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#26

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Amazing!!! Thank you for posting the link. re: Movies.com Rent clips Thank you god... I think the LVB intro has officially made my night. Wow, it's only one more week. YAY!
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#27

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These clips I think show the good and the bad of the artistic vision behind the complete film:

The good ("Light My Candle," "Out Tonight") are solid translations of the material in cinematic language --

The bad ("Today 4 U" and "Santa Fe") are directed very sloppily, IMO. You can't really focus on any of the lyrics of "Today 4 U" because of the frenetic camera work, and yet, rather then focus on Angels face you get wierd close ups of Collins clearing the table for the dance.

And in "Santa Fe" -- there just isn't anything going on. What you see here is what you get for the entire number -- no plot development, character development or cinematic experience -- It could surely have been filmed in a way to encompass all three.

One of my biggest complaints with the film is that often, Columbus doesn't seem to be focusing the camera on what the audience wants to see. There also is a frustrating lack of close ups.

I will add however that the film "looks" much better on a big screen. The art direction is quite impressive in the theatre.

Updated On: 11/16/05 at 01:55 AM

#28

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These are the clips that are serviced on the electronic press kit, so these are the scenes you will see ad nauseum on all the television news pieces and such.
#29

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Well I like these clips and I'll probably like them on screen.
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#31

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I'm literally going to be sick if I see any more clips. Not cause I don't like them...it's because I do.
#32

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Just finished watching these. Wonderful!!! Saturday can't get here soon enough!

Edit to respond to above post: Michael- To me, "Santa Fe" never seemed like one of those songs that advances the plot much. The way I saw it, it's purpose was to introduce the idea of going there so that when Roger leaves it's not completely out of the blue. Therefore, the way it was done in the movie does make complete sense.

Updated On: 11/16/05 at 11:19 AM

#33

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YAY! They Bought My Footage is my favorite clip! Just seeing them speak instead of sing... fun!

One week from today!
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#34

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Wow... omfg i cant wait
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#35

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Wait what's on Saturday? a screening?
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#36

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Those clips were amazing. I have no fear for this movie at all now. Can't it be the 23rd yet?
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#37

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One word: Excited!!!!!!!
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#38

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I really don't want to start another thread, though I'm sure someone will anyway, hehe. New blog entry! "On Their Characters".
#39

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EverythingisRent- The screening is here in Chicago on Saturday. It's a benefit for Interlochen and Anthony will be here. My excitement is palpable.
#40

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I can't bring myself to watch them.... I watched Anthony riding his bike for three seconds and shut it off.... I just don't want to spoil the excitement when I see it onscreen for the first time.

I'm so jealous of all of you who've already seen it or are seeing it before me! Hopefully I'll get tickets to a screening on Monday... if I'll definetly be going to the one on Tuesday.

.... sigh.... LESS THAN A WEEK!!!!! re: Movies.com Rent clips re: Movies.com Rent clips re: Movies.com Rent clips re: Movies.com Rent clips re: Movies.com Rent clips
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#41

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thanx for posting! Awesome clips!
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#42

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Am I the only person who's actually worried about all this added dialogue? I mean, it raises some interesting questions?

What did they take away musically so that the dialogue and the songs aren't redundant?

By de-musicalizing some of the dialogue, aren't are you taking something away from what Rent is? Rent isn't a book musical, it's a rock opera. Aren't we losing some of that rock-opera/New York/rhythmic edge that Rent has always had?

The most difficult moment for any musical to pull off (stage or screen) is the split-second transition from talking to singing. Why add more dialogue and create more of those potentially hazardous transitions than what was already built-in to the score?

Anyway, just a few concerns. The mere fact that so many of the original Broadway cast is being used is far more than I could ever have hoped...but I for one have been VERY surprised by the amount of spoken dialague we've seen in these clips and trailers so far.

Updated On: 11/16/05 at 03:25 PM

#43

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Great clips. It's getting me really hyped about seeing the movie, no matter how not good some people think it is.

And no, I don't mind the addition of dialogue. In the clip "They Bought My Footage," they show that Mark's footage was sold (they allude to it in the show, it's sung by Mark's Mom I believe), they show tension in the Mark/Maureen/Joanne relationship, and they remind us that they can pay for dinner that night because of Angel (I don't think they show that in the show). All in one short clip of dialogue. So what's wrong with that? It fills out some holes in the show as it appears to me.

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#44

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Plus, fully sung movie musicals don't seem to work well as movies. Watch any ALW movie musical and you'll find that.

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#45

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I watched two clips and turned it off...it's my meager attempt at doing a "blackout" on further footage of this movie until I actually see the movie. But it's hard, oh so hard!

Honestly though - i thought the "footage" dialogue was a little awkward. Maybe I'm too used to "No, please no, not tonight..." being sung. I need to open my mind up to dialogue here and give the movie it's own, objective chance. I so want to like it. I hope I do!

Updated On: 11/16/05 at 03:38 PM

#46

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I agree with HeyMrMusic on this one. We're talking about a movie musical, not a taping of the stage production. And if you notice in the dialogue we've seen, it seems to be mostly made up of parts of the songs that were pretty much spoken in the stage production anyway. So I really don't think that any of it will end up being redundant.

"The most difficult moment for any musical to pull off (stage or screen) is the split-second transition from talking to singing."
I don't understand why you think this. If you know you're going to see a musical, why is this transition difficult? (I'm assuming you're taling about from an audience perspective.) It's all about inhabiting the world of the production and suspension of disbelief.

I'm actually surprised that there isn't a bit more dialogue in this movie. Somewhere I read an interview with Columbus where he said that there's only about 15-20 minutes of actual dialogue in the film. And it remains to be seen whether or not that's a good thing. For me, dialogue can really either make or break any movie.
#47

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i just viewed them all and they was great thank you im gonna view them again later thanks again
#48

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so good, so good! can't wait till 12:01am wednesday!!
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#49

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Katie...I'm talking from any perspective. Of course people expect characters to sing when they go see a musical. But I've seen my share of new and classic musical theatre where that dialogue-to-song transition is just plain sloppy, and not believable. Sometimes that's the fault of the director, sometimes, the book, and sometimes the score.

My point with Rent is that I would think it would be easier for a typical, non-musical-theatre-loving audience to accept if they just sung all the time, rather than creating what many of those same people awkwardly refer to as "bursting into song."

Don't get me wrong -- I'm thrilled that this movie even exists. I'm just surprised that the addition of this dialogue hasn't been a bigger discussion point on these threads, that's all.
#50

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Well, then again, you have to think that not every song will work out on film. For example, I think it'd be pretty hard to film "Christmas Bells" or "Contact," which is probably why they didn't include those songs in the movie. And really, there are plot holes in the show and some of the character relationships are a bit unclear, which is why there is a synopsis of the show and a character tree in the Playbill, and also why added dialogue is necessary for film audiences to understand what's going on.

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