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The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
#50The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 12:30pm
CurtainsUpat8 said: "It's not "loosely based in Sweden" Jackass. It IS in Sweden.
I don't believe in blind casting. I cast to serve the piece. I wouldn't cast a person of color as Desiree anymore than I would cast a whilte person as Effie in DreamGirls.
Blind Casting exists to capitulate to actors who complain they aren't able to play a role. It doesn't serve the play, it serves the ego of actors.
Write more plays for people of Color. Purpose was fantastic! Don't try to take a white experience and turn it into a black experience, and the opposite as well.
A white version of Dreamgirls is as absurd and a black version of A Little Night Music.
That is my opinion. It doesn't make me racist and I refuse to be labled as such for what I believe in. It's YOU that is racist.
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You're annoying. One of Sondheim's final wishes was to see Audra as Desiree. So...
Did it bother you that Trevor Nunn cast many American actors using quasi-British accents for a musical set in Sweden?? They were all white, so you probably weren't bothered.
#51The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 12:32pm
In shows like Pacific Overtures, In the Heights, The Color Purple, and Dreamgirls, race is a part of the story. It is part of the literal plot. Get it?
In Bergman’s Smiles of a Summer Night and A Little Night Music, no references to Sweden are made. Bergman himself just happened to be Swedish. The race, nationality, and ethnicity of those characters have nothing to do with the story. Martians could play these roles.
Hope this helps!
spicemonkey
Broadway Star Joined: 6/3/18
#52The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 12:34pm
CurtainsUpat8 said: "A Little Night Music takes place in Scandanvia. Does that fact mean anything to anyone?"
How pathetic your comment is
#53The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 12:56pm
Yes, and it Hamilton was specifically written to be cast the way it was, and it works. Now, take Hamilton and cast it with White people and it would be awful. The original intent of the author matters. We are all in theatre to serve the words and the play.
#54The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 12:59pmUpdated On: 6/15/25 at 12:59 PM
#55The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 1:16pm
You don't understand what theatre is about at all. What a silly thing to write. It takes place in Sweden. You can twist yourself into a pretzel to prove otherwise, but it sounds really dumb.
Write more plays for people of color. That is the answer. Explore the black experience in new ways!
Gypsy is miscast. Mama Rose would have had a ENTIRELY different experience if she was black woman in Vaudeville with a black daughter and a white partner. THAT is just fact. And to deny the REAL experience black entertainers had during that era is going the opposite of what you want. Write a show about what the REAL experience a black woman would have under the circumstances of the era. It's not Gypsy.
Again, none of this casting serves the play... it serves the egos of actors and directors. Gypsy is a show about White people. Dreamgirls is a show about the experiences of Black people. Pacific Overtures is a musical about the experiences of Asian people. A Little Night Music is about the experiences of Swedish people. Cabaret is a show about the experiences of German people. Each of these shows were created SPECIFICALLY for these circumstances.
#56The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 1:30pm
One aspect of Sondheim's brilliance was his willingness to let people try new approaches to his work- it seemed like he was willing to sign off on any experiment, just to see if it actually worked. I don't know if it was his conscious goal, but it kept his work alive and even managed to eventually return his flops to relevance (and in the case of Merrily, into an actual hit and bonafide part of the canon). Andrew Lloyd Webber has seemingly come around to this way of thinking, as well.
Your rigid, narrow-minded originalism is the total opposite- demanding that shows be encased in amber and dooming them to be museum pieces.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#57The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 1:36pm
Kad said: "One aspect of Sondheim's brilliance was his willingness to let people try new approaches to his work- it seemed like he was willing to sign off on any experiment, just to see if it actually worked. I don't know if it was his conscious goal, but it kept his work alive and even managed to eventually return his flops to relevance (and in the case of Merrily, into an actual hit and bonafide part of the canon). Andrew Lloyd Webber has seemingly come around to this way of thinking, as well.
Your rigid, narrow-minded originalism is the total opposite- demanding that shows be encased in amber and dooming them to be museum pieces."
This! All of this.
#58The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 1:43pm
CurtainsUpat8 said: "A Little Night Music is about the experiences of Swedish people.”
And Glynis Johns was English.
Darren Criss isn’t a robot.
