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[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 2:53pm

Idiot said: "Dear Ensem,

Your maniacal crusade to label people as racist infuriates me, so I spent some time in introspection. Investigating why something makes you angry is enlightening.

We’ve entered a social chapter where words like racist and pedophile are used insincerely and you’re guilty of it. Your passion may be real, but your goal is not what you’re hoping people will mistake to be. It’s vile.

Caring about mistreatment based on race is inarguably a positive thing. Using the word ‘racist’ to wrest cheappower over others (see: The Crucible) is ethically corrupt – and it’s what you’re doing.

Patti wasn’t being racist – she crossed the line from salty to tacky and if she didn’t know it she wouldn’t have apologized. The accusation of sublimated racism made by Ms. Lewis is likely what set her off – and I don’t blame her for that. I blame people with your self-serving, wickedly casual misuse of that potentially fatal label. The fatality of it is what turns you on. You’re like a child with a gun. I hope there’s nothing micro about the aggression I mean to convey about what you’re spewing here. It’s poisonous to the very thing you hope to be seen as advocating for.

To evoke that other open letter, WE SEE YOU – but not as the crusader you fancy yourself to be - rather, as a selfish, petulant charlatan doing real harm to important progress. "

Here is what you all don’t seem to understand. I’m not looking for allies on a BWW thread. Nothing I say was ever going to convince you, and truthfully it is not my job to educate you. It is my job to defend a Black woman who Ms. Lupone attempted to discredit - as many of you continue to do at every angle.

The word racist triggers the Karen in a lot of you on this board. You only can acknowledge racism when someone has been murdered. You don’t walk around this world or industry in a skin that lessens your chances at a job. Kecia does. Patti doesn’t. There’s a built in privilege in that. Not blaming Patti, but that’s the reality there. 
 

Racism is a spectrum, and whether Patti intended to or not, her actions fell very much within the lines of a micro aggressive history towards POC. Acknowledging that was all the community was asking. But the lack of ability to take blame led us here. It took an uproar. I’ll admit when I’m wrong. My intentions don’t always match my actions and when I care I have to apologize. 

Patti could’ve long ago but waltzed on by and ignored Kecia’s public call in. The privilege is to brush that off and then talk smack about Kecia. Patti Lupone is not a raging racist, but her actions have made her appear to be and that’s the issue at hand. 

[abcd12]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 2:59pm

BdwyFan said: "Audra 100% winning Tony next week. Any doubts removed now."

To quote Sister Aloysius, I have doubts. I have such doubts. 

[ER765]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 3:03pm

Ensemble1698878795 said: "It is my job to defend a Black woman who Ms. Lupone attempted to discredit -as many of you continue to do at every angle.”

Like - literally your job? You’re on Kecia’s pay roll? Because if so, it would explain a lot. 

Ensemble1698878795 said: “You only can acknowledge racism when someone has been murdered.”

Aaaaand we’re back to murder.

 

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 3:20pm

ER765 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "It is my job to defend a Black woman who Ms. Lupone attempted to discredit -as many of you continue to do at every angle.”

Like - literally your job? You’re on Kecia’s pay roll? Because if so, it would explain a lot.

Ensemble1698878795 said: “You only can acknowledge racism when someone has been murdered.”

Aaaaand we’re back to murder.

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And this response is why white people are called racist. You (even if you aren’t white in this case) belittle POC at every turn. You’re smart enough to comprehend, but prefer a cheap uneducated retort.  Even when we try and communicate with decency, you must undercut. It’s in your blood. You must evade. It’s why Patti thought she could undercut Kecia as a bitch and she learned real quick she can’t.


 

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 3:26pm

ER765 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "It is my job to defend a Black woman who Ms. Lupone attempted to discredit -as many of you continue to do at every angle.”

Like - literally your job? You’re on Kecia’s pay roll? Because if so, it would explain a lot.

Ensemble1698878795 said: “You only can acknowledge racism when someone has been murdered.”

Aaaaand we’re back to murder.



 

[ER765]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 3:28pm

Oh, please. You don’t know sh*t about me. And thank God for that. Evading what…? I’ve been very clear and specific in my responses to your bullsh*t. Whoever your therapist is, they deserve a raise. Have a nice life.

