Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
PaulWom
Featured Actor Joined: 8/8/16
#200Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 7:15am
I can't post it here, because I think his FB page is private, but one of the Comet dressers commented on Brad Giovanine's post about "cultivating new diversity":
"Skipping out on your music/instrument lessons for 2 months doesn't cultivate skill with that instrument either"
the teeeeaaaaa
#201Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 8:13am
Why do I not see any interviews with Oak stating: "Roles must be nurtured.....no matter what color you are"?
Oh wait, only his color must be nurtured.
Too bad for him this role wasn't about that. Such a wake up call and still sleeping....
#202Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 8:46am
Dave28282 said: "Why do I not see any interviews with Oak stating: "Roles must be nurtured.....no matter what color you are"?"
Because only you talk like that?
#203Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 1:05pm
"Because only you talk like that?"
ROFL
schubox
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/16
#204Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 1:39pm
Call_me_jorge said: "I love how supportive Ben Stillers daughter is. Lol"
The last time I saw it Stiller was there with his daughter and I think I heard him say it was his 4th time and her 8th
MVintheheartland
Featured Actor Joined: 11/19/13
#205Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:01pm
"ie: carousel is using a "gimmick" (oak's words) by casting a black man in the role of billy bigelow. That is the gimmick and selling point of the show. There is almost no other reason to cast a black man in this role than the gimmick and the selling of tix and Scott Rudin knows this. Josh Henry is incredibly talented, im not saying he isn't and will perform the hell out of this (probably), but the GIMMICK of him being black in a role that has ALWAYS been played by a white man will sell tix and as such ...GImmick. "
Gee, maybe I'm racist then, but I want to see Carousel because I think Josh Henry is awesome. Not because of gimmick casting. I have seen him in "Shuffle Along" and "Hamilton"(in Chicago), and I'm a big fan. I also think he's way hot.
MVintheheartland
#206Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:01pm
Speed said: "Oak is a human being and aprofessional actor himself. Deserves better than "narcissistic nobody." Andy Karl may be a Broadway veteranbut he was entrusted with TWO huge Broadway musicals (Rocky and Groundhog Day) and completely failed to turn either into a hit. Pierre isn't really a lead role like what Andy had in Rocky and GD. Shouldn't Andy be held to a higher standard? Maybe Andy is the "big old nobody" that should never be hired again. Also, it was always going to be hard for Oak to have Andy's "veteran" career because he is BLACK and there just aren't enough roles for him. Hamilton has given voice to a lot of actors who had never had the opportunity on Broadway because the roles didn't exist."
Speed are you that ridiculous? First of all the star of Rocky was the name of the show, Karl got great reviews and a Tony nomination but sadly the show only half worked. As for Groundhog Day, his reviewer again were brilliant AND he won the Olivier Award for Best Actor during the HIT UK run.
#207Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:17pm
I spoke to Cynthia and all she kept saying is 'I'm right' and oh Oak blocked me
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/22/14
#208Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:22pm
songanddanceman2 said: "I spoke to Cynthia and all she kept saying is 'I'm right' and oh Oak blocked me"
Is this a joke that I simply don't get?
#209Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:22pm
songanddanceman2 said: "I spoke to Cynthia and all she kept saying is 'I'm right' and oh Oak blocked me"
Yep. That's what Cynthia does.
#210Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:32pm
This thread has hilariously gone off the rails. At least we were provided with an all new Trumpety meaning for "very famous".
Andy Karl may be a Broadway veteranbut he was entrusted with TWO huge Broadway musicals (Rocky and Groundhog Day) and completely failed to turn either into a hit.
More new facts! The producers, creators, designers, director, marketing and PR teams have zero responsibility in the success of a Broadway musical. If a musical fails to recoup, the sole responsibility falls on the lead actor, irrespective of any critical acclaim for his performance in it. I really need to make a note of this. Just so we're clear, does this apply equally to female leads or are female actors simply disregarded?
