Latebreaking RENT FILM CASTING NEWS- Page 36

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 7:55pm

"...they could injure their voices after having to sing for tens of takes, plus because they probably want there to be a level of consistency between what's on screen and what goes onto the soundtrack,... they'll probably opt for pre-recording, so I doubt it'll happen. But my guess is as good as yours!"

Very true, Tiff. I can't imagine that most of it won't be pre-recorded, especially group numbers and anything that's mostly played over montages anyway. I was thinking of something like LMC, which isn't so vocally demanding and depends a lot on interplay between the actors. That would be so great done live.

[insomniak]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:00pm

Are there any movie musicals that didn't dub? Will you be able to tell?

[timote316]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:05pm

The only thing you'd notice is the actor actually working for the sound. Like, they will actually appear to be hitting high notes. Whether or not this is a good thing on film can be debated lol.

I never thought of it, but LMC live would be a good idea.

[N0tThatGirl213]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:06pm

I don't think there's any way not to dub...the sound just wouldn't come out well. Although, I do know of some instances where they performed the songs life first and then looped the sound afterward. I think that probably has the best results. Not that I'm in any position to give any viable comments...

[JoAnne1]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:10pm

you guys are fascinating...

are you all going into (or already into) the biz?

the singing will have to be pre-recorded - there's really no other choice.

It allows for the maximum amount of control - moreover it's the thing that makes film different (in a good way and a bad way) from stage....

on stage you create the journey from start to finish every night - your challenge is to make it fresh and the fact that it's live adds to it because you NEVER know what's going to happen. You know what's SUPPOSED to happen - and, God willing, things will happen the way they should. When they don't, you get the true magic of theatre - actors in the moment and dealing with whatever comes. It can be a blast (usually afterwards though...

In film, however, you have the luxury of capturing the perfect moment FOREVER... it's kinda cool. It's not as immediate as stage - but it's the best way to preserve and idea for perpetuity....

both have their ups and downs - but I am very grateful for film... so many great peformers and performances will last forever because of it.

fwb

[insomniak]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:14pm

Fascinating, huh? Is that what people usually say before they put you in a straightjacket?

It makes sense, what you say about pre-recording and why it's necessary for film. Thanks for the insight. How have you been doing anyway and what are you up to now?

[N0tThatGirl213]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:17pm

Hey now, som, we just promised to be nice! ::threatens with spork and duct tape::

I certainly hope to be on Broadway one day, but I'm only 16, so I guess I have a while to wait before I find out if that's going to happen for me. I'm already addicted to theatre though.

[JoAnne1]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:28pm

just posted an update to the WELCOME ANTHONY RAPP board...

shoulda pasted it to the clipboard

fwb

[insomniak]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 8:30pm

I am being nice! I didn't even metion the SMD or the Gutter Demons.

Freddi, don't worry about getting it all on one thread, the same people look at both.

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/21/04 at 9:27pm

"you guys are fascinating...
are you all going into (or already into) the biz?"

Yeah, I work in post-production sound, so I'm really aware of lip-synching. There have been isolated cases of singing live in films... Diane Keaton did it in "Radio Days" for Woody Allen, and I'm pretty sure Barbra Streisand did it for at least part of one song in one of her movies. For the big School of Rock song at the end, Jack Black was singing into a live mike, even though there was also a pre-recording. For most of the close-ups it's the live performance that you hear, and the pre-recording was used for the longer shots and off-screen sections. But of course the vast majority of the time, it's just not feasible to go live.

[DfyGravity]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:46pm

Updated On: 11/23/04 at 02:46 PM

[DfyGravity]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:46pm

I'm new to the board... and in fact I only located it from doing a search on this exact topic (I am late in the game of learning about the RENT movie). I guess I just wanted to add my two cents on the whole thing - and I apologize if this has already been stated, but 36 pages is A LOT of posts to get through ( I did, however, give it a very valient effort :) ). I'm an original Rent fan and have seen several productions of it since it's first release. I've debated over and over in my head whether I felt making movies out of hit broadway shows was a good idea or not. I have worried, like a lot of you, that by taking something that was amazing on the stage and "selling it out" to a big movie studio that something gets lost... things gets changed... and just like fans of a good book that gets turned into a movie, the feeling that it is completely misrepresented or (insert words of choice here) is what I'm left with.

