Nicole Scherzinger to star in West End Sunset Boulevard at the Savoy- Page 22

[Robbie2]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 1:11am

Dylan Smith4 said: "I still think they could make this work if it goes to the Majestic. The stage door is on 45th Street. Tom Francis could walk down 45th, cut through Shubert Alley, and re-enter the Majestic on 44th."

That would work but isn't it going in the James?

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 2:30am

I wouldn't go to times square or 8th ave.  It's dangerous as there have been shootings and other crimes committed recently.  If they were smart, they'd go to the Hudson.  He can go out the stage door on 45th and walk to 6th ave, get a good shot of him with the empire state building in the background, walk to 44th and enter through the front.

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 10:50am

They’re not choosing a theatre based on an outdoors scene than can be adapted based on where they are. So no, if they were smart they wouldn’t  go into the Hudson. 

Updated On: 2/23/24 at 10:50 AM

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 10:55am

Robbie2 said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "I still think they could make this work if it goes to the Majestic. The stage door is on 45th Street. Tom Francis could walk down 45th, cut through Shubert Alley, and re-enter the Majestic on 44th."

That would work but isn't it going in the James?"

That's one of the rumors, but I just think it won't work there. The Majestic is perfect for this show. 

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 10:58am

BroadwayNYC2 said: "They’re not choosing a theatre based on an outdoors scene than can be adapted based on where they are. So no, if they were smart they wouldn’t go into the Hudson."

Agreed. I think people are putting WAY too much thought into the one outdoor scene. They will make it work no matter where the show lands, and I don't think they will be picking a theatre solely based on that one scene alone.

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 11:07am

I think the Hudson is better for more than that one scene.  It’s smaller and more intimate.  The St James just feels so huge like there should be a large set and big numbers. 

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 11:09am

It won’t work in the Hudson. Set or not, it is still a large show.  

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 11:35am

We’ve been through this before.  Just because it has a somewhat large cast doesn’t make it a large show. 

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:10pm

Broadway Flash said: "We’ve been through this before. Just because it has a somewhat large cast doesn’t make it a large show."

You also seem to forget that this show has a MASSIVE video screen that moves in and out of the fly space. The stage needs to be massive to accommodate it. Therefore, it is a LARGE show. 

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:16pm

I’m really not going to fight you on things you know nothing about. You’re clearly passionate about theater and the business of it, that’s great! Spend the time to actually learn about it.

[FANtomFollies]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:16pm

Dylan Smith4 said: "Broadway Flash said: "We’ve been through this before. Just because it has a somewhat large cast doesn’t make it a large show."

You also seem to forget that this show has a MASSIVE video screen that moves in and out of the fly space. The stage needs to be massive to accommodate it. Therefore, it is a LARGE show."

Yep. It also probably has to do with the fact that the larger the cast the more dressing rooms and backstage space you need. I feel like no one ever thinks about that being a deciding factor in choosing a theater.

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:27pm

Exactly. This board has become a deluge of WHAT SHOW IS COMING IN TO X THEATER or PHANTOM REVIVAL WHEN without any actual productive conversation or reason as to why. I get the excitement, but it’s getting weird

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:36pm

BroadwayNYC2 said: "I’m really not going to fight you on things you know nothing about. You’re clearly passionate about theater and the business of it, that’s great! Spend the time to actually learn about it.

I'm not fighting with you or anyone. Chill out!

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:39pm

I’m not talking to you lol, I’m agreeing with you.  We’re on the same page :)

Updated On: 2/23/24 at 12:39 PM

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:42pm

You’re gonna have egg on your face when the announcement comes. 

[Listener]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:47pm

I am so, so bummed about this revival. Hottie Norma. No set. Modern (aka budget) staging.

I guess I should have seen Close a few years ago. At least she still had pieces of the old costumes on.

...is the Brightman version going to be period? Big scale?

[OhHiii]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:48pm

Broadway Flash said: "You’re gonna have egg on your face when the announcement comes."

You just have to laugh at this point. Someone bookmark this message.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 12:54pm

Listener said: "I am so, so bummed about this revival. Hottie Norma. No set. Modern (aka budget) staging.

I guess I should have seen Close a few years ago. At least she still had pieces of the old costumes on.

...is the Brightman version going to be period? Big scale?"

The lack of imagination for so many on this topic without even seeing the production (and outright even refusing to go in to see what it's all about) has me really concerned for the future of theatre. Patti was right, we've dumbed it down far too much and people have gotten used to it.

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 1:05pm

Everyone who has seen it has talked about how gimmicky it is. The poster of Nicole as a ****cat doll, alw cutout, the walk outside.  I’m all for gimmicks on stage, I like how self aware it is, but I can see how some people would be turned off by it even without seeing it.  To each their own.  I doubt this wins best revival anyway especially with the Audra simon Godwin gypsy coming in and whatever Andre and Bart have cooking up at lct. 