PaulWom
Featured Actor Joined: 8/8/16
#211Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:43pm
http://deadline.com/2017/10/greys-anatomy-spinoff-grey-damon-okieriete-onaodowan-danielle-savre-barrett-doss-cast-shondaland-series-1202183494/
So he faces absolutely no consequences at all for his actions. Wonderful.
PaulWom
Featured Actor Joined: 8/8/16
#212Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:43pm
http://deadline.com/2017/10/greys-anatomy-spinoff-grey-damon-okieriete-onaodowan-danielle-savre-barrett-doss-cast-shondaland-series-1202183494/
So he faces absolutely no consequences at all for his actions. Wonderful.
#213Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:53pm
Nope. Karma is bull****. Good things happen to people who do bad things. Bad things happen to people who do good things. That's life.
#214Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:55pm
PaulWom said: "So he faces absolutely no consequences at all for his actions. Wonderful."
Well, he was thoroughly trashed on a message board? ![]()
Sunny11
Broadway Star Joined: 9/3/14
#215Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 2:59pm
Imagine if he returns to Broadway as a box office draw hot off his hit tv show.
10086Sundays
Broadway Star Joined: 5/5/17
#216Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 4:10pmUpdated On: 10/6/17 at 04:10 PM
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/22/14
#217Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 4:21pm
Sunny11 said: "Imagine if he returns to Broadway as a box office draw hot off his hit tv show."
I would actually find that highly amusing. I was totally wrong about him having nothing else to lose. That's show business folks.
#218Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 5:14pm
haterobics said: "Dave28282 said: "Why do I not see any interviews with Oak stating: "Roles must be nurtured.....no matter what color you are"?"
Because only you talk like that?"
Oak talks about nurturing all the time.
#219Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 5:19pm
PaulWom said: "http://deadline.com/2017/10/greys-anatomy-spinoff-grey-damon-okieriete-onaodowan-danielle-savre-barrett-doss-cast-shondaland-series-1202183494/
So he faces absolutely no consequences at all for his actions. Wonderful."
It's just like the racist transgender who was fired from L'oreal and is now hired by other racists from another brand. There will always be fellow fools on your side.
#220Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 5:28pm
Absolutely disgusting. Just like Oak.
Speed
Broadway Star Joined: 7/12/03
#221Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 8:55pm
rosscoe(au) said: "Well I have seen some very tragic posters on this board over the years,but speed takes the cake.. dude get some new meds"
A) I am bipolar.
B) How dare you make a joke about someone/anyone taking meds! Mental illness is no joke.
Speed
Broadway Star Joined: 7/12/03
#222Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 9:02pm
songanddanceman2 said: "Speed said: "Oak is a human being and aprofessional actor himself. Deserves better than "narcissistic nobody." Andy Karl may be a Broadway veteranbut he was entrusted with TWO huge Broadway musicals (Rocky and Groundhog Day) and completely failed to turn either into a hit. Pierre isn't really a lead role like what Andy had in Rocky and GD. Shouldn't Andy be held to a higher standard? Maybe Andy is the "big old nobody" that should never be hired again. Also, it was always going to be hard for Oak to have Andy's "veteran" career because he is BLACK and there just aren't enough roles for him. Hamilton has given voice to a lot of actors who had never had the opportunity on Broadway because the roles didn't exist."
Speed are you that ridiculous? First of all the star of Rocky was the name of the show, Karl got great reviews and a Tony nomination but sadly the show only half worked. As for Groundhog Day, his reviewer again were brilliant AND he won the Olivier Award for Best Actor during the HIT UK run."
I was responding to people saying Oak should be fired because he was the star and he wasn't selling tickets. So why doesn't that apply to Andy Karl? By all accounts, Karl is great to work with and yes, he has an award and nominations, but he didn't sell tickets! I'm not saying Karl should've been fired. I'm saying some of you are hypocrites who only think Oak should be fired for not selling ticket but not others.
#223Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 9:18pm
I'm not saying that they should have fired him. I'm saying that they have every right to, and I understand why they did.
Speed
Broadway Star Joined: 7/12/03
#224Oak Speaks out on great comet controversy
Posted: 10/6/17 at 9:31pm
Okay. Different people in this thread are saying different things.
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