouldn't go see high-quality theater stars Harvey Fierstein and Jonathan Pryce, what makes anyone think they would go see Clay Aiken?

[peaceone]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:37pm

"it was one category, and Fantasia (when she showed up for work) was phenomenol."

Here's wishing Fantasia a speedy recovery from her recent throat surgery.

[Yelliphant]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 1:33am

"Clay is merely good in a role that wasn't nominated the first time around, and he still isn't better than David Hyde Pierce."

Oh, I beg to differ, but you're entitled to your opinion. DHP wasn't nominated because he wasn't right for the role. He's too old for one thing and he can't sing for ****, but I still like the guy. He's a great actor.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 2:17am

David Hyde Pierce wasn't right for the role? Clay's BFF Mike Nichols that you all reference so often cast DHP as the originator of the role on Broadway and thought he was the best person possible. A lot more time and attention is given towards choosing the members of the original cast- as opposed to the 5th generation replacement stuntcast.

But keep deluding yourselves with lies if you think it makes Clay look better...

[blaxx]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 2:50am

DHP wasn't nominated because he wasn't right for the role. He's too old for one thing and he can't sing for ****, but I still like the guy.

Aw, Claymates are SO cute. It will be so sad to never see them around when it , I mean he is gone. I'll still keep my "PROUD TO BE A CLAYTER" t-shirt

[Yelliphant]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 3:54am

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

You guys are so easy

[blaxx]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 5:05am

A-DORA-BLE

I want two Claymates to go, please.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 9:15am

Amen ^^^.

Best thing I saw this week... Me too who's almost friends with everyone here is really getting sick & tired of these RABID Clay Aiken fans! They dont listen to REASON anymore..They just ATTACKED & ATTACKED.

After I saw what they did to my friends here- Tazber & Greek... I really WISH they go away! They dont contribute here at all.. All they do is answer threads about Clay ! the downfall of BWW's civilization..these damn Claymates!! I am not even going to justify answering them from now on... I dont think they see any other shows or plays.. What a waste!

Who's with me?

J*

Updated On: 3/29/08 at 09:15 AM

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 9:22am

I'm with you, Jay!

Off with their heads!

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 9:44am

Um, wasn't Clay offered the role FIRST but couldn't do it because of his sold-out tour? David was the SECOND choice. Or maybe THIRD if the rumors of the role being offered to Tom Arnold are true.

[dominique]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 9:56am

I'm sure you're right sueellen. At least that's the spin it is given on the Clay boards. Because you know he is the best at everything he does, better than anyone else, the best singer ever, and the best role model, sent to this world to lead music out of the gutter and into the light, and did you know that he is also a great humanitarian? No other celebrity has ever done so much for the poor needy people of the world as Clay has done. People should like him for this, if for nothing else. He came to Broadway, which was so beneath him of course, to show them how it is done. He could come here and be a star without any training and barely any rehearsal, because he's that good. Wise guru Mike Nichol knew what he was doing when he begged Clay to deign to come to Broadway. Clay of course thought the show was stupid, but after a year he was finally persuaded to grace the stage with his presence, after years of turning down other Broadway offers, of which there were many. Soon he will return to his fans and they will have him to themselves again, the way they like it.

Sadly, that is how far too many of his fans operate. They are stepford fans, and their heads are cut off if they don't toe the line. But personally I think Clay has been woken up and impressed by the level of talent here, by working with professional and accomplished actors, the cream of the crop, and is suitably humbled by the experience. I hope he has learned a lot.