RENT the movie: One Year Later? Your thoughts...
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:40pm
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:40pm
The mise is excellent and for Tango Maureen alone, it was worth it.
Im glad that it was preserved in such a good way. Something changed, but nothing to kill the spirit of the piece and Im very happy that it will be around for generations to come.
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:41pm
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:42pm
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:43pm
the message is a really strong one [but not as strong in the movie as in the show, IMO] that i feel needs to reach more people in our society today.
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:44pm
I don't. What happened?
Anyway, I didn't buy the hype before it was released, didn't care for it when it was released, and now, with a second viewing on DVD, I still think it's flawed but if anything, I don't dislike it as much as I did one year ago, perhaps because the rabid - and biased - board-"acclaim" seems so long ago.
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:45pm
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:54pm
I own the DVD, but honestly have sat through another two viewings of the movie, once when I received the DVD for a birthday present, and again with the parentals. I've gone back to watch all the commentaries and certain scenes over and over again...but that's about it.
Honestly, the reviews at the time were really mixed. Most of them were mediocre at most, a few glowing reviews that were quickly ate up by members of the board. As for being influenced with the Rapp factor...eh.
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:56pm
Can't wait to see how DREAMGIRLS works 'at home' next week.
Posted: 12/30/06 at 10:58pm
I agree with you 100%. It was not like the show in terms of tone at all, But I still respect it, and Chris Columbus had reasoning behind everything he did, and I respect his choices. I still, to this day, enjoy this movie.
Although, after I had gotten the DVD, I did realize the problems with it, although I have come to accept them because no movie is perfect.
It was awesome. - theaterkid1015
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:00pm
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:03pm
I watched the DVD when it first came out, and I liked it better, because I was over my initial dissapointment. When watching the DVD I was able to just accept the movie for what it is.
Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:05pm
At any rate, thank you Michael Bennett for starting this thread. I expect to hear a lot of interesting opinions and perspectives.
All in all, I like the film quite a bit less than I did a year ago. I have to give the movie credit for reinvigorating my admiration of Rent and musical theatre in general. In fact, I think it did this to an extent that I made me blind to a lot of the film's flaws upon my original viewing. I blame this partially on the fact that the one and only time I had seen Rent on stage prior to the film was with a very mediocre cast; the movie, complete with an obviously very strong cast, initially felt like a blessing. Now, having seen the stage show multiple times with a stronger cast, it's hard for me to accept the movie as something that captured the true essence of the show. Part of this is because it's nearly impossible to capture the true essence of Rent on film, and part of this is because, I believe, the film was decent in spite of Chris Columbus rather than aided by his presence as director. It's not even that he made this one cut or had rhyming dialogue in certain parts or the fact that Roger is on a cliff, and I think it's unfair to say that if they had kept April's suicide or Goodbye Love or whatever it may be in the film, it would have been amazing. Of course the addition of those scenes (among others) would have helped the film, but there's something somewhat indescribable that is on the stage at the Nederlander (when Rent is done the way it should be) that just was not captured in the movie.
I still feel the movie is good (not able to slap the "great" label on it anymore) and by no means bad, but I feel it's that way by virtue of the source material, not because the movie itself is good. In comparison to the stage show, I'm not sure a movie could ever be truly great. However, I still believe it could have been better, and Columbus failed on a lot of accounts.
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:17pm
Long story short: Last year I thought the film was mostly a disaster on a technical level. This year I'm no longer very fond of the source material, so I don't know that it's worth it to revisit the film in its entirety.
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Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:25pm
I think that the reason why Rapp stopped posting here was cus Sony set up an offical Rent blog for the movie and asked that he stop posting here so he can post there.
Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:28pm
One year later, is anything different?
Well, I bought the DVD the day it came out. It was months later. I'd spent those months falling in love with new shows, not necessarily new, but ones I hadn't known too much about before, mostly Sondheim shows. My taste in theatre seemed to have shifted dramatically.I'd fallen in love with much of the great films of the beginning of this year. I got the DVD, and watched it. REALLY watched it. I didn't sugarcoat it, loving it only because I love the music. I watched it not as a Broadway lover, but as a movie lover. Watching it for more of the acting, the shots, the authenticity. I realized that the movie wasn't as perfect as I thought it was. In fact, I was disappointed.
Since then, I haven't touched the DVD. I don't know why. I consider watching it, but never can. I've only watched it that one time. Maybe I'll revisit it in the near future, but I don't know. It's interesting to see how much I've grown in taste over the year. I still love the show, the music, the plot, yes. And the movie has that spot in my heart. But not the way it used to.
Posted: 12/30/06 at 11:35pm
Also, no, Anthony hasn't posted here in a while. He did again for a short period after his Sony-imposed hiatus was up and the blogging period ended, but he's not been around in quite some time.
Anyway, on to the topic at hand.
As many remember, I loved the film at the time. I didn't think it was flawless, but I let my love for it override the flaws. And, the truth is, that I think at the time, I needed to love it... after all of that.
But as time's gone by, the things I didn't love about the film have more strongly exposed themselves to me, and I'm sort of experiencing a lot of anger (for lack of a better term) and disappointment in retrospect. I still love the film because it's Rent and I love it for its big heart and what it is, but I regard it in many ways as a missed opportunity. I think when this movie was made, Columbus, et al. had to make a decision between remaining very faithful to the stage show and creating a film adaptation of Rent -- as opposed to a film version of Rent. I don't think Columbus used all at his disposal in the medium of film. The film, to me, was sort of our opportunity to see things about these character's stories that we don't see on stage. There are so many things I wanted to see. But now we never will. And in that sense, I think Columbus sort of blew it. I think the film's spirit came from the cast, and not at all from Columbus' direction. He didn't mutilate the piece, but he couldn't have been the ideal person to do this. He did an okay job, but I'll never stop thinking of what it could've been. I keep thinking of the earlier drafts, which were so much grittier and dirtier than the version we ultimately ended up with. I don't watch the DVD nearly as much as I thought I would. I pick it up every now and then for nostalgia's sake, really. I was fine with the Goodbye Love issue until I saw the scene and realized how gorgeous it was. Once I saw it, I was mad that it didn't get put into the film. There are so many things about it that I love, and I certainly don't dislike the movie on the whole -- I never could -- but in the past year, a lot of disappointment has set in, which is pretty sad.
At the risk of being typically defensive: that said, having admitted what I just did, please don't put words in my mouth and tell me that my feelings have changed because I've let go of something irrational, or assume that I only felt the way I did because of contact with Anthony on here, or that he brainwashed me or whatever. Yes, Anthony and I spoke about the movie, but I think it's unfair to assume that anyone who admits changed opinions over time does so because they were clouded at the time due to his presence and timely inability to think freely. Minds change in simpler ways; time changes them. Like I said, feel free to PM me if you're curious enough to want to know more, but that's as complex an explanation as I'm willing to post on the boards.
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