Is the migrant crisis affecting broadway?- Page 7

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/3/23 at 12:44pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "Yes there are some families/kids that mean no harm.
But there are plenty who exhibit anti-social conduct.

Don’t go thinking every person is a sweet angel who’s just grateful to be here. Then again, if they’re all such fine upstanding future citizens, why not open up your home to some?"

Still spewing your lame Fox News talking points I see. 

[sinister teashop]

Posted: 9/3/23 at 2:13pm

There's a great article in the NYT's today breaking down the issue.

1) More homeless on nyc streets now because the migrants sent by Florida and Texas are competing for temporary housing.

2) Republicans in NY State and elsewhere see the migrant crisis as an opportunity to win back state power (despite the fact that they have contributed to the crisis). 

New York’s Migrant Crisis Is Growing. So Are Democrats’ Anxieties.

 

Updated On: 9/3/23 at 02:13 PM

[Jumpin_J]

Posted: 9/5/23 at 10:31pm

To get to the question at hand, "Is the migrant crisis affecting Broadway?". First off, Broadway is a place. Please use correct grammar. You might have a conservative slant but I hope you had something resembling proper English skills. Secondly, your question is an answer looking for a problem. I promise you that anyone who's coming to Broadway isn't wondering, "But what about that family that trekked thousands of miles through the jungle from Bolivia? Are they going to stop me from seeing The Lion King"? That's not a thing that happens. Ever. All the superfluous nonsense of looking for more excuses like pot smoking, scooters, and so forth is just as silly. You smell pot for 5 seconds, you move on. Scooters often can't make it through Times Square because it's flooded with crowds. And if you care to look at the Broadway grosses right here on this website, Broadway had a very strong week last week especially considering it being over the Labor Day weekend when many people are out of town. But I"ll give you that the Marriott Marquis is an eyesore especially considering they tore down three Broadway theaters to build that monstrosity. Aside from that, your point is so off base, it's worthy of ridicule. 

Updated On: 9/5/23 at 10:31 PM

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 9/5/23 at 11:04pm

I still don't know why this thread is still on here! It's useless and frustrating people on here. @Broadway Flash, congratulations, you have once again succeeded at getting a rise out of people on here! Can we please remove this thread and talk about things related to theatre?

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 9/6/23 at 1:46am

Most people on this board clearly disagree with you, Jumpin.  And what is wrong with my grammar?

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 9/6/23 at 10:51am

Broadway Flash said: "Most people on this board clearly disagree with you, Jumpin. And what is wrong with my grammar?"

He means that you did not capitalize the “B” in Broadway! As for the main part of this tawdry and unnecessary discussion, the influx of migrants is not steering people away from Broadway. These are people who fled dangers in their home countries in search for a better life! Why don’t you spend a day in their shoes and you’ll see how you will regret some of the things you have said about migrants! 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/6/23 at 11:03am

Jumpin_J said: "First off, Broadway is a place. Please use correct grammar. "

The appropriate term here is spelling or orthography, not grammar. If you're going to go around correcting people you had better get a handle on these things. 

Updated On: 9/6/23 at 11:03 AM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 9/6/23 at 11:55am

I fixed the damn title. 

Moving on. Yep. Broadway Flash is still a troll, dropping in "facts" like:

  "Majority of people in this city say that the migrant crisis is a problem according to every poll"

He never provides links even when asked. I proved he has been on this anti-migrant kick for years on this site, in the first two pages of this ridiculously long and off-topic thread.

 

It is now mostly posters trading insults, with people like Voter stalking posters like Fosse76 around on other sites like Reddit, and in a now-deleted post, attempted to doxx me by addressing me publicly as "Marc", telling me to "get real".

 Creepy behavior, which fits perfectly in this thread. If the mods won't kill it, we should let it die by refusing to post in it further.

eta for Dylan below, because he doesn't accept PMs and I'm not bumping this thread again. REPORT the original post as trolling or even off topic. If everyone here who opposes this thread did that instead of posting here, it would be gone or at least on the off-topic board.
 
At least 2 of BroadwayPatriot's posts have been deleted from this thread. Asking the mods to do anything in a post is pointless. You have to use the "report post to mods" button. Please use it and stop bumping this thread.

Updated On: 9/6/23 at 11:55 AM

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 9/6/23 at 1:09pm

Agreed, but that won’t stop him from posting more unnecessary and pointless threads. He needs to be removed.
 

Remember, this is the same guy who said ALW’s Bad Cinderella was gonna be the best musical sensation! 

[Gabriel6]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 7:40am

Bettyboy72 said: "I've been to NYC many times since the "crisis" began. At one point, I stayed at the Row which was housing society migrants at the time. There were no issues.

I think what does impact Broadway is the closing of the Row. It had the most hotel rooms in midtown. Many people I know who went a few times a year for theatre pilgrimages liked the hotel because it was affordable and close to all the theatre. Many were elderly and appreciated the short walks. It wasn't luxurious, but it was clean, close and affordable. It's closing raised prices of other hotels because now rooms were more scarce.