But when it comes down to it, film and theatre are different mediums. And I think the best way to look at it is that the Movie Rent is not going to be the play version or vise versa, whether you have the original cast or not. They are going to be two different pieces of the same work and have to be respected individually. Meaning, one shouldn't discredit the other. You can hate the movie, but still love the play - and if you have never seen the play, but are introduced to it through the movie then I would hope you are sensible enough to respect where it came from. The movie bombing doesn't take anything away from how amazing it is to see the show live. And it shouldn't. I hope that makes sense?

I personally would love to see the original cast, but I respect everyone's opinion on the matter - especially since I do think that not any ONE person can play a role. I'm sure there are several other people out there that can do the parts justice.

And as for the singing live, didn't they do the recording of "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" live? At least at some points? I watched the behind the scenes on the DVD and remembered the director/actor talking about wanting it to be a live recording for the opening number - which is another example of the original recreating the role and having it be wonderful.

Again, just my two cents. Glad to be on board!

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 10:21pm

DFY, I haven't been on here that long myself, but welcome! I agree with everything you wrote, especially about how different theater and film are. Anyway, glad to have some more input about live singing. I'll have to check out the Hedwig movie.

[antonijan]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 4:27am

They should make it!

[ABSteel]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 5:36am

Make what? A RENT 2?

If thee characters *were* real, and the first RENT was set in the mid 90s.... they'd be dead by now. Except Mark. Mark may still be alive. I'm not sure about anyone else.

[EdmundOG]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 5:44am

What the hell?

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 5:47am

RENT: The Next Generation

PLOT:

Mark leaves NYC after Collins, Roger, and Mimi have died of AIDS, because he can't take the heartache due to the memories that are all over the city. He moves to Dallas, Texas and meets up with a transexual named Star who has a bad case of gonhorea (sp?).
Star takes Mark back to his/her place where you meet Star's roomates--Bart, Adam, Doreen, and DiDi. Mark tells them the story of him and his friends standing up against Benny, and it inspires the group to lead a revolt against their mortgage company.

Updated On: 4/24/07 at 05:47 AM

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 6:50am

"If thee characters *were* real, and the first RENT was set in the mid 90s.... they'd be dead by now. Except Mark. Mark may still be alive. I'm not sure about anyone else."

Uh, no. Maureen, Joanne and Benny did not have the virus. And with the advance in HIV/AIDS drugs, there are many people who are still living with the disease who became infected over a decade ago. Mimi would probably be gone, but Collins and Roger being alive and relatively healthy would be a very real possibility.

Not that Rent 2 is a good idea. Because it's atrocious.

[MungoGypsy8232]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 6:51am

hahah, I just did a doubletake seeing the name of this thread! Updated On: 4/24/07 at 06:51 AM

[VIETgrlTerifa]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 8:55am

Maybe in Rent 2, they will FINALLY grow up and get jobs so they can fight the system without looking pathetic in the process.

[Jon]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 9:05am

Here's the plot of Rent 2: Mark directs his first feature film, but on the opening night, he dies of a brain aneurism. The movie is a huge hit.

Later, all the of old footage of Mimi, Roger, Angel, etc. is found, and edited together to make his posthumous second film, "Tick, Tick, Kablooey!"

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 10:21am

Why did anyone bother to dig this up?

[C is for Company]

Posted: 4/24/07 at 10:23am

Maybe Rent 2 can star Megan Lewis, right antonijan?

[TooDarnHot]

Posted: 5/4/08 at 11:53am

did IDINAISMYIDOL seriously bump this???

I have nothing to say to you...

[SirNotAppearing]

Posted: 5/4/08 at 12:01pm

I don't know what I can say.