Nederlander Oragnization Called Out- Page 3

[fatbastard1234]

Posted: 6/8/20 at 4:32pm

Where do you think Jordan Roth got the money to buy his share of Jujamcyn?

His father's company (Vornado) also owns the building that Open Jar Studios is in.  Are we going to ask Open Jar Studios to move?  Open Jar's financial backers include the Shuberts and Barry Weissler.  The Weisslers have an apt in a Trump building.  

If you found out who owns most of the buildings in Manhattan, you'd find more Trump/Republican donors than you'd ever want to see in your entire life.

If you're going to avoid things, organizations, businesses, buildings, etc., owned by people who donate to Trump/Republican things, you'll never be able to go to Hudson Yards, or Soul Cycle, or Equinox, Radio City Music Hall, Madison Square Garden, and a million other places.
 

Updated On: 6/8/20 at 04:32 PM

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 6/8/20 at 7:55pm

Tag said: "Is there going to be a sea change in terms of accountability for donations? Or is this one going to blow over just like the musical theatre MeToo reckoning?"

It's like 20 people yelling on Twitter. It will blow over. The white mid-east audiences don't care."

And there you have it in one friggin' nutshell.

 

Privilege is when YOU think something is not a PROBLEM because it's not a problem to you PERSONALLY.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 12:49am

It's like 20 people yelling on Twitter.  It will blow over.

Perhaps you would like systemic racism to blow over? Whatever, it doesn't matter what you think, it WON'T and this incredible open letter is a start. It is signed by the best and brightest BIPOC in the theater community. So, nah, not 20 randoms on socials anymore. Deal with it.

Dear White American Theater

 

Updated On: 6/9/20 at 12:49 AM

[Luminaire2]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 1:09am

Sutton Ross said: "It's like 20 people yelling on Twitter. It will blow over.

Perhaps you would like systemic racism to blow over? Whatever, it doesn't matter what you think, it WON'T and this incredible open letter is a start. It is signed by the best and brightest BIPOCin the theater community.So, nah, not 20 randoms on socials anymore. Deal with it.

Dear White American Theater

"

Wow. 

[WayTooBroadway]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 1:16am

POC > POS White People.

[Tag]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 11:53am

Sutton Ross said: "It's like 20 people yelling on Twitter. It will blow over.

Perhaps you would like systemic racism to blow over? Whatever, it doesn't matter what you think, it WON'T and this incredible open letter is a start. It is signed by the best and brightest BIPOCin the theater community.So, nah, not 20 randoms on socials anymore. Deal with it.

My comment was in reference to the Twitter uproar over the 2016 campaign donations.

 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 12:53pm

It's gained a decent amount of traction on instagram.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 12:55pm

Tag said: "My comment was in reference to the Twitter uproar over the 2016 campaign donations."

It's part and parcel of the same phenomenon.

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 1:47pm

Why “BIPOC” instead of “PoC?”

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 1:49pm

The term BIPOC stands for 'Black, Indigenous, People of Color,' it is meant to unite all people of color in the work for liberation while intentionally acknowledging that not all people of color face the same levels of injustice.

[Mike Barrett]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 2:52pm

Tag said: "Sutton Ross said: "It's like 20 people yelling on Twitter. It will blow over.

Perhaps you would like systemic racism to blow over? Whatever, it doesn't matter what you think, it WON'T and this incredible open letter is a start. It is signed by the best and brightest BIPOCin the theater community.So, nah, not 20 randoms on socials anymore. Deal with it.

My comment was in reference to the Twitter uproar over the 2016 campaign donations.

"

I’ll say, I don’t believe this! You’re complaining abort Karen Olivo’s and Eden’s direct responses today, and how the people complaining over this will “blow over”, but now it’s about 2016? Your cards are showing! Nice try though! 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 3:12pm

^ 100%

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 3:34pm

I find that very confusing lol

[Tag]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 3:40pm

Mike Barrett, I don't understand your comment, but...

My point to clarify again, as we seem to have lost the plot, is that many Broadway theatre-goers won't care (or be aware of) what Eden or Karen have to say about donations that were made in 2016 to the Trump campaign.  That doesn't mean they shouldn't care.  But also, you have to realize there are many Republicans and Trump supporters that make up the Broadway audience (not to mention those who work on Broadway) who would support such donations.

Updated On: 6/9/20 at 03:40 PM

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 5:45pm

I also think that there is an important fact you need to keep in mind. And, it pains me to say this because I'd like to not think it to be true but I am sure it is. There are producers who can produce a good upbeat show with a positive message, who, themselves are Republicans. The reason is that, although they may not agree with a show's message, they have a keen eye and know that it would sell. I think that something like that is part of the ongoing race issues faced in theatre today 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 5:56pm

Tag said: "Mike Barrett, I don't understand your comment, but...

My point to clarify again, as we seem to have lost the plot, is that many Broadway theatre-goers won't care (or be aware of) what Eden or Karen have to say about donations that were made in 2016 to the Trump campaign. That doesn't mean they shouldn't care. But also, you have to realize there are many Republicans and Trump supporters that make up the Broadwayaudience (not to mention those whowork on Broadway) who would support such donations."

On the contrary, I don't think you had the plot to begin with. This has nothing to do with audiences; it is about the industry. 

[Tag]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 6:30pm

^Where's the money coming from?

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/9/20 at 6:49pm

This thread has nothing to do with the audiences on Broadway. Nothing. Zero. It has to do with the people who run the theaters, the theater owners and the actors who chose to work there. 

How many more people need to tell you that for you to get it?

[Mike Barrett]

Posted: 6/10/20 at 10:15am

Tag said: "^Where's the money coming from?"

No one is discussing the money from shows other than you, this is why I found your comment to be BS. Its about the theatre owners, not audiences and who comes and goes to a show. Legit has nothing to do with this. You said no one is clamoring for Eden Espinosa to be in a show since she hasn't been on Broadway since 2008, that comment had nothing to do with the audiences and all to do with the producers, since her comment was stating she has no interest in performing in a Nederlander owned theatre. You're lost on this one.

Audiences were never going to buy tickets for either of these performers anyways, since they are not A-listers or very well known outside of this community. You seem defensive and again, the cards are showing whether you understand it or not, which is a different issue in itself.