The Search for the Next Elle Woods: The Spoiler thread — Page 43

Thes are great! I searched before under Bailey's name but nothing came up. I love these pics.

I'm happy that Autumn and Lauren get the chance to understudy Elle. I hope ot catch Lauren in Los Angeles!

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"I spy with my little eye Christian finally with a contestant"

Ok, now I'm offically jealous. Awww Bailey looks cute in her bunny suit. It's just too bad she has to wear a wig, because her hair is so much prettier.

I thought he did have a job with Callahan's firm.

guys i have a question, i'm seeing it tomorrow and i've never seen a broadway show and i was wondering...we got really bad seats to save money and i was wondering that if there were any blank seats tomorrow that maybe after the doors closed would i be allowed to move my seat?????? it would mean a lot if i were able to because my mom has really bad arthritis and needs knee replacements.

jenna: Yes, I could write a book on how the LB musical screws up Elle and Emmett's relationship by trying to improve upon it. Everytime I listen to the OBCR I notice more and more problems.

Emmett is a TA for Callahan's class, which makes no sense because he already graduated. TAing is usually just a way people get financial aid; Emmett is past the point of financial aid because he's no longer in school. And apparently he isn't an associate at Callahan's firm yet, so he doesn't technically have a job aside from being Callahan's lapdog and keeping an eye on the interns. And a supposedly-brilliant Harvard Law grad should really be able to get a better job.

It's straaange. I think they should have either kept him an associate like in the movie, or split his character into two and had the love interest Emmett as a second or third year law student and then a licensed lawyer who was supportive of Elle but not a romantic interest, who could supervise her during the trial.

Oh, and she would have do things on her own, too. None of Emmett holding her hand. You can develop the relationship in other ways than him tying her down and making her study... and other than her trying to make him into Warner (seriously, listen to her response to "I look like Warner" in "Take It Like a Man"... disturbing! Why would Hach even think that including that line was a good idea?? Oh, wait, because she's a terrible writer.)

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Updated On: 7/22/08 at 04:24 PM

Wow, I'm glad to see I'm not alone in disliking what Hach did with the Emmett/Elle relationship. I hadn't heard anyone criticize it from these angles before, but I agree with both of you 100 percent. Elle's line in "Find My Way" about no one holding her hand has always made me laugh because it's just not true in the musical!

Oh God, I could talk about this for ages. It's great that there are other people out there who also feel that way! That line always made me laugh, too. I also remember a comment I once read here that Emmett probably only tells Elle that she'll be in the bottom percent of her class just so she'll stick around for Thanksgiving and he won't be lonely. Soooo funny.

I am not only a huge fan of the movie, I am also a huge fan of Emmett, in both the first and second movies. Hach's statement that he wasn't in the movie enough and didn't do anything to win Elle other than "drive a car" is ridiculous and demonstrates even further her lack of understanding of their relationship, the characters, and the movie itself. It was supposed to be subtle and happen later, after Elle's found her way, or else she would have just relied on a man once more, which is exactly what happens in the musical.

I really want to know why she changed his last name, too. is it because "Richmond" has "rich" in it? Honestly, I wouldn't throw out that explanation; Hach is just that insipid.

Don't get me started either on the decision to make Emmett poor. It didn't contribute that much to the character and all it did was make it seem like a smart, accomplished guy couldn't see any potential in Elle unless he was a misfit just like her. Also, it just made it seem like he wanted to be a lawyer so he could get out of the slums and become rich. Couldn't there have been one person at that school who tried to do well in law school for the sake of law itself, and not just money/ambition/etc? Don't get me wrong, having Elle fall in love with a slightly nerdy, not-so-rich guy might have been a good decision if handled better, but it wasn't.

There's also the question of timeline. We don't know when Emmett and Elle get together in the musical. Is it after the trial? Is it later? Are they even together when she proposes to him?

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Updated On: 7/22/08 at 05:01 PM

I agree with some of the points you are making about Emmett and Elle, but she did win the trial on her own. The only thing Emmett did was supervise, which didn't really involve anything. I thought the big moment was Elle winning the trial?

Didn't LBB and Borle make some changes with their characters to further develop the relationship? I have read that in several interviews with her.

Updated On: 7/22/08 at 05:45 PM

nevermind...i got it to work.

austengirl: But that's the only thing she does on her own in the show, and it only comes from her knowledge of haircare. In the movie it's the same case, but by then she's already shown her intelligence and dedication, so it's just cute.

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I agree that Elle does win the trial on her own, but it due to the knowledge of fashion and hair, not true legal knowledge. In the film, she had a few moments to truly build to this. One them was what I mentioned previously - her using law to talk about common law marriage with Paulette's ex to give Paulette the confidence to get her dog back. On stage, Emmett tags along and provides this information to Elle instead of her coming up with it on her own. Little things like this are baby steps towards Elle's self confidence in her own intelligence.

Hach also defined Warner differently. Not that I am complaining too much about the portrayal, but I thought he was more of an ass in the film. And don't get me started on how Vivienne's love of Elle comes so completely out of left-field that, had I not seen the film, would have made me think I missed a scene or something..

Adamgreer: you make some great points about Elle being believable and not a complete ditz. Hach does make it hard and that is why I was rooting for Lauren and then Autumn; I thought both were offer a different take that may make Elle's character truly genuine.

Updated On: 7/22/08 at 06:10 PM