[TaffyDavenport]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 1:13pm

Listener said: 

"I guess I should have seen Close a few years ago. At least she still had pieces of the old costumes on."

And pieces of a singing voice, to boot.

 

[OhHiii]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 1:14pm

Broadway Flash said: "Everyone who has seen it has talked about how gimmicky it is. The poster of Nicole as a ****cat doll, alw cutout, the walk outside. I’m all for gimmicks on stage, I like how self aware it is, but I can see how some people would be turned off by it even without seeing it. To each their own. I doubt this wins best revival anyway especially with the Audra simon Godwin gypsy coming in and whatever Andre and Bart have cooking up at lct."

You lost all credibility with your very first word. No, everyone has not talked about that. The response has been overwhelmingly positive. You're saying demonstrably false things. Own it.

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 1:16pm

Are you saying that those things aren’t gimmicks?  I’m not talking about whether they like it or not, I’m just describing what others have said is in the show. Not an opinion, just facts. 

[OhHiii]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 1:39pm

Broadway Flash said: "Are you saying that those things aren’t gimmicks? I’m not talking about whether they like it or not, I’m just describing what others have said is in the show. Not an opinion, just facts."

The things you list are aspects that are within the concept of the show, that's the fact. You don't want this production to happen. You've made it clear. And you cheerlead most shows' failures all over this board before they even start performances. So, it's unsurprising how everyone approaches interactions with you.

[Listener]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 2:15pm

TaffyDavenport said: "Listener said:

"I guess I should have seen Close a few years ago. At least she still had pieces of the old costumes on."

And pieces of a singing voice, to boot.

"

Well she never had more than that to begin with,  which is why I stayed away, LOL.

OhHiii, I'm not incapable of appreciating a reimagined work. I'm not closedminded to theatre being minimal or stark.

I am, however, sensitive to the cheapening of theatre, in an era where we're being gouged at the grocery store, and AI is threatening so many industries and jobs.

I like painted backdrops, period costumes, vintage-inspired furniture and sets...and age-appropriate casting.

Norma is supposed to be an older woman whose looks aren't enough. Nicole looks like JLo. She's not getting turned down by men, or the entertainment industry.

The "put a sexy star in the lead and that's all you need" mindset is taking over live theatre.

Webber and his collaborators don't have to recreate the lavish original to still be offering something substantive.

This...just reeks of Do It On The Cheap energy, and it undermines the opportunities the original work presents.

I'm sure it works fine here and there, and I'm sure some people will love it - heck, I sat next to people whooping and hollering at New York, New York - but I just see someone with money cutting corners and pretending we're too dumb to notice.

Nicole may be a similar age to past Normas, but there's a clear difference. There's no mistaking what's being emphasized here....and what's lacking.

Again, it'll be interesting to see how Sarah is treated.

Updated On: 2/23/24 at 02:15 PM

[Ensemble1696584123]

Posted: 2/23/24 at 2:26pm

Listener said: "TaffyDavenport said: "Listener said:

"I guess I should have seen Close a few years ago. At least she still had pieces of the old costumes on."

And pieces of a singing voice, to boot.

"

Well she never had more than that to begin with, which is why I stayed away, LOL.

OhHiii, I'm not incapable of appreciating a reimagined work. I'm not closedmindedto theatre being minimal orstark.

I am, however, sensitive to the cheapening of theatre, in an era where we're being gouged at the grocery store, and AI is threatening so many industries and jobs.

I like painted backdrops, period costumes, vintage-inspired furniture and sets...and age-appropriate casting.

Norma is supposed to be an older woman whose looks aren't enough. Nicole looks like JLo. She's not getting turned down by men, or the entertainment industry.

The "put a sexy star in the lead and that's all you need" mindset is taking over live theatre.

Webber and his collaborators don't have to recreate the lavish original to still be offering something substantive.

This...just reeks of Do It On The Cheap energy, and it undermines the opportunities the original work presents.

I'm sure it works fine here and there, and I'm sure some people will love it - heck, I sat next topeople whooping and hollering at New York, New York - butI just seesomeone with money cutting corners and pretending we're too dumb to notice.

Nicole may be a similar age to past Normas, but there's a clear difference. There's no mistaking what's being emphasized here....and what's lacking.

Again, it'll be interesting to see how Sarah is treated."

It is going to cost 17 million, so it is not really a matter of budget cuts. Lloyd does that with everything he does, even when he has massive stars and all the budget they can command.

Any nothing about what you've written actually suggests that you are open to what is being done for the production, since Nicole looking younger plays into the concept, per reviews.

But anyhow, you are not alone, and part a lot of people on here who seem to have made up their mind about many shows without seeing a single second.