It's a total puff piece. A backdrop comes down with the name and logo of the charity and Cheno discusses the charity. It feels really hokey and shilly. I thought they were about pass buckets around the audience. It completely took me out of the show.
The diary piece was definitely cut. Jackie must not like it.
As far as the mention that Cheno's energy seems low on Broadway, it makes total sense. She's carrying this show on her back. That's gotta be exhausting. Also, she has to have some idea how poorly it is being received. She knows she's hurt her LGBTQ fans with the Kirk statement with Jackie coming to her defense. She may be over the whole experience and just wants it to end.
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I wonder what the weekly nut is? All in, including royalties and theater rent? My guess is a million like most new musicals these days. And how big a reserve they have?
As someone who enjoyed the show, I am extremely disappointed to hear about the diary bit being cut. That was a crucial moment in showing Jackie's true character.
Yeah, I am utterly disappointed it was cut. Ugh.
I love all the actors in the show, I love the director but the subject not to mention the real life people are so disgusting to me, I would not see this if you paid me to. If this succeeds, good for them, if this fails, good for us.
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Oh, interesting. They just removed it when I saw it then. I also saw it in Boston, so I noticed the omission. I remember I looked it up after I saw it in Boston and Victoria had supposedly given her mom permission to publish it. It was such a vile detail that I assumed they removed it because it was so so awful and not true. Saying she's continuing to build Versailles in Victoria's honor shows how misguided Jackie is but definitely doesn't pack the same punch.
Bettyboy72 said: "As far as the mention that Cheno's energy seems low on Broadway, it makes total sense. She's carrying this show on her back. That's gotta be exhausting. Also, she has to have some idea howpoorly it is being received. She knows she's hurt her LGBTQ fans with the Kirk statement with Jackie coming to her defense. She may be over the whole experience and just wants it to end."
It’s odd that I found this comment this morning, because someone at the stage door for LITTLE BEAR RIDGE ROAD last night said something vaguely similar about how Cheno appeared “over it” and may actually be.
Cannot speak to KC being over it or low energy, but I will say I am surprised she returned to the stage with an open-ended run. Maybe SRS will end up doing one or two scheduled performances each week, if the show runs long enough? Chenoweth struggles with the Broadway schedule, and with no concrete end date, well let’s just say her standby will get plenty of opportunities to perform.
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I saw it last night and I thought KC was in top form, not low energy or giving over it energy AT ALL. Having said that, I actually liked the show. I could care less about the woman this is based on, but appreciated the story and it very much is a cautionary tale. The end was giving me so much Sunsert BLVD vibes.
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Hey guys, apologies if this has been discussed, I just don’t have time to skim through the posts, but what has the running time landed on now that the show is frozen?
It's never ending. Every minute feels like 500 years. In reality? It's 2.5 hours on a good day.
I am completely floored that they removed the part about publishing the diary. I thought that was kind of the whole point of the show, that
Jackie, even after a tragedy that would have had many people take a step back and re-evaluate the priorities in their lives, is either unable or uninterested (or likely both) to perform that kind of self-reflection. The worst possible thing that could happen to a mother has happened, and she still makes it all about her.
I thought the staging of this scene was particularly effective, where Jonquil is trying to tell Jackie and David how terrible this is, and they act like she's not even talking. They are immediately dismissive. What she's saying doesn't register on them at all.
I think it's true that, after this scene, Jackie is irredeemable. And I imagine the real Jackie doesn't like that. But she didn't object until after Broadway previews had started?
The removal of the diary revelation without removing the scene that leads up to that makes no sense. It probably now appears that the charity is a good thing, that Jackie is doing good in the world.
If people are finding Chenoweth to be low-energy, this may be why. If I were her, I would be fuming that The Powers That Be have considerably undercut her performance by taking out one of the most significant moments in the show for her character, and it's also probably made the character significantly less interesting to play.
It's unbelievable to me that this would be removed midway through previews. This reduces my confidence in the creative team significantly.
mikem said: "I am completely floored that they removed the part about publishing the diary. I thought that was kind of the whole point of the show, that
The removal of the diary revelation without removing the scene that leads up to that makes no sense. It probably now appears that the charity is a good thing, that Jackie is doing good in the world.
If people are finding Chenoweth to be low-energy, this may be why. If I were her, I would be fuming that The Powers That Be have considerably undercut her performance by taking out one of the most significant moments in the show for her character, and it's also probably made the character significantly less interesting to play.
It's unbelievable to me that this would be removed midway through previews. Thisreduces my confidence in the creative team significantly."
Agreed. They also cut the end of that scene where Jackie and David rush to the dance floor to celebrate.
I never cared for the Book of Random song but now I'm REALLY at a loss as to why it's still in the show.
They've replaced the diary-selling scene with Jackie and David pledging to finish Versailles in Victoria's memory because "she would want them to" or something like that which definitely telecasts how out of touch and selfish Jackie is, but it's nowhere near the gut punch of revealing the published diary.
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I gotta be honest, I kept seeing the comments on here and I thought, they're exaggerating. There's no way a musical with this pedigree of people involved is that bad.
It's that bad. A mostly tuneless score, and an atrocious book. I thought it would never end. Truly, towards the end, I started to think, am I going to die in this theater? Not only is it just plain tone deaf in today's world, but it is boring and lifeless and schlocky. That cowboy number just left me dumbfounded.
i've seen a LOT of terrible shows. At least It's My Life was fun. This was just awful. Lost a lot of respect for all involved, except Nina, the only saving grace.
So little specificity about the score. Is it really so flat out unmemorable? It’s what inspired me to buy TDF, the chance to hear Chenoweth sing a new Schwartz. The I Want we’ve all heard - “Doatsy Meadowlark” I called it - has cringe lyrics but the composer’s signature melodic texture. What’s it comparable to?
What's worse, "Opening Night" or "Queen of Versailles"?
Oh, just do a little searching on YouTube. A handful of live recordings of songs from its Boston tryout are on there. Not gonna post those links here.
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They must have cut quite a bit- show ended at 4:34 and they easily could have shaved off another 10 minutes.
Nina White steals the show.
Auggie27 said: "So little specificity about the score. Is it really so flat out unmemorable? It’s what inspired me to buy TDF, the chance to hear Chenoweth sing a new Schwartz. The I Want we’ve all heard - “Doatsy Meadowlark”I called it - has cringe lyrics but the composer’s signature melodic texture. What’s it comparable to?"
I liked the score in Boston overall (to be fair I've grown familiar with it thanks to a, *ahem* recording.) Is it Schwartz at his best? No (out of his various work post Wicked it doesn't hold a candle to his gorgeous score for the Vienna musical Schikaneder which, yes, I keep on bringing up at every chance I can.) But what composer approaching 80 is at their peak form (including the work Sondheim wrote after he turned 70.) Still, I think it's a very cohesive score and to my ears was a breath of fresh air to hear a well constructed traditional score that held together as a whole, with lyrics that (wow!) actually advance characterization unlike so many of the recent more pop style scores we get here (and this is often Schwartz in his pop mode.) I do think some of his attempts to sound modern with various references are maybe a bit cringe, but that also feels fitting (my one complaint with Caviar Dreams is the use of "toddle" for toddler and an easy rhyme--but that's also the kind of rhyme I've come to expect with Schwartz over the years.)
Auggie they've released a second song if you haven't heard it yet, Pretty Wins sung by the great Nina White.
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gleek4114 said: "How has Rush been? Trying for this Saturday matinee."
Not as busy as the rush towards the exit at intermission.
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