John Cameron Mitchell, to my knowledge, has not had the majority of his penis removed.
You're just an idiot.
#59The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 1:44pm
Swedish people really do find themselves in some wacky romantic entanglements, though. Very unique to the culture.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
MB124
Understudy Joined: 8/19/22
#61The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 2:15pm
This imaginary production should be site-specific, at an IKEA. Otherwise, I don’t want it.
Updated On: 6/15/25 at 02:15 PM#62The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 2:17pm
MB124 said: "This imaginary production should be site-specific, at an IKEA. Otherwise, I don’t want it."
Every audience member will be given an allen wrench and illustration-only instruction booklet and they will help build the Armfeldt family manse.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Bwaygurl2
Leading Actor Joined: 3/8/22
#63The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 2:17pm
Kad said: "Swedish people really do find themselves in some wacky romantic entanglements, though. Very unique to the culture."
(Swedish) women be swappin'(romantic partners).
#64The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/15/25 at 2:59pm
ABBA should rewrite the score.
dinabobbiemanke
Swing Joined: 10/24/22
#65The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 1:57amUpdated On: 6/16/25 at 01:57 AM
dinabobbiemanke
Swing Joined: 10/24/22
#66The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 1:59am
CurtainsUpat8 said: "You don't understand what theatre is about at all. What a silly thing to write. It takes place in Sweden. You can twist yourself into a pretzel to prove otherwise, but it sounds really dumb.
Write more plays for people of color. That is the answer. Explore the black experience in new ways!
Gypsy is miscast. Mama Rose would have had a ENTIRELY different experience if she was black woman in Vaudeville with a black daughter and a white partner. THAT is just fact. And to deny the REAL experience black entertainers had during that era is going the opposite of what you want. Write a show about what the REAL experience a black woman would have under the circumstances of the era. It's not Gypsy.
Again, none of this casting serves the play... it serves the egos of actors and directors. Gypsy is a show about White people. Dreamgirls is a show about the experiences of Black people. Pacific Overtures is a musical about the experiences of Asian people. A Little Night Music is about the experiences of Swedish people. Cabaret is a show about the experiences of German people. Each of these shows were created SPECIFICALLY for these circumstances.
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Buddy, Black people exist in Sweden. They've literally been there since the 17th Century. Audra could be Swedish. There is also a Filipino community in Sweden, so Nicole could be Swedish too. Just FYI.
#67The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 2:57am
Puke emoji if there is one that works here
#68The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 9:32am
RACE IS A PART OF EVERYONE'S EXPERIENCE! It molds every aspect of who we are.
BWAY Baby2
Broadway Star Joined: 11/10/14
#69The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 10:43am
According to recent news reports, Nicole Scherzinger is in early talks for a residency in Las Vegas
. While the specific venue is not yet confirmed, some sources suggest discussions are taking place with Caesars Palace.
These reports indicate that Scherzinger, fresh off a Tony win for her role in "Sunset Boulevard," is considering a Las Vegas residency as the next step in her career. She is reportedly inspired by other artists who have had successful residencies in Las Vegas, such as Celine Dion.
verywellthensigh
Broadway Star Joined: 6/14/22
#70The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 2:45pm
Get Kristin Scott Thomas some singing lessons and let the rest resolve itself.
#71The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 2:51pm
BWAY Baby2 said: "According to recent news reports, Nicole Scherzinger is in early talks for a residency in Las Vegas
. While the specific venue is not yet confirmed, some sources suggest discussions are taking place with Caesars Palace.
These reports indicate that Scherzinger, fresh off a Tony win for her role in "Sunset Boulevard," is considering a Las Vegas residency as the next step in her career. She is reportedly inspired by other artists who have had successful residencies in Las Vegas, such as Celine Dion.”
But she’s not FROM Vegas! How DARE she?
pmensky
Broadway Star Joined: 7/18/11
#72The next Desiree should be Nicole Scherzinger
Posted: 6/16/25 at 3:10pm
verywellthensigh said: "Get Kristin Scott Thomas some singing lessons and let the rest resolve itself."
She would make an amazing Madame Armfeldt, especially to Cate Blanchett’s Desiree. And no, she’s not too young. I saw Sian Philips play Madame Armfeldt when she was 63, and Judi Dench was playing her daughter at 61.
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