[bwayobsessed]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 4:13pm

I think some people here should work on their abilities to make an apology 

[ViniFromBrazil]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 4:27pm

I knew exactly what I was going to read when I opened this thread and I was still blown away.

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 7:49pm

ER765 said: "Oh, please. You don’t know sh*t about me.And thank God for that. Evading what…? I’ve been very clear and specific in my responses to your bullsh*t. Whoever your therapist is, they deservea raise. Have a nice life."

Just checking in…

Wow! Ok… so we’re at this point…

[SmokeyLady]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 9:56pm

DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "ER765 said: "Oh, please. You don’t know sh*t about me.And thank God for that. Evading what…? I’ve been very clear and specific in my responses to your bullsh*t. Whoever your therapist is, they deservea raise. Have a nice life."

Just checking in…

Wow! Ok… so we’re at this point…"

Your check-ins ….  😎

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 11:12pm

I didn’t think it could worse. How wrong I was! 

[blaxx]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 11:37pm

Mods, why won't you lock this thread?

[g.d.e.l.g.i.]

Posted: 6/1/25 at 11:41pm

They evidently have a morbid fascination with what the waiting room for the latest Boys in the Band auditions would sound like.

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 1:11am

ER765 said: "Oh, please. You don’t know sh*t about me.And thank God for that. Evading what…? I’ve been very clear and specific in my responses to your bullsh*t. Whoever your therapist is, they deservea raise. Have a nice life."

Well I know that you're smart enough to be a stupid when you want to be. You've shown everyone that on your own accord for free. You're irritated because your best response is to deflect.  Can you have an adult conversation or are we still n middle school? You have no actual leg to stand on besides digging jokes about the racism I've referenced. It's giving white girl tears with no depth. Good luck, babe. 

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 1:13am

DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "ER765 said: "Oh, please. You don’t know sh*t about me.And thank God for that. Evading what…? I’ve been very clear and specific in my responses to your bullsh*t. Whoever your therapist is, they deservea raise. Have a nice life."

Just checking in…

Wow! Ok… so we’re at this point…"

It's giving spiral. I don't think they're okay. I'm hoping they have a therapist because they're so worried about mine. 

 

[Bette's Turban]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 1:36am

blaxx said: "Mods, why won't you lock this thread?"

BWW will simmer down a week after the Tonys.  Enjoy the trash talk now.

[FolliesCabaret]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 1:43am

[Bette's Turban]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 2:30am

Updated On: 6/2/25 at 02:30 AM

[BWAY Baby2]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 6:29am

I say- no racism here- no micro aggressions--nothing here but a big mouth bully expressing herself once too often. She is a very opinionated person- who loves to give her honest reaction to her peers behavior and performances- totally unnecessary to report to the press- a big mouth assh*** who thinks she can get away with this because it is just her POV. I am glad she finally had some consequences.

[joevitus]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 9:27am

blaxx said: "Mods, why won't you lock this thread?"

Why not just ignore the thread if it bothers you so much.

If the mods were going to take any action regarding this thread, it would have happened long before now.

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 10:12am

Mention Patti Murin and it will be locked in a jiffy 

[Bette's Turban]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 11:04am

 

 

Updated On: 6/2/25 at 11:04 AM

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 11:14am

blaxx said: "Mods, why won't you lock this thread?"

If you want the thread locked so much, just post something that SuttonRoss finds personally offensive and the mods will have the thread locked in 5 seconds flat.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 11:50am

Bette's Turban said: "

 

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Gosh I do love the woman.  Two or three years ago she did a concert for Aids Project LA and made us some money.  A few years back she did a show with Marc Shaiman, Bette Midler and Jennifer Lewis to support Outfest.  This woman has done some good for many.  She is back in LA this February and tickets have neen purchased. 

[RussT2]

Posted: 6/2/25 at 1:40pm

This Sunday's TONY awards is going to be sooooo good. I would *LOVE* to see Patti Lupone walk out and give the award for best actress in a musical. It would be as if Voldemort walked out on stage. Remember when Scorsese and DeNiro walked out to present an honorary Oscar to Elia Kazan? Half the audience shot daggers!