So essentially if you convert a huge hotel to residences it will impact the volume of a neighborhood."

It’s clear that the closing of the Row had a significant impact on the affordability and accessibility of accommodations in Midtown. The loss of such a central and budget-friendly option has definitely affected the local hotel market and the overall experience for visitors. Your perspective on the matter is really valuable.

Updated On: 8/21/24 at 07:40 AM

[GottaGetAGimmick420]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 8:56am

Gabriel6 said: "Bettyboy72 said: "I've been to NYC many times since the "crisis" began. At one point, I stayed at the Row which was housing migrants at the time. There were no issues.

I think what does impact Broadway is the closing of the Row. It had the most hotel rooms in midtown. Many people I know who went a few times a year for theatre pilgrimages liked the hotel because it was affordable and close to all the theatre. Many were elderly and appreciated the short walks. It wasn't luxurious, but it was clean, close and affordable. It's closing raised prices of other hotels because now rooms were more scarce.

So essentially if you convert a huge hotel to residences it will impact the volume of a neighborhood."

It’s clear that the closing of the Row had a significant impact on the affordability and accessibility of accommodations in Midtown. The loss of such a central and budget-friendly option has definitely affected the local hotel market and the overall experience for visitors. Your perspective on the matter is really valuable."

This. You can feel however you want to on the matter,  but it is affecting the return we’re seeing on tourism in the area.

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 9:28am

If I’m understanding this correctly,  it looks like The Row was on its way to closing anyway and using it as migrant housing may be what’s keeping it operational at all. This is from Wikipedia:

“The hotel was forced to close temporarily in 2020 due to the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in New York City. Werner began falling behind on mortgage payments in May 2020. The Paramount Group, which had lent $80 million to Thor Equities for the Row NYC's commercial condominium, foreclosed on the condominium in April 2022. At the time, the condominium was valued as $45 million, about 30 percent less than the price Thor had paid in 2014. Wells Fargo moved to foreclose on Werner's loan in September 2022.

Following an influx of asylum seekers to New York City in mid-2022, city officials considered converting part of the Row NYC into temporary housing for 700 asylum seekers that year. The city government agreed that October to use the Row NYC Hotel to house migrants as part of an agreement valued at $40 million.”

Sources:

• Modi, Priyanka (September 20, 2022). "Wells Fargo Files to Foreclose on David Werner at Row Hote.” The Real Deal New York
• Rebong, Kevin (April 14, 2022). "Thor Equities Loses Row NYC Hotel Retail to Foreclosure". The Real Deal New York.
• Rebong, Kevin (August 16, 2022). "Row NYC Hotel Poised to House Migrants". The Real Deal New York.
• Zraick, Karen (March 23, 2023). "How Manhattan Hotels Became Refuges for Thousands of Migrants". The New York Times. 

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 10:04am

The Row will remain a shelter for quite a bit longer.  There were reports that the Roosevelt Hotel was going to be shut down and go back to being a hotel but I’m not sure if that’s true.  All of this was completely avoidable if it wasn’t for the failures of the government, and the immigration activists they are bound to.  Those groups aren’t interested in a fair and stringent asylum system, they effectively want open borders, and sadly it’s had terrible consequences for the migrants getting abused in this country, and the Americans who have been hurt in many ways by this. 

[GottaGetAGimmick420]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 11:03am

We're quoting Wikipedia blindly now?

[Kad]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 11:12am

It’s not “blindly” if sources are cited, all of which support the Wikipedia summary. 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 3:33pm

GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "We're quoting Wikipedia blindly now?"

Are we still in high school where a teacher would lie to you and give the blanket statement that "Wikipedia is full of lies". It's not. 

[bigbelterbaby]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 3:42pm

They need to tear down Milford Plaza and Hotel Carter - it is unsafe having deteriorated hotels so close to Broadway with who knows who living in them. 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 6:02pm

Broadway Flash said: "Most people on this board clearly disagree with you, Jumpin. And what is wrong with my grammar?"

You speak for yourself ONLY, not “most people on this board”. Also, thanks for revealing yourself to be a right winger. This explains so much. 

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 6:53pm

I’ve also been wandering about the Hotel Carter.  I heard they ran out of money which is why the renovation has been in a standstill for years.  

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 8/19/24 at 8:51pm

It is astonishing to me that moderators have kept this ridiculous thread up page after page. If any of the migrants were D-list Broadway actors it would have lasted fifteen minutes. 

[persephone88]

Posted: 8/20/24 at 8:00am

This week, my daughter and her boyfriend were coming back from Cabaret walking down 8th Ave when a Hispanic family with a tiny little toddler passed them. The little girl accidentally ran into my daughter and grabbed her leg to steady herself. My daughter and her boyfriend were smiling over how cute this little one was when another man walking some distance behind the family jerked his thumb towards them and snarled, "Illegals!" 

THAT jerk was what spoiled a lovely afternoon in NYC for them, not the family with the baby.