Lestat = Le Bad- Page 2

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 9:50pm

Chloe, I realized it was a play on slang, but it still doesn't make any sense.

And anything I've seen or heard has not been positive, but I'm not particularly interested in Lestat so I haven't been seeking out reviews, good or bad. I also mentioned within my post that we had not been trashing Lestat in this thread.

And disliking Elton John's musicals doesn't mean I hate theater. He's hardly the alpha and omega of theatrical undertakings. This is a slippery slope though, so I'll leave it at that. Because The Lion King definitely has a lot to offer (and music that isn't his that is great), and apparently Billy Elliot is an amazing production, his music aside.

You're right though. Perhaps it'll be the most amazing show I've ever seen--wait, I've never really made any comments about it except about the music, so we'll amend that to Perhaps it'll be the most amazing music I've ever heard, and then, boy, will my foot be in my mouth.

[Kass983]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 9:51pm

Is this based on Interview.. AND The Vampire Lestat? The chronicles were good if odd entertainment. I'm having a hard time seeing this as a musical but I hope it does well.

Anne Rice has become Jesus-centric?? Weird.

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 9:53pm

Yes, it is both The Vampire Lestat & Interview With the Vampire. Lestat is Act 1 and Interview is Act 2 with apparently a bit of Queen of the Damned tossed in at the end (from what I've read.)

[tagiunagi]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:08pm

What happened to Noseworthy?

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:13pm

They want to take the character "in a new direction," whatever that means. I'd heard rumors he wasn't working well with the cast, who knows what the real story is.

[Sumofallthings]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:15pm

"That all aside, I applaud you for managing to mix two different song titles for your user name. Also, I have to ask sumofallthings if he really thinks Jimmy Fallon and David Spade are masters of comedy. Jimmy Fallon?"

It's called sarcasm darling. Perhaps you just don't have a decent grasp of it.

Kisses,

Sum

[jackson992]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:20pm

One thing that struck me as funny as the comment that you don't sympathize with Lestat. The same can be said in the books. Lestat is not a charcter you like or care what happens to.

[Chloe]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:29pm

Is that a criticism of the books (which I've never read), jackson? Obviously a lot of people loved the books, so I'm wondering whether that was the general consesnsus.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:32pm

Same here. I haven't read the books, and I feel like if I had, some of the stuff in the musical would make more sense (if at all possible). Then again, I shouldn't have HAD to know the source material that well to enjoy a separate piece of work based on it.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:40pm

Hah, I have a very good grasp on sarcasm, Sum, but I'm not here to debate how to use it effectively. So, kisses to you as well. It is, after all, Christmas!

[justpeachy]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:44pm

I really hope they fix it up before it comes to NYC.

I haven't read the books either. Is is necessary for me to do so before seeing it? I don't want to be confused.

[Kass983]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:40pm

I've read all the Vampire Chronicles, and was quite an avid Anne Rice fan 12 years ago or so. She has a Witch chronicle series too, though I can't recall the exact name of the series anymore. I think I liked those more actually.

She also wrote some erotica type stuff, really different, under the name Anne Rampling I believe.

Lestat comes across as not exactly sympathetic, and there are times you kind of hate him. But he's still fascinating somehow, and you actually do want to see what happens to him or what he does next.

Queen of the Damned, the weakest book in the series in my opinion, was a horrid little movie and tried to cram TVL and QOTD into one. QOTD is a VERY involved, cluttered, and confusing book. I'm a little confused how they would manage putting 'just' a bit of it in the musical. I'd like to hear more reviews about this.

Tale of the Body Thief, the 4th in the series was excellent though, and if QOTD hadn't flopped at the box office, it would have made a wonderful movie in the right hands.

[Urban]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:46pm

Kass983, Witches = Mayfair. :) Hope that helps.

[Kass983]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:56pm

YES! Thank you so much, I'll have a decent nights sleep now,lol.

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:57pm

NYNYBroadway baby, typical whiny response of "don't say anything bad about the show before you see it" but you can praise a show to high heaven before it comes out. The posters like you are wasting your time and are all being ridiculous, and by the way your post makes no sense.

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/25/05 at 12:04am

Lestat is a character you hate sometimes, when you read Interview for example because it is from Louis' point of view. However when you see Lestat's true love for Nicholas in "The Vampire Lestat" and see that he was abadoned the minute he was changed you do feel for him. And I disagree with the above poster, "The Queen of the Damned" puts everything into historical context and is an incredible book in the series, now hearing that they are throwing "a bit" of the QOTD at the end is ridiculous.

