The Last Ship Lasting
#150The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/20/14 at 12:51pmI've been told that they are indeed doing one of the large group numbers at the parade. I found the material with the guys at the shipyard the most interesting, and I'm surprised they haven't been trying to use that to sell the show more.
#151The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/20/14 at 1:46pm
Since Hairspray, the following musicals flopped there
Ragtime - Revival
Catch Me If You Can
Scandalous
Big Fish
Last Ship
In earlier years
Into The Light
Senator Joe
Superman
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#152The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/20/14 at 1:51pm
So they're probably doing We've Got Now't Else at the parade. I think they made great choices showcasing Rachel on Jimmy Fallon and When We Dance on the morning shows. People here were complaining they were tired of the stomping men from the commercial, and now everyone is wondering why they haven't been doing that number more?
Updated On: 11/20/14 at 01:51 PM
#153The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/20/14 at 2:07pmSo, if those other shows had gone into other theaters, they would have become long-running hits? I saw a few of those, and they would have flopped in any house.
#154The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/21/14 at 11:19am
It is on TDF for a ton of dates including every day during Thanksgiving week. If they cannot sell during this week forget it.
Looks like this is headed to Davy Jones locker. Oh well. We saw it and liked it. Sorry for the cast and crew but that is the cruel world of Broadway
#155The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/21/14 at 11:21am
"Sorry for the cast and crew but that is the cruel world of Broadway."
aka capitalism, aka nothing unique to Broadway.
massofmen
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
#156The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/23/14 at 10:50pm
huh i think i said this about 3 weeks ago..someone told me i had no idea what I was talking about.
Hogans...how is it going?
"The production has been reportedly losing $75,000 a week since performances began on Sept. 29. According to the Times, it needs to gross at least $625,000 a week to break even and to sustain a Broadway run."
Updated On: 11/23/14 at 10:50 PM
#157The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/23/14 at 10:59pm
Sting coming in for a few weeks is a band aid at best. I applaud him for fighting for his show but the show tanks again after he leaves. This leaves about 2 1/2 months before business MIGHT pick up. The Christmas holidays do not appear to be helping the box office Too little to late
If he played in it for the the 3 months of dead time, it might make a difference. Sadly this will only prolong the agony
BroadwayBen
Broadway Star Joined: 6/5/03
#158The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/23/14 at 11:01pmMaybe they will get another pop star to replace Sting in January. Sting has the connections to find one.
#159The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/23/14 at 11:09pm
Never thought of that.
Should be interesting who might follow him. Sting's role is a small one so not much rehearsal needed.
#160The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/23/14 at 11:38pm
Not sure I would call Jackie a small role. According to the NYTimes, he is in 40 percent of the show. He does a lot of singing.
I hope this stunt works out for the show and they can somehow make it to the Tonys in June, but it's a crapshoot.
In spite of its flaws, this show is just too good for the kinds of audiences that now fill B'way theaters. IMHO so you can keep your outrage in check
#161The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/23/14 at 11:53pmNail was terrible in the role. He like did this weird speak sing stuff. So I'd be curious to hear Sting do it. I don't think it's going to help a ton though.
#162The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 12:00am
To Jay
No rage. Just made a statement. If it works fine . If not, so be it.
#163The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 12:12am
"In spite of its flaws, this show is just too good for the kinds of audiences that now fill B'way theaters. IMHO"
Can't you just praise a show without denigrating people with higher standards than you?
I'm curious why they can muck about with the casting and try to get audiences in there, but they never say, hey, Logan, why not try and fix that book up a bit? Why does that become a sacred document on opening night?
#164The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 12:58am
"In spite of its flaws, this show is just too good for the kinds of audiences that now fill B'way theaters."
And the audiences know it too! In fact this was overheard at the TKTS booth: "Sorry but we have nothing left for CABARET. Have you considered THE LAST SHIP?" "We did and it looks amazing, so amazing in fact that we're not feeling worthy of having the opportunity to witness such a magnificent piece of theater so we'd better see something else".
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#165The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 1:01am
And I could have told you, Sting show,
This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you….
#166The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 4:14amIt's just the time of the year, I reckon, Hopefully people will go during Christmas time.
#167The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 8:25amIt's not really a family show nor one I can imagine the tourists will flock to. This may help in the short term but I'm not convinced it's a long term solution.
#168The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 8:33am
Mass, what you said (and you had no idea what you were talking about) was that the show would close Jan 10.
Then you said that was a joke when I and others called you on it.
Then you said it would close in January unless Sting "threw 100k at it."
I said I didn't think that would solve the problem but that adding Sting to the cast would.
So yes, you had no idea what you were talking about.
I am doing well. Thanks for asking.
Updated On: 11/24/14 at 08:33 AM
#169The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 8:45am
Ah the book, the book , the book. Yes, the book to Mamma Mia is perfectly intelligent, the book for Phantom of the Opera and Wicked make total sense, Disney books are the epitome of brilliant librettos, the books for Beautiful and Rock of Ages deserved Pulitzer Prizes, the book for Once and Book of Mormon are the pantheon of tightly constructed librettos and let's not forget Kinky Boots' and Newsies' books, so rock solid and non-manipulative. FAR FROM PERFECT books have been a part of musicals that have run for years and years.
A composer (twice nominated for a Tony Award and the recipient of Drama Desk Award and a Gold Record) once told me that book writers are always criticized first and most harshly because every "critic" can read and write and, therefore, he feels he knows something about actual libretto writing (which is hogwash). Composers, he said, can often escape the contempt of "critics" because most people know nothing about musical composition and only know what sounds pleasant to them.
While I enjoyed a couple of the shows I cite above, NONE of them can lay claim to a libretto that ranks with the best of the Golden Age (and even some of Hammerstein's and George Abbott's books can be taken to task if we really get down to it.)
Yes, Logan's book has holes and stretches credibility (Emil De Becque proposes before he even tells Nellie about his children?), but come on. It is no worse than any libretto mentioned above. However, what it has is Sting's score, one of the best currently heard on B'way. Had this show starred Hugh Jackman tickets would be impossible. Oh, yes, let's not forget that smash, The Boy From Oz! A paint by numbers butt numbing libretto.)
martianman2
Swing Joined: 3/29/14
#170The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 9:01amIs this called rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic. The producers have also blamed a wrong marketing strategy of focusing on shipbuilding rather than a love story. Surely making a video that looked like a beer advert rather than clips form the actual show was questionable. I would question some of the marketing decisions for the show since the tryout.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#171The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 9:43am
Jeffrey Seller is very candid in the interview with Healy which I highly recommend. He's clear he wants to make it to the Tonys.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/theater/sting-to-join-the-cast-of-his-broadway-musical.html?ref=arts&_r=0
#172The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 9:54amI want a lot of things, but that doesn't mean they're going to happen. Let's wait and see...there are more shows coming in the spring. It's a tough sell. The show as a whole is just rough (it could've used another tryout with serious changes).
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#173The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 10:09amWell of course, but Seller is the one who has to pull the plug. That's what I'm saying. He has more faith in it than most people and he has to make the decision.
#174The Last Ship Lasting
Posted: 11/24/14 at 10:21amWell Disney may want that theater for Hunchback in the fall (they usually use Nederlander). There is also a clause probably where they can be forced out.
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