Finally saw it in an empty theatre today ( Monday ) when it first started I had so many reservations about the changes made, original thought that JLo was wildly miscast. The Bill Condon had yet again destroyed another musical. Than something happened with the moment when “Where you are” began. It became thrilling and a different energy was born, everyone hit their stride and a capturing story started tO unfold. The three leads were fantastic, the lead up to the ending thrilling ( I did miss “Anything for him” ) it sets that ending up spectacularly. But that’s a minor quibble.
I was impressed.
Than something happened with the moment when “Where you are” began. It became thrilling and a different energy was born, everyone hit their stride and a capturing story started tO unfold.
I totally agree. I watched it at home on a huge 4K 60” TV via an industry screener and actually was enjoying Lopez and the film as it was unfolding but when Molina started singing those first lyrics to “Where You Are”, I erupted in applause and stood up with excitement and boy, did Sergio Trujillo deliver and with endless nods to the original Broadway choreography. Here Lopez oozed complete confidence and this was a true showcase of a superstar. Every nuanced gesture was brilliance.
I have a feeling this is one of those films that, even though it didn’t make a splash on release, will find new life on streaming—reaching a fresh audience and finally getting the appreciation it deserves.
Is there a streaming date yet?
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BrodyFosse123 said: "Than something happened with the moment when “Where you are” began. It became thrilling and a different energywas born, everyone hit their stride and a capturing story started tO unfold.
I totally agree. I watched it at home on a huge 4K 60” TV via an industry screener and actually was enjoying Lopez and the film as it was unfolding but when Molina started singing those first lyrics to “Where You Are”, I erupted in applause and stood up with excitement and boy, did Sergio Trujillo deliver and with endless nods to the original Broadway choreography. Here Lopez oozed complete confidence and this was a true showcase of a superstar. Every nuanced gesture was brilliance."
If you like Sergio's choreography, you should get to DC to se his new "Damn Yankees". It's wonderful. Closes this Sunday.
CarlosAlberto said: "I have a feeling this is one of those films that, even though it didn’t make a splash on release, will find new life on streaming—reaching a fresh audience and finally getting the appreciation it deserves."
I think it might too, partly because one reason it had such a tiny audience is a lot of people (frankly even more than I expected) seemed to have no idea what this even was, and would be more willing to check it out on streaming. I kinda wish it would go direct to a free streaming service instead of rental/buy (just because in the past few years when a movie that made no real impact at the theatre and then blows up on streaming, that's bee the model, not that I think this would ever be something like Saltburn which no one talked about in theatres and then everyone was obsessed with when it was streaming...) but I guess they want to try to make *some* money.
But it still has barely opened in any markets outside N America from what I can tell (well Roscoe just reported it has just opened in Australia where it seems to be doing just as well as it did here in Canada and the US judging by his empty theatre--glad you liked it though!)
Dame, the sties I see think it will go pay/rent on demand by the end of November and then streaming (apparently Lion's Gate has a deal with Hulu) in January but I wouldn't be surprised if they bumped it to earlier...
BrodyFosse123 said: "I totally agree. I watched it at home on a huge 4K 60” TV via an industry screener and actually was enjoying Lopez and the film as it was unfolding but when Molina started singing those first lyrics to “Where You Are”, I erupted in applause and stood up with excitement and boy, did Sergio Trujillo deliver and with endless nods to the original Broadway choreography. Here Lopez oozed complete confidence and this was a true showcase of a superstar. Every nuanced gesture was brilliance."
I say this with true affection, but your posts about this movie here have left me completely bewildered as to if you liked it or not. Weren't you just complaining in that the songs had too many cuts (and Where You Are--which I loved--was actually the only song that DID have a lot of quick edits...)
I say this with true affection, but your posts about this movie here have left me completely bewildered as to if you liked it or not. Weren't you just complaining in that the songs had too many cuts (and Where You Are--which I loved--was actually the only song that DID have a lot of quick edits...)
I watched the film just the other day for the first time. My other post from weeks ago was referencing comments made from others (YouTube reviewers, mostly) and not my assessment (re-read it: “And I watched a handful of YouTube reviews…”). One who did like the film never had seen the original Broadway production and watched the slime tutorial and saw how vastly different both adaptations are therefore said it’s ludicrous to compare them. The film is simply a Cliff Notes adaptation of the Broadway production.
I saw the original Broadway production with both Chita and Vanessa and will admit, though the musical is beautifully crafted, my only interest in the musical has always been, and remains, the Aurora sequences. I always zoned out during the rest of the show just waiting for the Aurora numbers. For this, I enjoyed the film adaptation. Didn’t have to slodge thru those endless non-Aurora numbers, which to this day, I can’t recall as even on the 2 separate cast recordings, I always skip.
BrodyFosse123 said: "I saw the original Broadway production with both Chita and Vanessa and will admit, though the musical is beautifully crafted, my only interest in the musical has always been, and remains, the Aurora sequences. I always zoned out during the rest of the show just waiting for the Aurora numbers. For this, I enjoyed the film adaptation. Didn’t have to slodge thru those endless non-Aurora numbers, which to this day, I can’t recall as even on the 2 separate cast recordings, I always skip."
I have noticed that there are people out there who are familiar with the stage version, but don't find the score to be top tier Kander & Ebb. Although some have found the movie to be an improvement in part because it doesn't use any of the songs set in the prison.
DAME said: "Is there a streaming date yet?"
There is not, but it’s pretty normal for a movie not to announce until the day before that it’ll be streaming (Tuesdays and Fridays). So keep an eye out!
The rumor is that the streaming date is next Tuesday, November 11. Looking forward to seeing the film.
https://whentostream.com/musical-kiss-of-the-spider-woman-digital-streaming-release-date-revealed/
Good. The FYC screener is already out. But as usual with those things, it is of poor quality.
Jeffrey Karasarides said: "
I have noticed that there are people out there who are familiar with the stage version, but don't find the score to be top tier Kander & Ebb. Although some have found the movie to be an improvement in part because it doesn't use any of the songs set in the prison."
I have heard this from a few people, and am always surprised. To me it's always been in their top tier scores (along with Cabaret, Zorba and Chicago--maybe it's telling that those were the shows they worked on with their strongest directors, Prince and Fosse... Don't get me wrong, every Kander and Ebb score has at least a handful of great numbers, sometimes more, but those are the four that really hold together the best for me)
I’ve always put this in the top three of Kander and Ebb scores to me it’s brilliant.
I love the score. So theatrical and elegant. I play the cast album all the time. I also thought the men and the ensemble were gorgeous and it carries thru in their singing . Over the wall.. day after that…
Jeffrey Karasarides said: "BrodyFosse123 said: "I saw the original Broadway production with both Chita and Vanessa and will admit, though the musical is beautifully crafted, my only interest in the musical has always been, and remains, the Aurora sequences. I always zoned out during the rest of the show just waiting for the Aurora numbers. For this, I enjoyed the film adaptation. Didn’t have to slodge thru those endless non-Aurora numbers, which to this day, I can’t recall as even on the 2 separate cast recordings, I always skip."
I have noticed that there are people out there who are familiar with the stage version, but don't find the score to be top tier Kander & Ebb. Although some have found the movie to be an improvement in part because it doesn't use any of the songs set in the prison."
I fall somewhere in the middle. I think in various ways most of the dropped songs don't work in terms of bringing conviciton to the material (mainly an issue with lyrics which have straight men articulating ideas in a way no straight man ever would; though it's actually the music that is mostly the problem with The Day After That--too close to One More Day from Les Mis), I absolutely love this score as an audio experience. I never skip a number listening to either cast recording.
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