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 12/25/05 at 1:12am

Well I don't know how much of the QOTD stuff will be staying, from reviews I've read that seems to be the weakest part, so it may all be excised for all I know. (and I really don't know exactly what is there now as I haven't seen it yet.) They should probably just concentrate on the first 2 books and leave all the Akasha stuff out of it, since to really understand that you have to know a whole lot of backstory.

[jackson992]

Posted: 12/25/05 at 2:44am

Nope I love the books. I was just explainng why in this new musical we wouldn't sypathize with Lestat.

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 12/25/05 at 3:49am

You know,

back in the day: Broadway was considered "pop". And its consisting composers wrote "pop music". Because rock came along, and theatre wasn't quick to catch up (and it only really did with Hair, Godspell, Superstar and then a heap of flops), people have been caught on this cloud of insane frenzied snobbery. If a contemporary pop / rock composer enters the field people are (almost) like: "well, jee. They write pop. We'd rather hear music from the 40s and 50s". Whereas, the reason why the music of the 40s and 50s succeeded (primarily) is because it was the music of the time. There can be no denial

I praise Elton John and his efforts. I liked Aida, I didn't mind Lion King, and I'm looking forward to Billy Elliot (still can't wait to get that CD: not to mention the Broadway premiere). Also, I've been hoping that this one would break the vampire curse. I really really want this show to succeed because a) it's different and b) I want to see pop composers, the modern equivalents of the Rodgers and Harts, succeed in theatre. Steinman came close, but was lead astray with Dance of the Vampires. Wildhorn didn't have the right team. Elton John has written some of the most stirring songs I've ever heard: and I'm not a fan. I want this show to succeed

And I wish people would get off their high horses and accept that the reason Broadway succeeded in the first place (not to mention musical theatre itself) is because it was conditioned to its times. If theatre is just, say, an experimental show (with the musical echoes of the 40s) then who cares? No one wants to see that except old people and their parents. I welcome this show, and the work that Elton and Bernie are doing: and if it doesn't succeed, then it's only because it wasn't handled the proper way.

But don't get me started on that old "open mind versus snobbery" argument. I can get quite vicious in those

Updated On: 12/25/05 at 03:49 AM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 12/25/05 at 3:52am

I agree with you. But the problem is, not only does the music not really sound that contemporary, it doesn't sound like Elton John, either. A lot of it also sounds like recitative sung slowly: uninteresting and there to move the plot along in a sung-through musical (which it is not).

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 12/25/05 at 3:54am

Well, since you saw the show you are right to comment. Others who haven't should not. I'll wait to see the show and revise my thoughts on the matter

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/30/05 at 5:36pm

There is too much backstory period for this to be faithful to the story of the Vampire Lestat. It cannot be done properly, I've asked and everyone who has seen this show says their isn't enough time to cover TWO novels which are both very indepth. I received a PM regarding this and caveat to all of the posters, I only speak about this from reading the books, the reviews and the posts on this board. So don't waste my time telling me to give it a chance. If i said I loved everything about the show before seeing it, no one would bother telling me to not speak about it before seeing it. Out of morbid curiosity I will see the show as I did see the horrible movie of the "Queen of the Damned" which CLAIMED to cover books 2 & 3 "The Vampire Lestat" and "The Queen of the Damned".

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 5:45am

Amusing review I found on metblogs:
" An afternoon at the theater"

[son_of_a_gunn_25]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 6:28am

"NYNYBroadway baby, typical whiny response of "don't say anything bad about the show before you see it" but you can praise a show to high heaven before it comes out."

You can praise aspects of a show you know or have experienced. Or at the same time you can dislike aspects of it you know or have experienced. Where people get into dangerous territory is when they entirely dimiss or praise all aspects of a show when they have not seen it in a final form. I am not going to respect the opinion of someone who says a show sucks and then we later find out they are just going on the opinion of others or how they picture the show in their head. Don't assume or at some point you might as roninjoey said, have to put your foot in your mouth. We all slip into it sometimes, but we should be more guarded about completely dismissing something this early in the creative process. Let's remember that this stage is for finding out the problems and fixing them. Much could still change between now and its Broadway Opening.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 12:23pm

My wife used to be a big fan but said her last 3 or 4 books have been dreck

Still, it may succeed because of the fact John wrote the music & Rice's name & title recognition will count for something. How long it lasts will depend on word of mouth. Aida was closed down & retooled & was a hit so the same could happen here

Remember a vampire never dies except if it is played by Michael Crawford or Tom Hewitt